Just found myself looking through the Discogs release page for 60MPH.
Stumbled on the Hong Kong (!) release, then a uk promo CDr and then a 2x12" of Someone Like You. I realised I have somehow gone through life without hearing the Gabriel & Dresden mixes of SLY. I guess I've missed out on the Futureshock strip down mix too.

So one of G&D's mixes is on youtube (below), but the "Gabriel + Dresden Voco-tech Dub" is nowhere to be found. Is this the mix that would have changed my life?




Ah, heres the Futureshock strip down mix.

Yeah i recall getting my hands on the CD of those Advent mixes of EGG took forever.Sent off for the CD somewhere and waited ages for it to drop through the letterbox.Lived at my mum's at the time and got home from work one day and a courier card was on the doormat saying they had tried to deliver something.I thought it had to be the Advent CD and drove 12 miles to the depot to pick it up only to find it was a parcel for my mum.


Managed to grab the 2 x 12" (or 3 x 12" really as the release with the red cover has 2 x 12" )Someone Like You mixes in late 2001 when they were released.Have all but 2 of the (6) mixes digitally also.I don't appear to have the Gabriel & Dresden Voco-Tech Dub and the Futureshock Strip Down mix on anything other than the 12" .Can do a vinyl rip and Mediafire share of the G&B Voco-Tech Dub if yer interested, send PM.The Voco-Tech Dub is kind of slower than their 911 Vocal Mix.It's pretty good, won't change yer life but worth a listen.Nice chunky beat and a vocodered voice repeating "Someone-one-one-one-one..." etc over and over.

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Yes DR you’re right about GR polarising opinion I love turn my way! One of my favourites on GR. Billy Corgan is not required on the record though and would be even better with a Zbernatd only vocal. 4 stars for me.

I think JD rather than NO. I recall an interview where Corgan said one of the first bands he was in was basically a JD cover band. It was how he learned to to be in a band.
When Corgan toured with NO in 2001 he talked about feeling the old JD energy from the three remaining members when they played a couple of JD songs on that tour.

Speaking of U2... and JD. That bit in Bad where Bono sings "Isolation" may have been inspired by...y'know.
But perhaps I'm not saying anything new here.

Yeah the old "New Order so influential" thing..... hard now to pinpoint exactly when all that started.Probably started around the late 90s and gathered steam when the likes of NME and Q started giving them lifetime achievement acknowledgement awards .Certainly back in the 80s they would receive a negative and even mocking review as often as a positive one and were a long way off being revered and respected as they are now.


I never fully signed up for the opinion of "Joy Division would have been massive if Curtis hadn't topped himself" The music is great but it's too brutal for the masses.The masses don't buy brutal music.You could say U2 took the opportunity and took the idea of Joy Division and created a softer, more palatable version that they knew the masses would lap up.


Joy Division are regarded now as influential but that didn't gather pace until the late 90s/early 2000s onwards.People forget that by 1984 the only people that still gave a fuck about Joy Division were the long green raincoat brigade.

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So that's a thing?

Anyway normal service has been resumed. Been on an Australia-sized holiday.

NO have two great songs about dwellings- RTS and Dracula's Castle - drac and shack. I would be proud to have both played at my funeral.
Here is a well planned 2 1/2 - 3 hour funeral service
Wagner Rheingold
Atmosphere
Vicious streak
Guilt is a ...
The Lord's Prayer
Transmission
California Grass
Hellbent
6 from technique
12 more sirens
Lord's Prayer repeat ,
6 from republic,
All day long
True Faith
8 from get ready,
silent night.

Other than that

What if Gillian was a spice girl, and what would her name be ? Also, what if New Order gets some mellotrons and practice vocal harmonies and write some cool moody blues type songs ?



And lastly , will the next 3 albums have 9,10, or 11 songs each , and will the lost republics ever be found?
Can 6 Ken dolls ( ian , hooky, bernard ,steven phil and tom) and a Barbie doll as gilliian successfully recreate wonderfully various episodes of joy division / new order / new new order life? ? Yes, yes, and yes. They have an aspect of looking clever, a bit bored, but creative, too.And laughing in the face of fear or destiny. And being nice to action figures of bands like motorhead or ac/dc or soft cell, but inside wondering whether they , at 14", , should kick the little 6" punks off the shelf.
And there are thousands of wigs and clothing ensembles so as to make them extra cool.
All is well with New Order, assuming they release on CD all songs played live the last few years, the live Manchester festival from July stuff, and then maybe they should start preparing for the next albums ,and remember to write 7 extra and great songs (like lost sirens) and remember to play about 40-50 more old songs live and record them

Vicious Streak + Primitive Notion reviews posted.

Stats for 2017 = 60,000 views of the blog. 2016 = 40,000. You're all welcome for beers, 7pm sharp.

Mel C's FB page has 12654 'likes'. That's more than mine.
I know I've said this before, but PN would be up there with 24 Hours and Sunrise if the lyrics weren't so poor.

Who hasn't taken their significant other , after a bit of debauchery, embarrassment ,and shame, to the local zoo and had that forlorn look of despair when the zoo staff says 'no way jose'. ?Bernard is always brilliant , as are they all.
Get Ready 2 will blow our minds
Get Ready ,Again Is already off the charts , and then
The Final Sirens goes pentagalactic

I like Slow Jam. I like the guitar on it, Hooky’s bass, Steve’s drums, and actually like Bernard’s lyrics.Can’t be arsed to talk about Rock The Shack except to say the Lamacq session version is better.

Great reviews again that I agree with except RTS should have got one star!

I like Slow jam and always let it play when I listen to the album.

I’ve said many times GR is improved immensely if you replace RTS with one of the b sides from that time or HTS