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#426 Posted : 08 October 2019 14:32:17(UTC)
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... and Dec’s superb Heaven to Heaven book.


That book is simply brilliant. Best NO book by a long way. I urge people who haven't got it to try and source a copy (all long sold out sadly, but they end up on eBay every now and again).

I echo the sentiments of people here and on the blog. What a wonderful project, Dennis. Excellent, insightful reviews and some great comments from the faithful.

As to the way forward, I'm hoping that you do reviews for 'Homage' and 'Are You Ready...?' too, as these are now officially released songs. Then, fingers crossed, we get a 'new' track or two on the PCL box set (and subsequent sets).

Then, maybe, some back-tracking to the Joy Division tracks, possibly?

That would be great.

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#427 Posted : 08 October 2019 16:30:32(UTC)
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Thanks to all of you for the ongoing feedback & personal insights. The stats on this thread are very humbling.

Yes I will be handling a few final outliers and writing up a big essay on the meaning of it all. With graphs.

Would you lot like it all in book form?
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#428 Posted : 08 October 2019 22:52:32(UTC)
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Definitely! Great idea!
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#429 Posted : 09 October 2019 04:21:27(UTC)
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It sounds very final, and quite honestly that might be for the best. Could they top it?
You will be proud to know that this has inspired me to write a critique of every Spice Girls song, 'Old Spice', with my free hand. It's long and hard, but I'll pull it off.
Is Stumm a core trasck, or are we just grateful for anything now? I could argue that Sister Ray is a core track. Or I could shut the fuck up.
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#430 Posted : 09 October 2019 08:02:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dennis Remmer Go to Quoted Post
Thanks to all of you for the ongoing feedback & personal insights. The stats on this thread are very humbling.

Yes I will be handling a few final outliers and writing up a big essay on the meaning of it all. With graphs.

Would you lot like it all in book form?


I for one would, love vinyl, love books not a digital kind of guy really
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#431 Posted : 09 October 2019 10:47:09(UTC)
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I like Superheated.Always been a fan of the song.Great vocals and lyrics by Bernard.Really like the synths, melodies and the chimes.Oh and also that raw sounding synth around the 2 minute to 2.10 mark.Don't even mind fog 'orn Flowers on this song either.Just a great pop song.The synths are celebratory yet nostalgic.Was surprised it wasn't released as a fourth and final single from the album.

Thanks for all your work over the last few years, Dennis.An incredible job.You expressed in words infinitely better than i ever could of about so many of my thoughts and feelings and about many many songs.How on earth did you find the time though?
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#432 Posted : 09 October 2019 12:52:56(UTC)
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Was surprised it wasn't released as a fourth and final single from the album.


5th. ;)

(Restless, Tutti Frutti, Singularity, People On The High Line)
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#433 Posted : 10 October 2019 20:56:10(UTC)
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Is Stumm a core trasck, or are we just grateful for anything now? I could argue that Sister Ray is a core track. Or I could shut the fuck up.


Re: Sister Ray, I've not included it for 2 reasons; both pedantic.
1) I think of it more as a cover by Joy Division and 2) all recordings of it are live ones only. I've limited my reviews to material recorded in a studio and released officially. Otherwise there'd be a few more to include as discussed here.

However, if you really insist...



When do we get to see yr Spice Girls blog?
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#434 Posted : 11 October 2019 03:09:58(UTC)
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Sister Ray is a bit of a free for all.
My Spice Girls blog is in my mind. Thoughts are becoming clearer.
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#435 Posted : 11 October 2019 11:37:53(UTC)
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Spice Girls were a fine act, but I could never forgive Posh for robbing me of Becks.
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#436 Posted : 11 October 2019 13:19:44(UTC)
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Is Stumm a core trasck, or are we just grateful for anything now? I could argue that Sister Ray is a core track. Or I could shut the fuck up.


Re: Sister Ray, I've not included it for 2 reasons; both pedantic.
1) I think of it more as a cover by Joy Division and 2) all recordings of it are live ones only. I've limited my reviews to material recorded in a studio and released officially.


It's not pedantic IMHO, it was meant to be about NO's music (wasn't it?), not live cover versions. If you're going to add extra bits I think maybe they need to be on a separate page/section.

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#437 Posted : 12 October 2019 04:22:50(UTC)
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I loved it when the Barnster introduced it as An Old Joy Division Song. Twot.

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Spice Girls were a fine act, but I could never forgive Posh for robbing me of Becks.


People say, Were you sad when Mel C got married? I said, No. Because it made little difference to the chances of me and Mel ever etc. Yes, one good-looking, multimillionaire, commercially and critically admired international megastar; one strikingly unattractive, sad lonely pathetic, humourless stylelss soulless, bespectacled balding overweight, socially inept icompetent impotent, foul-mouthed, cynical, geeky nerdy turdy, moaning-groaning-griping-whingeing-whining, fashion-unconscious, stinky-armpitty, alcoholic wankoholic spunkaholic total and utter fucking wanker who never achieved anything except a degree in Latin, LATIN ffs, even I think it's about as useful as a wank mag at a feminist convention, an infantile pitiable obsession with officially the most overpaid undertalented girl group ever that went out of fashion 20 years ago and even then they were fucking shit and called the Spice Girls, and let's not forget only one friend and that's only on Facebook and it's next door's Labrador and it's only using you for food and still won't shag you? No, Melanie's wedding ain't gonna change the odds much.
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#438 Posted : 12 October 2019 06:49:26(UTC)
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Bad day, eh, Michael?

