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is it bro  
#26 Posted : 04 September 2020 08:46:51(UTC)
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Hey there Hooky, don’t be a rebel
Turn down your fucking bass and order me a treble
Hey there hooky, don’t be a rebel
Cos music complete sounds incredible
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#27 Posted : 05 September 2020 07:11:33(UTC)
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You know, if this was an outtake from Get Ready or WFTSC I wouldn't get my hopes up, but music Complete is SO GOOD. They put in the effort, and it really shows - particularly with Barney's lyrics.


“Due to current studies, the fiscal climate isn’t looking good” - Academic

I agree that the lyrics of MC were excellent except for this one dodger of a line. I mean come on, Barney could you not think of ANYTHING less clunky? I wish Steve and Gillian would have put their foot down on that one. I don’t let it ruin the song for me but man alive this is the single worst line I’ve ever heard Mr. Sumner utter in a song.

...in a single breath, this world is gone...
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#28 Posted : 05 September 2020 07:20:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mike C. Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
You know, if this was an outtake from Get Ready or WFTSC I wouldn't get my hopes up, but music Complete is SO GOOD. They put in the effort, and it really shows - particularly with Barney's lyrics.


“Due to current studies, the fiscal climate isn’t looking good” - Academic

I agree that the lyrics of MC were excellent except for this one dodger of a line. I mean come on, Barney could you not think of ANYTHING less clunky? I wish Steve and Gillian would have put their foot down on that one. I don’t let it ruin the song for me but man alive this is the single worst line I’ve ever heard Mr. Sumner utter in a song.






Academic you say? Tongue
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#29 Posted : 05 September 2020 08:03:53(UTC)
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this is the single worst line I’ve ever heard Mr. Sumner utter in a song.



“I've been accused of everything
From Timbuktu to old Berlin”


C’mon, that’s got to be worse.

I could’ve picked any line from that song, to illustrate my point. Just picked the first two, for ease...
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#30 Posted : 05 September 2020 08:56:35(UTC)
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“I've been accused of everything
From Timbuktu to old Berlin”


I've often wondered whether Bernard meant 'old Berlin' in the sense of the age of the city or in the sense of 'Oh you old Berlin you'. 'Back in good old Berlin, the cheeky little city, so it is'

We may never know for sure.
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ROCKET MICK on 06/09/2020(UTC)
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#31 Posted : 05 September 2020 09:18:04(UTC)
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It's Be A Rebel, and now you can hear a little bit. That sounds like an old school NO synth line to me.
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#32 Posted : 05 September 2020 12:47:25(UTC)
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Sounds Electronic-ish to me
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ROCKET MICK on 06/09/2020(UTC)
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#33 Posted : 05 September 2020 13:08:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mike C. Go to Quoted Post
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You know, if this was an outtake from Get Ready or WFTSC I wouldn't get my hopes up, but music Complete is SO GOOD. They put in the effort, and it really shows - particularly with Barney's lyrics.


“Due to current studies, the fiscal climate isn’t looking good” - Academic

I agree that the lyrics of MC were excellent except for this one dodger of a line. I mean come on, Barney could you not think of ANYTHING less clunky? I wish Steve and Gillian would have put their foot down on that one. I don’t let it ruin the song for me but man alive this is the single worst line I’ve ever heard Mr. Sumner utter in a song.






Academic you say? Tongue


OMG!!!!
...in a single breath, this world is gone...
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#34 Posted : 05 September 2020 14:46:35(UTC)
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There are people replying to the sound clip post on NO's facebook page saying, "probably a Blue Monday re-release". The only reason I havent commented with "Are you thick??" Is because BM actually is getting re-released this year Uh oh .

I still reckon this is gonna be a Rebel and an Ally Pally DVD/album announcement. Synergistic promotion or something.

Oh and for anyone allergic to Facebook, let's embed a Twitter. Especially as there's a bird connection.

Edited by user 05 September 2020 15:05:14(UTC)  | Reason: Tweet tweet

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ROCKET MICK on 06/09/2020(UTC)
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#35 Posted : 06 September 2020 15:54:18(UTC)
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Hmm...

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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#36 Posted : 06 September 2020 16:40:29(UTC)
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Hmm...



I seriously doubt this announcement has anything to do with that. While it's great that Substance is back online, there'll likely be a box set down the road.

