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#401 Posted : 08 January 2013 15:17:36(UTC)
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I'm really enjoying Lost Sirens. There are some songs on this release that are preferable to what was released on WFTSC.

That said, I came into this release willing to listen to the songs on their own merit versus what I thought they should be.
To paraphrase someone else on here- Barney is definitely on top of his vocal game.
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Edward wrote:
I'm really enjoying Lost Sirens. There are some songs on this release that are preferable to what was released on WFTSC.

That said, I came into this release willing to listen to the songs on their own merit versus what I thought they should be.
To paraphrase someone else on here- Barney is definitely on top of his vocal game.


I agree.
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#403 Posted : 08 January 2013 15:41:22(UTC)
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This version of ITYS is very reminiscent of Velvet Underground's I'm Set Free, and I like it a lot!


Surely you mean 'All Tomorrow's Parties'?


Of course, thanks for correcting.
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#404 Posted : 08 January 2013 21:55:08(UTC)
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"Something ain't right, I've got a feeling. Don't ask me why..."

Loving the songs. Wished these songs have been released prior to the US tour. Would have told Barney how I feel!
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#405 Posted : 09 January 2013 00:46:34(UTC)
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'Turn' and 'Waiting for the Sirens' Call' really fit the mood of Lost Sirens. As a bridge between the two records, they should have included an alternative version (not a remix) of 'Waiting for the Sirens' Call', rather than the tedious 'I Told You So', which is completely off the mark here, sound wise.
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#406 Posted : 09 January 2013 04:05:25(UTC)
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For those that are interested, Lost Sirens credits:

Written by Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Phil Cunningham.
Recorded at Real World Studios.
Mastering by Frank Arkwright.
Art Direction & Design by Studio Parris Wakefield.

I'll Stay With You - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Sugarcane - Produced by New Order & Tore Johansson, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend
Recoil - Contains elements from "Seventh Seal" (by Noel Scott Engel), Produced & Mixed By New Order & Jim Spencer
Californian Grass - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Hellbent - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Shake It Up - Produced by New Order & Mac Quayle, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend
I've Got A Feeling - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
I Told You So (Crazy World Mix) - Produced by New Order & Stuart Price, Mixed by New Order & Jim Spencer

Cat number of the LP/CD combo is 2564662715

The track from which Recoil samples is from this (Noel Scott Engel = Scott Walker):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_4


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#407 Posted : 09 January 2013 06:15:12(UTC)
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i like it.
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#408 Posted : 09 January 2013 07:26:22(UTC)
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markreed wrote:
I've listened to it several times today and it is ... underwhelming as is. poorly sequenced, and not helped by the abundance of mid-paced songs in the middle that make the album drag. I spliced in some of the Control tracks and padded out to 11 songs/43m.41s.

1. Hypnosis (edited speech at beginning/end)
2. I'll Stay With You
3. Shake It Up
4. I've Got A Feeling
5. Hellbent
6. Get Out (edited shouting at beginning)
7. Californian Grass
8. Recoil
9. Sugarcane
10. I Told You So
11. Exit

Some of the mixes seem a little unfinished and the song titles are a little obvious - I'd say 95% done - but perhaps occasionally a bar or two too long and / or fading instead of a proper finish, and probably the least satisfactory LP-length product since the Factus 8 1981-82 EP, but still, worth our time and attentiona nd I am glad it is finally out.


Nice, I should do this also
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#409 Posted : 09 January 2013 07:48:07(UTC)
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Sugarcane and Shake It Up are the weakest tracks for me. Sugarcane is just mundane and workaday, nothing lifts it up above the everyday. Shake It Up is in the same league as Rock The Shack - just a brainless moronic ditty.

I've Got A Feeling was initially my least favourite track but now it's the 2nd strongest for me after Californian Grass. Can well imagine it going down well live, actually.
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#410 Posted : 09 January 2013 11:41:14(UTC)
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I guess these are my Best Sirens:

1. Who's Joe (perfect intro song, really)
2. Waiting For The Sirens' Call
3. Sugarcane
4. I'll Stay With You
5. Morning Night And Day
6. Hey Now What You Doing (with another name)
7. Californian Grass
8. Hellbent
9. I've Got A Feeling
10. Krafty
11. Turn
(Bonus)12. Jetstream (Arthur Baker Remix)

Now that's a fine record, isn't it? Big Grin

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ROCKET MICK on 09/01/2013(UTC)
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#411 Posted : 09 January 2013 13:10:44(UTC)
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Jim wrote:
I don't get the Turn my way hate? Must be a regional thing. I think most North Americans like the song as everywhere else hates it. As for Lost Sirens, I'll stay with you is a instant NO classic. Some people may not like the lyrics to Sugarcane, but I's a great song. And I've got a feeling is the biggest surprise for me on how much I love it. The rest could be up to debate.


Not much bass on Sugarcane either

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hunkydo wrote:
Hey, wake up !


Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :)
Very disappointing isn't it ?

