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perspexorange  
#51 Posted : 11 October 2019 02:43:34(UTC)
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Thanks for the update, JJ. Much appreciated.
Thanks for all the hard work you and others have put into what looks like an awesome set.
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#52 Posted : 11 October 2019 03:08:21(UTC)
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Awesome but the price tag is still a stumbling block. That's a lot of beer money.
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#53 Posted : 11 October 2019 04:04:13(UTC)
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Awesome but the price tag is still a stumbling block. That's a lot of beer money.


What I always do in cases like this, is pre-order from Amazon at the earliest opportunity to lock in their pre-order price.
Chances are the RRP will drop and you’re guaranteed to get it at the lowest price that it is throughout your pre-order period.

Then just put a note in your calendar a week or so before release. You can then decide whether to cancel or keep at that point. If you keep it (and why wouldn’t you?), you’ll probably get it cheaper than if you’d decided to buy it on / after release, on a whim?

I should point out that there is NO WAY I’d cancel a set as good as this one looks. Big Grin

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#54 Posted : 11 October 2019 05:32:52(UTC)
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The PCL box is already withdrawn fro Fnac webpage, but they know announce the four EPs, starting 15th of november.

running order :

Blue monday 15th of november
Confusion 22th of november
TLU 29th of november
Murder 6th of december
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#55 Posted : 11 October 2019 05:39:27(UTC)
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Looking forward to the Kilkenny and both Hacienda 83 gig videos.I have bootleg audio of July 83 and it's great.Also the Radio 1 broadcast of Kilkenny is ace.

Looking forward also to the Countdown footage of Confusion, Thieves New York demo, Too Late instrumental demo from the Peel session, Play At Home on DVD, Manchester 82 video and various assorted gig snippets.

Oh and i'm hoping in the book there is a photo of Bernard in his lab coat he reportedly wore during the album sessions Big Grin



Really hoping the vinyl will still have the die cut sleeve.Also the same for the BM re-release.

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#56 Posted : 11 October 2019 05:55:08(UTC)
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The listings aren't quite right and are still subject to changes, hopefully nothing major but you never know.


So my uncirculated tape of the 20 minute Ultraviolence from Hull March 1982 might still be required Happy Big Grin

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#57 Posted : 11 October 2019 06:00:17(UTC)
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The listings aren't quite right and are still subject to changes, hopefully nothing major but you never know.


So my uncirculated tape of the 20 minute Ultraviolence from Hull March 1982 might still be required Happy Big Grin




You’re joking, right?
If not, get it out there! 😉😁😁
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#58 Posted : 11 October 2019 06:14:21(UTC)
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The listings aren't quite right and are still subject to changes, hopefully nothing major but you never know.


So my uncirculated tape of the 20 minute Ultraviolence from Hull March 1982 might still be required Happy Big Grin



Does it sound better than the one in circulation?

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#59 Posted : 11 October 2019 06:53:41(UTC)
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It's still only an audience tape, but i got the master from a guy as part of a batch of John Peel Shows I was transferring for the Peel Yahoogroup. He taped it himself and said "do you want this while you're at it?"

It's a lot bassier than the circulating tape - I'll send you a PM
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#60 Posted : 11 October 2019 08:20:28(UTC)
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This is going to be THE box set, can’t wait, greatest album ever
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#61 Posted : 11 October 2019 11:11:57(UTC)
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Hope they include some of the missing edits, and pull the Peel Sessions tracks,
that would make some more space.

Looking forward to it.

later
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#62 Posted : 11 October 2019 12:29:59(UTC)
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24 January 2020 will be Factory's 42nd anniversary - so it would be a good release date to hit!
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#63 Posted : 12 October 2019 05:27:00(UTC)
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Awesome but the price tag is still a stumbling block. That's a lot of beer money.


What I always do in cases like this... Big Grin

As the Siamese twins said to the prostitute, thanks for the heads up.
The demos sound interesting. I used to have three cassettes of https://www.discogs.com/...arities/release/13264245 and the coolest part were the LowLife demos.
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#64 Posted : 12 October 2019 06:07:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bc2323 Go to Quoted Post
The PCL box is already withdrawn fro Fnac webpage, but they know announce the four EPs, starting 15th of november.

running order :

Blue monday 15th of november
Confusion 22th of november
TLU 29th of november
Murder 6th of december


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_GO5Pnpk0
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#65 Posted : 12 October 2019 10:19:41(UTC)
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I know the TOTP videos and others are nice to have.

