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Big Mouth Julio		#26 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:38:02(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		NotAMod wrote: I think you're probably wasting time trying to get sense out of his posts, Johnny Respect, please! Do not like your sarcastic jokes. Remember you are the MODERATOR, ok?
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Eimi		#27 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:42:18(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 688 Location: Japan Thanks: 528 times Was thanked: 875 time(s) in 688 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: NotAMod wrote: I think you're probably wasting time trying to get sense out of his posts, Johnny Respect, please! Do not like your sarcastic jokes. Remember you are the MODERATOR, ok? He didn't seem too sarcastic IMO.
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Big Mouth Julio		#28 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:42:34(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		surface wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: Anyone here worked with Bernard Sumner? So shut up! He thinks he is the owner of the world. Gillian and Steve are working with him for only one reason, MONEY!!! Can see Phil and Tom doing it for the money but come on Steve and Gillian - have you seen their house? Hi mate. They had very bad health problems on their family recently. Gillian had problems, her daddy passed away last year, they have a children that needs heath care. I am not calling them mercenaries, ever! They need the money to pay the bills like anyone of us! Love "The Other Two"!
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Big Mouth Julio		#29 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:44:49(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		leather-girl wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: NotAMod wrote: I think you're probably wasting time trying to get sense out of his posts, Johnny Respect, please! Do not like your sarcastic jokes. Remember you are the MODERATOR, ok? He didn't seem too sarcastic IMO. OK it is yours, I respect but it is worse than sarcastic indeed. Nobody is the owner of the truth. Edited by user 19 January 2013 17:46:11(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Nick King		#30 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:44:57(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 79 Location: Welwyn Garden City Thanks: 50 times Was thanked: 122 time(s) in 83 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: I don't like Bernard Sumner as a person. But like Gillian and Steve. Oh, Phil too. Have you actually met Bernard Sumner?
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Big Mouth Julio		#31 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:47:20(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		Nick King wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: I don't like Bernard Sumner as a person. But like Gillian and Steve. Oh, Phil too. Have you actually met Bernard Sumner? 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.
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Nick King		#32 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:49:39(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 79 Location: Welwyn Garden City Thanks: 50 times Was thanked: 122 time(s) in 83 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen. Was just wondering how you'd come to the conclusion that you hated Bernard Sumner, then?
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Big Mouth Julio		#33 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:52:08(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		Nick King wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen. Was just wondering how you'd come to the conclusion that you hated Bernard Sumner, then? Nick, there's a large bridge between don't like and hate m8! He had personal problems with Rob and Terry. The problem is that some things stay buried in the sand. Edited by user 19 January 2013 17:54:23(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Big Mouth Julio		#34 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:57:37(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		Debaser wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: Anyone here worked with Bernard Sumner? So shut up! He thinks he is the owner of the world. Gillian and Steve are working with him for only one reason, MONEY!!! I went to see Hooky on Thursday night. The tickets weren't free. He thought he was king of the band. Surprised? Think the one on the previous one was, Nobitz.
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Nick King		#35 Posted : 19 January 2013 17:58:13(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 79 Location: Welwyn Garden City Thanks: 50 times Was thanked: 122 time(s) in 83 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: Nick, there's a large bridge between don't like and hate m8! He had personal problems with Rob and Terry. The problem is that some things stay buried in the sand. My mistake (hate) - is the basis of the "don't like" bit come from interviews? I mean, I don't like some of the choices that various members of New Order do and some of what they say in interviews, but it doesn't make me dislike them....
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NotAMod		#36 Posted : 19 January 2013 18:00:15(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 653 Location: London, UK Thanks: 176 times Was thanked: 1040 time(s) in 655 post(s)		Julio, you rave undiluted, uninformed and questionable Hooky sycophancy regularly. That is my opinion as an individual. However, as a moderator that doesn't come into consideration as I have not (yet) moderated a single post you have left. You are free to post whatever bollocks you like in terms of how superior Hooky is to Bernard is so long as it's not libellous. I have simply warned you not to tell other users of the forum "shut up" as you did when they present an opposing viewpoint. Get a grip and calm down.

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Big Mouth Julio		#37 Posted : 19 January 2013 18:02:45(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		NotAMod wrote: Julio, you rave undiluted, uninformed and questionable Hooky sycophancy regularly. That is my opinion as an individual. However, as a moderator that doesn't come into consideration as I have not (yet) moderated a single post you have left. You are free to post whatever bollocks you like in terms of how superior Hooky is to Bernard is so long as it's not libellous. I have simply warned you not to tell other users of the forum "shut up" as you did when they present an opposing viewpoint. Get a grip and calm down. Yeah, "I've got a feeling". Nice title.
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Mike C.		#38 Posted : 19 January 2013 18:14:31(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 129 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Thanks: 215 times Was thanked: 152 time(s) in 129 post(s)		jed the shed wrote: I think they should get Stuart Price to produce their next album, he's done a good job with 586, it seems to me to be a good direction for them to go in, bt still keep a mix of the guitar based tracks too, I think it would be silly for them to try to keep the hooky bass sound they need to move on if they want to retain any credibility, and Hooky would never shut up about it too, as much as I love his playing he does go on! Have you heard his PSB mix of Memory of the Future? He certainly would be a worthy producer for the new synth album they want to make. (Still waiting for Lost Sirens call from Amazon.com/USA)
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Eimi		#39 Posted : 19 January 2013 19:27:24(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 688 Location: Japan Thanks: 528 times Was thanked: 875 time(s) in 688 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: leather-girl wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: NotAMod wrote: I think you're probably wasting time trying to get sense out of his posts, Johnny Respect, please! Do not like your sarcastic jokes. Remember you are the MODERATOR, ok? He didn't seem too sarcastic IMO. OK it is yours, I respect but it is worse than sarcastic indeed. Nobody is the owner of the truth. I admit sarcasm is difficult to read.
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Michael Monkhouse		#40 Posted : 20 January 2013 04:03:18(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Well I guess anyone who gets off his/her fat arse and makes money can be accused of just being in it for the dough! Unless it's for charity, in which case they're accused of just doing it for the image. Back in '96 I read an interesting 'Select' article (does that make sense?) about the top ten indie breadheads, guys who are seen as a thorn in the side of the establishment but actually make wads of cash. Number One was those Pet Shop Men, which is odd as I've always seen them as super-commercial (not a criticism, just a fact!), with 16 million. And second was, that's right, New Order with 10 million. Not bad given their last record was 3 years before and a lot of people thought it was shit!

