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Michael Monkhouse  
#51 Posted : 13 January 2021 12:50:56(UTC)
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Mucous Complete had some wank in progess names as well http://forums.neworderon...sts&t=2927#post18065
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#52 Posted : 13 January 2021 12:54:52(UTC)
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'Pop 1' (Morning, Night & Day)


I've always thought that was a very underrated song. It's one of my favorites on the album.


I've just been listening to WFTSC and I feel much the same about 'Guilt Is A Useless Emotion'. Such a great pop song!

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#53 Posted : 13 January 2021 13:09:14(UTC)
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From what I understand ...

"Big Chord" = "Ruined in a Day"

"Techno One" = "World"

"Chemical" = "Special" (!)

I don't know that content for "Here Are the Old Men" was ever decided, but that title needs to be used! (Although first we need an official DVD/BluRay release of "Here Are the Young Men.")

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#54 Posted : 13 January 2021 13:20:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fractured Go to Quoted Post

"Chemical" = "Special" (!)



This is certainly possible, as this has happened once or twice before (swapping of titles between songs).
'Incubation' / 'A Means To An End' springs to mind as one that apparently swapped names at some point.


Oh, and wasn't 'Primitive Notion' once called 'Run Wild'?

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#55 Posted : 13 January 2021 19:16:51(UTC)
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#56 Posted : 13 January 2021 23:21:40(UTC)
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Two working titles from WFTSC/Lost Sirens were 'Scott Walker' and 'Madonna'. I can't remember which tracks they were though, which one has a Scott Walker sample? I think Madonna might have been Hellbent.
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https://www.new-order.net/no/facs/workingtitles.html updated, thanks everyone.


Ruined is Big Chord, that's a tick at the end not a J.


Edit: There are a few duplications, you've also got it listed lower down. A few of those Republic demos are ideas that were never used, they don't align to finished tracks at all.

MT One is definitely what eventually turned into MTO, and it'll be because of the Roland MT32, which was used extensively on Technique.

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#58 Posted : 14 January 2021 00:50:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post

Ruined is Big Chord, that's a tick at the end not a J.


Edit: There are a few duplications, you've also got it listed lower down. A few of those Republic demos are ideas that were never used, they don't align to finished tracks at all.

MT One is definitely what eventually turned into MTO, and it'll be because of the Roland MT32, which was used extensively on Technique.


Thanks for all these, Johnny.
Do any of the others for 'Republic' line up with actual finished tracks?

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#59 Posted : 14 January 2021 01:01:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post
Two working titles from WFTSC/Lost Sirens were 'Scott Walker' and 'Madonna'. I can't remember which tracks they were though, which one has a Scott Walker sample? I think Madonna might have been Hellbent.


According to this page, 'Recoil' samples from 'The Seventh Seal' by Scott Walker.

http://forums.neworderon...osts&m=7001#post7001

Never knew that (but then I don't know a lot of Scott Walker).
Michael Monkhouse  
#60 Posted : 14 January 2021 01:04:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: thehappyone Go to Quoted Post
https://www.new-order.net/no/facs/workingtitles.html updated, thanks everyone.


Hey mate, my post was pure speculation, except Ick, which I read on Denis' site. I wouldn't put it out as true, in particular, ahem, Gillian's G String.
Yeah, I remember 'Madonna', but not which one - maybe Hellbent. Hooky used the name Aleph (STYT) in an interview about bringing back old tracks for the Sirens tour.
There was also Atmosphere / Chance and Decades / Cross of Iron. Guts might've been an advance on one of their first songs, Gutz for Garterz. Revenge and Monaco went through a few title changes too:
http://forums.neworderon...ts&m=29719#post29719

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#61 Posted : 14 January 2021 01:30:10(UTC)
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Another, it appears Chosen Time was tentatively titled 'Flow' briefly, see the master tape photographed in the Movement book.
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#62 Posted : 14 January 2021 05:02:17(UTC)
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The first Electronic bout started with early titles too: Donald (named after the drummer), Wah-Wah (Reality), Big House (Gangster or Idiot Cunty). And New One, but that doesn't really count.
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#63 Posted : 14 January 2021 07:01:02(UTC)
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I thought Madonna was Sugarcane.
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#64 Posted : 14 January 2021 08:59:50(UTC)
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Restless was Sad Chicken (the opening synth riff was likened to clucking).
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#65 Posted : 14 January 2021 09:01:29(UTC)
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No, Jcp7. Madonna is misogynistic, soft porn bullshit that puts the feminist movement back 8632 years and was instrumental in creating the ridiculous and ultimately dangerous myth that a woman who degrades her body is not a victim or a prostitute but a new form of self-empowerment. Not Sugarcane.

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Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post
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https://www.new-order.net/no/facs/workingtitles.html updated, thanks everyone.


Ruined is Big Chord, that's a tick at the end not a J.


Edit: There are a few duplications, you've also got it listed lower down. A few of those Republic demos are ideas that were never used, they don't align to finished tracks at all.

MT One is definitely what eventually turned into MTO, and it'll be because of the Roland MT32, which was used extensively on Technique.



Please Johnny, help ensure these demos are on one of the Republic box set bonus discs, instead of more of the same recycled mixes that are already on compilations, Retro, Rest Of, the original CD single releases, etc.! =)
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#67 Posted : 15 January 2021 12:52:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Go to Quoted Post
The first Electronic bout started with early titles too: Donald (named after the drummer), Wah-Wah (Reality), Big House (Gangster or Idiot Cunty). And New One, but that doesn't really count.


Yeah, the ones that were performed in LA in 1990 with different titles were:


Gangster (Big House)
Reality (Sun)
Tighten Up (Donald)
Soviet (Cinematic)
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#68 Posted : 16 January 2021 00:22:39(UTC)
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Yeah... Wah-Wah was from the Hassie gig.
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