Remember, NO have two record labels now: Rhino (Warners), handling their back catalog up to Music Complete, and Mute, handling everything going forward. With all the promotion around the PC&L box (Rhino), it works in Mute's favor to release something new. Tandem publicity.
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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#37 Posted : 06 September 2020 18:14:35(UTC)
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That's very true. I get that. Let's see what tomorrow brings...
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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#38 Posted : 07 September 2020 02:17:15(UTC)
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Who really need Substance on streaming?
it's just shit.
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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#39 Posted : 07 September 2020 04:52:20(UTC)
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Saturday morning I spotted Substance back on various digital stores and bought a single track (Confusion) in the hope it had been remastered like all of the other Factory albums.

Turns out it hasn't been (identical to my Facd200 rip) so that is a little disappointing. Joy Division's Substance got its own sound upgrade 5 years ago so why the "gateway" album for so many NO fans is exempted is a bit of a mystery.

Was there a reason why it was removed from streaming for over 5 years? The other Factory albums have been freely available for of all that time.

Assuming licensing or politics.
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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#40 Posted : 07 September 2020 05:35:53(UTC)
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I always assumed it was deemed 'low priority' by Rhino etc.

In the case of most bands, 'compilation' LPs might be considered 'gravy' in comparison to the 'meat and potatoes' of studio LPs.
Obviously, this isn't the case with New Order, with 'Substance' being a vital LP, containing 17 unique songs not appearing on a studio LP. But Rhino might not have paid too much attention to this and treated it like any other 'best of'.


But this is very much speculation on my part.
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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#41 Posted : 07 September 2020 08:33:09(UTC)
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If it was the Rhino of 10 years ago I would have shared your opinion but to give Warners their dues they have considerably upped their game beginning with "Total". Those in charge of the recent reissues seem to know the value of what they're dealing with, something which was utterly absent for the shit-show that was the Collector's Editions 12 years ago. Anyway, a better sounding Substance would be welcome and I'm sure I can't be the only fan thinking that. The original Factory CDs - and subsequent represses based off of them - are bit quiet and a bass-light.

We know Substance is principally made up of tracks from the 12" singles between 1981 and 1987. We also know Warners are gradually reissuing the 12" singles per album era which could explain why they've not done anything with Substance yet. Why release all the good stuff in one go? That is my thinking.

As of right now we're on album 2 of 4 (excluding Technique as it's post-Substance) so I guess we're looking at 2022-3 for a potential Substance reissue if the pace of the box-set releases speed up. It's been 18 months between the Movement and PC&L boxes, arguably with a well publicised delay into the mix. Hopefully the Low-life/Brotherhood ones will be more like 6 months apart.

But like you perspexorange, all very much speculation on my part.

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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#42 Posted : 07 September 2020 08:36:31(UTC)
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#43 Posted : 07 September 2020 09:11:02(UTC)
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Cheers Linus, great news just what I (we) needed a brand new New Order song. Sounds good on the snippet. Hopefully 12” release and not just digital
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ROCKET MICK on 07/09/2020(UTC)
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#44 Posted : 07 September 2020 09:27:43(UTC)
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Its confirmed Be A Rebel is coming out tomorrow via New Order official just now. Will anyone be recording it off the Zoe Ball show??
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#45 Posted : 07 September 2020 09:29:36(UTC)
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Anyone in Japan already got it? I've tried to purchase it but couldn't due to timestamp reasons or something.

https://music.oricon.co....CdTop.php?cd=SPB00335171

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#46 Posted : 07 September 2020 09:31:21(UTC)
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Anyone in Japan already got it? I've tried to purchase it but couldn't due to timestamp reasons or something.

https://music.oricon.co....CdTop.php?cd=SPB00335171


Just got it on iTunes Aus/NZ - full & edited versions.

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#47 Posted : 07 September 2020 23:16:36(UTC)
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It’s on Spotify along with Substance (been too long for that one).
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#48 Posted : 07 September 2020 23:37:23(UTC)
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It’s on Spotify along with Substance (been too long for that one).


Apple Music too.

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#49 Posted : 07 September 2020 23:42:43(UTC)
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It appears it's on the band's YouTube page now too (both versions):
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#50 Posted : 08 September 2020 03:48:29(UTC)
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It appears it's on the band's YouTube page now too (both versions):


Wonder if there’s a video? All singles have a video didn’t they?
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