What about the Factory shorts, would be good to finally have some of those also.

later
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#66 Posted : 12 October 2019 13:05:14(UTC)
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I know the TOTP videos and others are nice to have.

What about the Factory shorts, would be good to finally have some of those also.

later
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‘Factory Shorts’?

The only thing I know by that name is the VHS with the original BM video.

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#67 Posted : 13 October 2019 11:17:31(UTC)
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I know the TOTP videos and others are nice to have.

What about the Factory shorts, would be good to finally have some of those also.

later
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‘Factory Shorts’?

The only thing I know by that name is the VHS with the original BM video.



ok, that and a factory video, and outing had relevant tracks.

later
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#68 Posted : 13 October 2019 13:44:10(UTC)
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I know the TOTP videos and others are nice to have.

What about the Factory shorts, would be good to finally have some of those also.

later
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‘Factory Shorts’?

The only thing I know by that name is the VHS with the original BM video.



ok, that and a factory video, and outing had relevant tracks.

later
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Ah, ok.

‘Ceremony’ from ‘A Factory Video’ was included on ‘Movement’ Definitive Edition.
‘Your Silent Face’ from ‘A Factory Outing’ looks to be on the new set.

What isn’t included on either set from those VHS’s is ‘In A Lonely Place’ and the ‘Prime 5-8-6’ video from ‘AFV’, the Hacienda footage (again using ‘Prime 5-8-6’ soundtrack) from ‘AFO’ and the BM video from ‘Shorts’.

I’m kind of hoping that the respective promo videos are featured on a ‘Substance 1987’ Definitive Edition.
This could include all videos for the singles, and would include the original BM video, plus the ‘reimagined’ videos that Shamberg did for ‘Ceremony’, ‘EGG’ and ‘Temptation’.
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#69 Posted : 13 October 2019 13:49:08(UTC)
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Hmmm, I missed the two tracks from the ‘A Factory Complication’ VHS. They aren’t on either set.

The quality of those tracks ain’t the best though, which may be why they weren’t included.
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#70 Posted : 13 October 2019 14:11:04(UTC)
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I wonder if the filming of the Kilkenny gig was just someone at the back of the hall zooming in and out and across back and forth now and then ( like the Peppermint Lounge vid) ? Or was it professionally filmed by the BBC but then they later deemed it not good enough to broadcast? Bernard was a little drunk by the sounds of it though there’s great performances of Confusion & Temptation on the audio. The BBC, if they did film it, felt it was better to just air the audio, not the video?

The Hacienda July 83 inclusion on one of the DVDs should be great as if the whole gig was filmed like the clips shown on the Play At Home doc, there’s multiple camera angles, not just one camera at the back zooming in and out. Should compliment the Play At Home doc well on that same disc.Though there will be a little repetition of Thieves Like Us, Lonesome Tonight and Temptation across the Play At Home doc and the whole Hac July 83 gig video.

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#71 Posted : 14 October 2019 00:56:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
I wonder if the filming of the Kilkenny gig was just someone at the back of the hall zooming in and out and across back and forth now and then ( like the Peppermint Lounge vid) ? Or was it professionally filmed by the BBC but then they later deemed it not good enough to broadcast? Bernard was a little drunk by the sounds of it though there’s great performances of Confusion & Temptation on the audio. The BBC, if they did film it, felt it was better to just air the audio, not the video?

The Hacienda July 83 inclusion on one of the DVDs should be great as if the whole gig was filmed like the clips shown on the Play At Home doc, there’s multiple camera angles, not just one camera at the back zooming in and out. Should compliment the Play At Home doc well on that same disc.Though there will be a little repetition of Thieves Like Us, Lonesome Tonight and Temptation across the Play At Home doc and the whole Hac July 83 gig video.


Kilkenny is a single camera crew shot video.

Hacienda - July 83 is the pro-shot outtake footage from Play At Home, the only source we could find was a timecoded VHS though.
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