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phil		#41 Posted : 20 January 2013 04:45:27(UTC)
Rank: Young Offender Groups: Registered Joined: 27/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 26 Location: burminghum engerlaisey Thanks: 18 times Was thanked: 37 time(s) in 29 post(s)		finally got to log on today without any password errors, cannot remember how many months its been, and been unable to comment. i have to say i hope new order self produce the album with assistance from a third party...eg stuart price. new orders best albums were done with gillian gilbert on board.....thats the truth. new order do not sound the same without hooky we all know this...i was at the troxy gig and b,ham ballroom (rip) and tom just couldnt win as he is not hooky and is having to play his material, i have just watched the live in berlin gig and tom now is very comfortable in his role. i think Julio is a good fella he just speaks his mind ,if a little abrupt at times....must be his south american blood.....lol. i have never wanted to meet the band as i dont want to destroy ant perceptions i have ...plus im a bit shy.... and ding dong to leather girl (in a leslie phillips stylee..lol) i havent been to see hooky and the light play but i just might as john robbs review of his movement/power c+lies live interpretation is very flattering......hhhmmmm ps rocket mick could you please thank me for this post or i feel left out mr rocket is a neworderlegend Edited by user 20 January 2013 04:47:52(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Big Mouth Julio		#42 Posted : 20 January 2013 05:20:42(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		i think Julio is a good fella he just speaks his mind ,if a little abrupt at times....must be his south american blood..... Just cannot stop laughing Phil. What fookin' awesome conclusion you had lol i have never wanted to meet the band as i dont want to destroy ant perceptions i have ...plus im a bit shy.... Don't waste your time with those lazy bastards! and ding dong to leather girl (in a leslie phillips stylee..lol) Be careful with your words, ding dong during Sister Ray's cover by Joy Division means something different m8 lol mr rocket is a neworderlegend... Yeah!!! And Shug knows a lot about this than all of us lol
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johndemetry		#43 Posted : 20 January 2013 05:38:52(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 18/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 14 Location: NYC Was thanked: 16 time(s) in 14 post(s)		Stuart Price's work rubs me the wrong way. I really wish they would work with either Brian Higgins or Richard X.
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Cranelane		#44 Posted : 20 January 2013 06:18:54(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 378 Location: Cork Thanks: 144 times Was thanked: 511 time(s) in 388 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen. The thing is though, if everytime you meet the members of the band you tell them how great they are etc you are helping to further inflate their egos.

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Big Mouth Julio		#45 Posted : 20 January 2013 07:07:49(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 316 Location: São Luís - Brasil Thanks: 26 times Was thanked: 346 time(s) in 318 post(s)		Cranelane wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen. The thing is though, if everytime you meet the members of the band you tell them how great they are etc you are helping to further inflate their egos. Imagine how Hooky feels when we call him Godbass! lol
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0_o		#46 Posted : 20 January 2013 08:26:15(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 09/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 80 Thanks: 13 times Was thanked: 92 time(s) in 80 post(s)		As far as fans meeting them, it is not hard to imagine that Bernard or Peter might get annoyed after awhile with stupid questions and posing for cell phone photos... how much patience would you have posing for photos with strangers? Or fans getting something signed so they can sell it online. Seems like at least some people here have had good experiences meeting one or the other. And yes, all of Peter, Steve, Gillian, and Bernard are profiting off of their past. They are allowed, they did the work in the past to be able to be at this point... it is what it is... Edited by user 20 January 2013 08:31:45(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Ruined in a day		#47 Posted : 20 January 2013 08:27:32(UTC)
Rank: Young Offender Groups: Registered Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 27 Thanks: 7 times Was thanked: 40 time(s) in 28 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: I am not calling them mercenaries, ever! You just did, my dear!

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surface		#48 Posted : 20 January 2013 10:56:01(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 27/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 132 Location: Alderley Edge Was thanked: 194 time(s) in 138 post(s)		Big Mouth Julio wrote: Nick King wrote: Big Mouth Julio wrote: I don't like Bernard Sumner as a person. But like Gillian and Steve. Oh, Phil too. Have you actually met Bernard Sumner? 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen. I don't see that. I live in the same village as both of them and they both seem very nice - happy to sign CD's, talk about books they are writing or new albums? Re your comment about Gillian and Steve, Julio. They certainly don't look like they need any money - their house just like Hookys and Bernards is probably worth well over a million quid?

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phil		#49 Posted : 20 January 2013 14:57:28(UTC)
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