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Fotzepolitic  
#376 Posted : 27 November 2018 07:42:30(UTC)
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Vietnam is not completely unlistenable. It’s so so. But I just don’t get anything out of listening to it. It’s unrewarding. Maybe a few nice flourishes from Hooky but that’s about it.

Exit, Get Out and Hypnosis are all great little pieces. Listened to them a lot around the time of Control. Get Out easily the best and most affecting of the three.Really lovely,haunting piano.
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#377 Posted : 07 December 2018 05:40:58(UTC)
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Dennis rarely puts a foot wrong, but even he has to qualify 'They never sold out.' ('Flogging a dead horse...') They practically admitted it themselves in the 44678437905432 1993 interviews:
O2: When London talk about a 4th Republic single to lead up to Christmas, it's not very New Order... We feel like we've sold a bit of our souls already, like there'll be no more videos for art's sake, and we're shaping up to say no next time.
Bernard: We've done endless promotion, really because London see New Order as something of an investment.
Hooky: London seem very trad, but after working with us, they might change. / Really? It'd be strange for a multinational to change over four musicians. / Ha ha, you're right you bastard! You journos are always right.
I don't object to people actually wanting to get paid, but it amazes me that they are still admired for this totally like, rad stance they haven't flaunted for over 30 years.
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#378 Posted : 12 December 2018 07:39:52(UTC)
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Dennis rarely puts a foot wrong, but even he has to qualify 'They never sold out.'


...in so far as they never did a Jazz album, have (yet) to do an acoustic greatest hits, and their Christmas recordings were limited to the Hacienda Flexi - which has cred.

In other aspects I may be wrong. Roll Eyes

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#379 Posted : 12 December 2018 11:15:34(UTC)
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Could be wrong...
they never did a Jazz album, never did an acoustic greatest hits, never did a festive recording... For years, never did FA.
Everyone wells out (unless they die or go insane first). My personal favourite was Alexei Sayle's 'Geoffrey the Tube Train and the Fat Comedian', wherein he discusses Comedian's Hell. 7 layers getting deeper and deeper depending on your crime, from gameshows through US sitcoms to... The WORST thing, the MOST DESPICABLE crime: ADVERTS.
Four years later Lex was VOing Woolies.

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Dennis Remmer  
#380 Posted : 29 December 2018 06:11:06(UTC)
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Get Out + Hellbent reviews posted.



Thanks for reading. Wishing a fine NYE to all on NOOL... Cool
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#381 Posted : 29 December 2018 07:00:36(UTC)
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Totally right about Hellbent. Like Let's Go on The Best Of, it was a marketing ploy.
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#382 Posted : 31 December 2018 07:54:49(UTC)
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Although a cynical marketing ploy I actually really like the track.

Some great lines in the track such as : your the star in the scene not just anybody.

Nice piano break in the verse about girlfriends and sleep. Strong chorus.

For me along with I’ll stay with you the best two tracks on LS with Californian grass not far behind.
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#383 Posted : 01 January 2019 20:34:43(UTC)
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Lost sirens are like technique for me, in that if my life depended on knowing the title of every song , ,i likely would not live . Perhaps i have a NO title dyslexia for those two .
I love all of the sirens , as well as almost everything after brotherhood, although turn my way is not an eternally likeable song, whereas ,your silent face, all day long , and viscious streak are the top 3 . Note: all day long is not the lionel ritchey song.
Hellbent is also one of my eternals.

New Years resolutions
I will try to like some of the lowlife and pcl songs more, i will try to understand NO fans that don't like my fave NO songs, but if a friend likes queen or elton john or led zep,or Kiss or Ozzy ,but not NO, i can't fathom what kind of sadness they will have in their probably damned eternity

New Topics to be considered
1- What if the members of PF and NO were reversed and Bernard and Ian Peter and Stephen were Syd and Roger and Nick and Richard , and Gillian was David Gilmour, and the reverse ?
2- A book release of Dennis' reviews
3 - Why not more films using NO songs , What is wrong with the directors ?
4- How to listen to more other great songs ,even though they are not by NO , without feeling a bit New Orderless
We're like kestrels
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#384 Posted : 08 January 2019 03:53:09(UTC)
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New Topics to be considered
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2- A book release of Dennis' reviews
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Funny you should mention that...


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#385 Posted : 08 January 2019 04:17:55(UTC)
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Lost sirens are like technique


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z0QUygjr2w
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#386 Posted : 28 January 2019 20:21:31(UTC)
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#387 Posted : 03 March 2019 18:14:01(UTC)
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Recoil + Californian Grass reviews now posted.

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#388 Posted : 17 March 2019 19:39:57(UTC)
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Shake It Up + I've Got A Feeling reviews posted. Lost Sirens complete, on to MC. Thank f$%k for that.

In the home stretch now. Has it been 2 years already? Eek

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#389 Posted : 18 March 2019 08:54:43(UTC)
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Great reviews as usual.

Shake it up is such a strange one. As you said great intro and chorus but the rest is close to awful. Just shows how a potential good song can be ruined. What’s all that shouty shake it up shouting about, who thought that would be a good idea, probably needed Gillian for a bit of quality control?

As far as I am aware only I’ll stay with you and Californian Grass have been given an airing live and not surprising really. As has been discussed many times here there is a decent album to be made from WFTSC and LS......
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#390 Posted : 20 March 2019 08:12:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dennis Remmer Go to Quoted Post
Shake It Up + I've Got A Feeling reviews posted. Lost Sirens complete, on to MC. Thank f$%k for that.

In the home stretch now. Has it been 2 years already? Eek




I can only imagine ( or can't even begin to imagine) how tortuous going back over the Lost Sirens tracks was.Bet you're relieved it's all over.


Rarely listened to the album and my vague recollections of songs like Sugarcane, Recoil and Shake It Up are that they're complete dog doo.I'll Stay With You and Californian Grass are reasonably listenable and I've Got A Feeling has a decent chorus but on the whole Lost Sirens is pretty forgettable to say the least.

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