Got standing tickets for Brixton which were expensive enough, wasn't tempted by the artwork package at nearly £90 a head, bought similar from other bands and ended up with a glorified back page of a magazine so gave it a miss.

This will be the third time I have seen them at Wolves (1986 and 2006) - just had my pre sale ticket confirmed

Much better to be standing in the stalls area in front of the stage than up on the balconies.

thanks for that, when I first looked weeks ago there was no FAQ about it.

24/96 and FLAC? That's a sale. if that wasnt an option then waiting for it to turn up on youtube was the plan (im not paying for mp3 compressed crap)

now if only certain peddlers of old factory stuff would do this, I'd be all over the content...

Same here, I would like to get the CD and if possible the additional mixes on a second cd, maybe that option will be made available later so for now I'm going to hold off on pre-ordering.

I too would like to get the extended mixes without this gimmick thing of having to purchase the vinyl. I haven't purchased any vinyl in at least 23 years - I have Technique on vinyl but not Republic. Life's too short, I don't know where my turntable is or even if I still have it, I've run out of space, and I can't hear the difference anyway. CD or vinyl free download would be just great. I haven't listened even to the clips yet but I'm sure it'll be worth it, whatever the price. I would like to hear the whole album straight off for the first time without recognising any of it from pre issued clips, but don't know if I can hold out that long.

I might be a little late on this. Just thought I'd mention that the track times are listed on itunes. Unlearn This Hatred is the shortest at 2.32. There are a couple of tracks over six minutes long; The Game being the longest track at 6.32.

Are these the standard or longer versions? That's pretty mental.
'Rising from the ashes of the legendary British post-punk unit Joy Division...' That's what I love about the Net. It's full of new info and original turns of phrase.
I'm gonna get the bog standard CD. I ain't shelling out for longer versions cos longer isn't necessarily better - I agree with Claude Flowers' comment that the Revenge tracks were better when streamlined. I may be in the minority but I always thought 'Mr Disco' and 'Vanishing Point' suffer from padding too... The 'full' versions will be on Youtube sooner or At A Later Date (see what I did there?) and sixty-five notes? Pop stars earn too much anyway.

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Er, don't use iTunes or their file formats well you probably know foobar2000 is the handiest Windows tool for getting FLAC into either AIFF or WAV formats before converting to Apple Lossless.

I think AL will retain the 24-bit quality but reduce the kHz from 96 to 44.1. There is an argument (probably a very valid one) that 96khz is complete overkill given an average person's hearing and a bit of an audiophile-y gimmick. Personally, I've never been able to tell the difference between a decently mastered recording at 44.1 or 96. That said, I do have a handful of albums in that format simply because they were available to buy and I thought why not. I predominantly use FLACs on my home PC and 320 kbps MP3s on my mobile phone. Android handily has native support to play FLACs but phone storage isn't quite enough yet (and mine has a 128GB microSD card).

Anyway, I am glad to hear that 'Music Complete' will be made available in this format; it might be total overkill but having studio master quality is pretty "neat" as our American friends say.

The only other JD/NO related albums to get this treatment so far are Unknown Pleasures and Closer two years ago on HDTracks and they were an ear-bending 192 kHz/24-bit.

They're still available on the main US HDTracks web site but not the UK one. It seems to be a recent thing with them but if you try to visit their '.com' page with a UK IP address it defaults you to '.co.uk' where the albums are unavailable. Territorial licensing I assume? They were listed with Warners/Rhino as the label when I first spotted them.

Would the original Joy Division master tapes have even been recorded at such a high resolution? I did find the whole 192 thing a bit suspect. At the end of the day as I'm finding with all these supposed 'HD' downloads if the mastering's crap then it doesn't matter how impressive the resolution is.

Thanks for the link.
'Back to making albums' - yeah, just keep knocking 'em out eh? What's your secret? I guess we'll never know.
You put La Roux BEFORE Iggy Pop. This is like putting Ringo before John Lennon. She has a chest and head. Voice. Actually this may annoy the purists but I like the collaborations: Jetstream needed Matronic to give it added sass, Turn My Way is one of my favourite songs on Get Ready and even the hugely unpopular Rock The Shack is like Michael Jackson: not as black as it's painted.
Low-Life EARLY eighties? It's massively overrated anyway. Gimme Technique, PCL and Melanie C's perfect shoulderblades instead. 'Face Up' is gross, 'Elegia' is like watching beer-stains dry and 'Subculture' is the joy of a fully-grown man discuss masturbation.
It's compared to 'Republic' - ewww!
When I read about 'a spoken-word piece', I immediately thought of PIL's 'The Room I Am In'. Only difference is, that was Lydon not Sumner. If it's anything like the cringeworthy RTP sleeve-notes...
'Hey now. Watcha doin'?
There's a cow outside that's mooin'
I'm feeling blue 'n'
Stuff. It's a nice time though
So
Don't wanna feel low
Wanna feel high, high, high!
Hi, high life, not goodbye.
WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!'
Quite honestly I think this'll be a decent album though. And if it ain't, there's a new PIL CD out round the same time. The fact they actually tried new stuff live (Singularity, Plastic, San Francisco) is encouraging. Maybe they feel they gotta make a special effort to prove themselves Hookless?

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Music Complete: live strings on five tracks.

Arranged and conducted by Joe Duddell. The same guy that arranged the strings for "St. Anthony" / "KW1" live at Tibet House previous year.

Aah, I see them now (with the help of a proxy).

Archive transfers from the tapes are now usually done at 192/24, though back in 2007 I'm less sure they would have done that, maybe 96/24 at best.

I'm pretty certain it wouldn't come out of the mastering stage at 192/24. So I do suspect the source of these.