These would have been lost for good.

Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work.
It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.

Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???


Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay.
Shame on the management, the label and the band.




NCAT is a lot better than Lost Sirens IMO; NCAT was 80% great; Lost is about 60% great.
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#413 Posted : 09 January 2013 14:31:01(UTC)
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bloodynora wrote:
i like it.


Me too, I can't think of anything negative to say about it..
I am just enjoying some new songs by my favourite band..Tongue
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#414 Posted : 09 January 2013 14:50:02(UTC)
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Listened to it twice and I like it, though I had pretty low expectations. 'Recoil' is the weakest for me as I can't remember a damn thing about it other then it's mellow.

Quite a few more 'hey you! get yer act together!'-type songs which personally I like.

Also agree that a lot of these songs are better then some tracks on WFTSC. It just hit me that album came out eight freaking years ago! Eek
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#415 Posted : 09 January 2013 14:51:38(UTC)
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Is this also the first NO album Peter Saville wasn't involved with? He's no longer with Studio Parris Wakefield (I dont think)
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#416 Posted : 09 January 2013 17:35:05(UTC)
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Good point- No Saville art :(

And> Shouldn't the release be news on the homepage? Obviously we all know about it, but your casual visitor could remain oblivious and it would be good to do our bit to spread the message to the casual types?
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Volturno wrote:
I guess these are my Best Sirens:

1. Who's Joe (perfect intro song, really)
2. Waiting For The Sirens' Call
3. Sugarcane
4. I'll Stay With You
5. Morning Night And Day
6. Hey Now What You Doing (with another name)
7. Californian Grass
8. Hellbent
9. I've Got A Feeling
10. Krafty
11. Turn
(Bonus)12. Jetstream (Arthur Baker Remix)

Now that's a fine record, isn't it? Big Grin



Re: 6. It was originally titled Road to Ruin.
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#418 Posted : 11 January 2013 10:11:08(UTC)
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#420 Posted : 11 January 2013 10:56:07(UTC)
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My LostSirens top 5 so far:

1. Sugarcane
2. Californian Grass
3. -
4. -
5. -
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#421 Posted : 11 January 2013 11:26:03(UTC)
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The Seventh Seal reference is interesting as it's one of Bergman's most famous films - like Cries And Whispers, sound familar? As a Bergman bore I'd be interested to know if the band are into his work. Personally I doubt it as I once read they used to take film names ad hoc e.g. Thieves Like Us... But if Bergman were still alive and got New Order to soundtrack a film of Melanie C naked I'd be rather happy. Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to hearing these songs. Glad to hear they're close to Turn and WFTSC as these are my fave original tracks along with Who's Joe. From these comments I get the impression they used the more radio-friendly songs for WFTSC...?
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Nick King wrote:

I'll Stay With You - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Sugarcane - Produced by New Order & Tore Johansson, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend
Recoil - Contains elements from "Seventh Seal" (by Noel Scott Engel), Produced & Mixed By New Order & Jim Spencer
Californian Grass - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Hellbent - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Shake It Up - Produced by New Order & Mac Quayle, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend
I've Got A Feeling - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
I Told You So (Crazy World Mix) - Produced by New Order & Stuart Price, Mixed by New Order & Jim Spencer


I'm surprised that Brian Higgins/Xenomania don't get one single mention. Were those tracks scrapped, or are some of the above (or tracks on WFTSC) re-recordings of them?
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#423 Posted : 11 January 2013 15:59:08(UTC)
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indiearchivist wrote:
Nick King wrote:

I'll Stay With You - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Sugarcane - Produced by New Order & Tore Johansson, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend
Recoil - Contains elements from "Seventh Seal" (by Noel Scott Engel), Produced & Mixed By New Order & Jim Spencer
Californian Grass - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Hellbent - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
Shake It Up - Produced by New Order & Mac Quayle, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend
I've Got A Feeling - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend
I Told You So (Crazy World Mix) - Produced by New Order & Stuart Price, Mixed by New Order & Jim Spencer


I'm surprised that Brian Higgins/Xenomania don't get one single mention. Were those tracks scrapped, or are some of the above (or tracks on WFTSC) re-recordings of them?

Was thinking the same thing. Someone mentioned Yes by PSB which I'm sure that Higgins/Xenomania produced and certainly had some writing credits (good album I thought, much better than the latest which I found just dull.) I assumed Sugarcane was from the same stable listening to it but clearly not.
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indiearchivist wrote:


I'm surprised that Brian Higgins/Xenomania don't get one single mention. Were those tracks scrapped, or are some of the above (or tracks on WFTSC) re-recordings of them?


When i first heard Sugarcane I figured its ultra poppy production must have involved Higgins. I thought it might be a bit of irony if a song about fame-hungry celebs was produced by Girls Aloud's producer. But no. However, our Mr Monkhouse may like to know that Swedish producer Tore Johansson who did work on the track has also worked with...Melanie C.
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Two posts within a minute about the same Sugarcane presumption. Spooky.

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