Do you need a hug?
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#439 Posted : 12 October 2019 07:09:31(UTC)
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There are some oddities left, like When I'm With You or Anarchy in the UK, but they're off limits.
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#440 Posted : 17 October 2019 21:17:55(UTC)
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Cleaning up...

Homage + Are You Ready For This? reviews now posted.

Just got my final thesis and 4'33'" to do.

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#441 Posted : 22 October 2019 23:05:25(UTC)
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I've posted some final obsessiveness to the blog - see End Here.

Dennis
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#442 Posted : 23 October 2019 03:04:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dennis Remmer Go to Quoted Post


Probably shouldn't admit this but for a moment I said "they're not there" before going..."ohh scroll back to Movement".
Re: the bit in your Are You Ready comments where you say it was "remarkably magnanimous of Bernard, Peter & Stephen", judging by Bernard's recent Tsugi magazine comments about the Box Sets, he may not have known that much about it!

Where you say, "I know first-hand that there is much in the archive that will finally see the light of day throughout this remarkable campaign."
Aside from live/demo/alternate versions, do you know if there could be any "new" music we may not have heard before? Or am I getting carried away?

BTW at the risk of sounding pedantic, I've spotted a typo in your Homage review (2nd word of the 2nd line of the 2nd paragraph).
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#443 Posted : 23 October 2019 12:13:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dennis Remmer Go to Quoted Post


Probably shouldn't admit this but for a moment I said "they're not there" before going..."ohh scroll back to Movement".
Re: the bit in your Are You Ready comments where you say it was "remarkably magnanimous of Bernard, Peter & Stephen", judging by Bernard's recent Tsugi magazine comments about the Box Sets, he may not have known that much about it!

Where you say, "I know first-hand that there is much in the archive that will finally see the light of day throughout this remarkable campaign."
Aside from live/demo/alternate versions, do you know if there could be any "new" music we may not have heard before? Or am I getting carried away?

BTW at the risk of sounding pedantic, I've spotted a typo in your Homage review (2nd word of the 2nd line of the 2nd paragraph).


Yep I was scratching my head a bit at first also about where exactly I could find the Homage and Are You Ready For This? reviews but found them eventually after the In A Lonely Place review.Yes, curious to know if the stuff that will eventually see the light of day in future definitive box editions is previous unreleased “new” stuff or alternate/demos. Probably the latter (like for example the alternate Temptation 7” version on the Movement box)

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#444 Posted : 23 October 2019 23:00:07(UTC)
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I've spotted a typo.


Eagle eyed! Read

Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
Or am I getting carried away?


From the info I have: demos with working names, unused versions & instrumentals; some we know about, some I wasn't aware of. But I feel sure that there are some outliers waiting to be unearthed through the Definitive campaign.

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#445 Posted : 25 October 2019 00:03:54(UTC)
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Are You Ready For This?[/url] review
D


... As desperation takes hold...
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#446 Posted : 03 November 2019 20:50:15(UTC)
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That's it - I'm done. 3 yrs & 137 reviews later...

4'33" review + End Here analysis are posted.

You've all been mightily grand with your feedback. Now where was that book template...



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#447 Posted : 05 November 2019 11:00:40(UTC)
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That's it - I'm done. 3 yrs & 137 reviews later...

4'33" review + End Here analysis are posted.

You've all been mightily grand with your feedback. Now where was that book template...





Congratulations.
Been following it from the beginning. very good job on the site, and discussion of the tracks.

We're doing a smaller scale version of new order - track by track on
the Steve Hoffman music forums. We just finished 'waiting for the siren's call',
and am getting to 'lost sirens' now.

later
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#448 Posted : 06 November 2019 00:50:23(UTC)
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We're doing a smaller scale version of new order - track by track on
the Steve Hoffman music forums. We just finished 'waiting for the siren's call',
and am getting to 'lost sirens' now.

later
-1


You got a link to that/those posts?
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#449 Posted : 06 November 2019 11:36:17(UTC)
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We're doing a smaller scale version of new order - track by track on
the Steve Hoffman music forums. We just finished 'waiting for the siren's call',
and am getting to 'lost sirens' now.

later
-1


You got a link to that/those posts?


It starts here: https://forums.stevehoff...new-order-albums.738006/

There was more activity at the beginning, and now its just a few people discussing them,
which is normal for the latter albums.

later
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#450 Posted : 09 November 2019 09:25:27(UTC)
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I finally got the Extended Versions Mucous Complete CD. I wasn't gonna bother cos I'm not that kinda obsessive and the tracks don't need remixing, but it was cheap and I was bored.
In the words of Charles Dickens, what a fucking total and fucking utter fucking pile of fucking shit. Just splice bits up and around and then repeat bits again and again and afuckinggain. This isn't the 80s, and you're not fucking Razormaid. I will NEVER sit through that never-ending Restless again. Shit.
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