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#1 Posted : 20 January 2019 08:25:46(UTC)
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OK, I may be getting (wayyyyyyy!) ahead of myself, but I thought it might be fun to predict what might be on the next boxset, after 'Movement'.

Yes, I'm probably being a bit hopeful with suggestions here but, who knows, by listing stuff here, the powers that be might see it and make it happen. It therefore might be a good idea to get an early start here.

So, going on the template that 'Movement' Deluxe has set, we should possibly plan for a 1 x vinyl, 2 x CD, 1 x DVD (plus book) set, with the vinyl and 1 x CD taken up with the original LP, lovingly restored.

Therefore, we only need to speculate on the other CD and the DVD:

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#2 Posted : 20 January 2019 08:26:48(UTC)
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CD2:

It seems likely that, as we are probably getting accompanying 12"s (for, presumably, Blue Monday, Confusion, Thieves Like Us and, maybe, Murder), tracks featured on these records won't be included. This would reflect what is on 'Movement' CD2, with this not including non-album singles, b-sides etc.

I would imagine (again, like 'Movement'), we will get mainly demos on this disc.
So, possibly, a demo for each LP track, plus demos for Blue Monday, Confusion, Thieves Like Us, Lonesome Tonight and Murder.
Do demos even exist for these tracks? I would love to hear a demo of Blue Monday.

What else could be on here, though, apart from demos.
The only tracks I can think of from around this period that could feature are:

Video 5.8.6 (maybe too long to fit on the disc?)
Ode To Joy / Rocking Carol (would the band want these 'BeMusic' items included?)
Too Late / Turn The Heater On (perhaps the band had a stab at doing 'studio', i.e. non-Peel versions)

Personally, I'd love to have Video 5.8.6 feature. I'm not that bothered by the two Xmas flexi tracks, but the completist in me would rather like them added.

Anything I've missed on this that we know (or hope) exists?

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#3 Posted : 20 January 2019 08:27:26(UTC)
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DVD:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and hope that the 'music videos' are going to be included on the box-sets. If so, we could probably include the following:

Blue Monday (original video) (are there problems with copyright on this one though?)
Confusion
Primitive 5.8.6 (original video from Haçienda opening; from 'A Factory Video')

Live 'professional' / 'semi professional' stuff that exists that could be used:

Melbourne 27/11/82
Haçienda 26/01/83 (Your Silent Face was on 'A Factory Outing')
Cork 22/04/83 (2 tracks were on the Glasgow DVD)
Minneapolis 29/06/83 (great footage exists)
Music For Miners 14/05/84 (great rehearsal footage exists, sadly without sound)
Seaside Festival 11/08/84 (great footage exists and was featured on Belgian TV)

TV:

Riverside 17/0/83 (nice article about the Haçienda)
Top Of The Pops 31/03/83 (Blue Monday)
Switch 01/04/83 (Age Of Consent & Blue Monday)
Countdown 05/06/83 (Interview, Blue Monday and (the fabled) Confusion)
Riverside 10/10/83 (Interview)
DJ 03/12/83 (Thieves Like Us)
Musik Convoy 16/04/84 (Thieves Like Us)
Top Of The Pops 03/05/84 (Thieves Like Us)
Pop Elektron 25/05/84 (Interview, Thieves Like Us)
Play At Home 21/08/84 (this HAS to be included)
Rock Around The Clock 25/08/84 (I'm hoping that the band will ok this brilliant 'car crash' performance)
Estoc De Pop 15/09/84 (four tracks broadcast, but whole gig could be included)


OK - I'm about done. Phew!

Anything I've missed? Anything you'd absolutely love to see included?

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#4 Posted : 20 January 2019 12:47:59(UTC)
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A photo of Barney in his white lab coat he apparently wore during the recording sessions would be great Smile
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Rocket Mick on 21/01/2019(UTC)
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A photo of Barney in his white lab coat he apparently wore during the recording sessions would be great Smile


I'd pay for that, haha.

I wish they'd drop the live DVD stuff or release it separately. Feels like an excuse to crank up the price (if anyone's listening).

The Butterworth book might give more insight to PCL demos - been a while since I read it.

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Rocket Mick on 21/01/2019(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 21 January 2019 05:55:01(UTC)
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A photo of Barney in his white lab coat he apparently wore during the recording sessions would be great Smile


I'd pay for that, haha.

I wish they'd drop the live DVD stuff or release it separately. Feels like an excuse to crank up the price (if anyone's listening).

The Butterworth book might give more insight to PCL demos - been a while since I read it.



The live / DVD stuff is what I’m most excited by.

Don’t get me wrong, I love hearing demos and would be pumped to hear an otherwise unreleased track or two (like Homage). But the live stuff, especially from the 80s, is golden. I just love watching them on old footage. They were (are) immense.

Not sure about the details in the Butterworth book. I read it about two years ago. IIRC, he was only there during the actual final recordings, mixing etc. He might not have heard any demos (which were possibly recorded at an earlier date). Can’t seem to recall him mentioning any demos.

I’m guessing there must be demos though. Anyone know?
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Rocket Mick on 21/01/2019(UTC)
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