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Pyrtwist		#51 Posted : 30 March 2013 19:49:47(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 402 Location: Iowa Thanks: 312 times Was thanked: 490 time(s) in 413 post(s)		I want it to sound like New Order. I want a belter at the beginning and a weird one at the end, 7 tracks inbetween. I expect it to be available about 4 years from now.
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bruno		#52 Posted : 24 April 2013 12:08:02(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 1 Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)		For myself... I'd urge everyone to head over to Music for Pleasure and follow the link to Nova Nova & Peter Hook. The two remixes of the song (SLABB REMIX and THIERRY CRISCIONE MIX, which is basically a different song) are exactly what I would like to hear from New Order-- add in Barney's singing and a bit of guitar here and I would be happy as can be. I don't need multiple guitarists or anything fancy... It astounds me, though, that Peter Hook and some random outfit can out-New Order New Order in terms of sound.

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Low Life		#53 Posted : 24 April 2013 23:46:28(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 58 Location: Driffield, East Yorkshire Thanks: 40 times Was thanked: 81 time(s) in 58 post(s)		What I'm hoping for more of: Big f**k-off thumping sequencers. (Everything's Gone Grey?) What I'm hoping for less off: Dull strumalong guitar tracks.

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effect returned		#54 Posted : 25 April 2013 05:35:35(UTC)
Rank: Young Offender Groups: Registered Joined: 27/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 47 Thanks: 7 times Was thanked: 73 time(s) in 48 post(s)		Something abstract and different hopefully, it largely depends on the mood of the band if they produce it themselves. Id like to see what would happen in the studio if they got a unknown producer outside of the mainstream pool of producers and maybe something new and distinctive might come from it.

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NewDawnRises		#55 Posted : 07 May 2013 13:47:23(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 12/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 11 Location: Dorset, England Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 11 post(s)		I'm with Sage on this one, I can't stand recent Barney lyrics or vocal style. Republic style vocals would be welcome (oops that's 20 years ago now). Better still they could go nuts and have no vocals and do something totally avant garde. Furthermore, if they can make an album as different as Republic is from Technique (I like both, btw) then they'll have done exceedingly well.

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isamu		#56 Posted : 27 May 2013 16:16:16(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 27/05/2013(UTC) Posts: 15 Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 15 post(s)		Sage_ wrote: Peter's gone, but.... Is this confirmed(serious question....haven't been keeping up with NO news)?

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Coops		#57 Posted : 27 May 2013 23:10:17(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 448 Location: Xiberia Thanks: 34 times Was thanked: 611 time(s) in 456 post(s)		isamu wrote: Sage_ wrote: Peter's gone, but.... Is this confirmed(serious question....haven't been keeping up with NO news)? For 6 years?

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isamu		#58 Posted : 04 June 2013 01:54:58(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 27/05/2013(UTC) Posts: 15 Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 15 post(s)		Coops wrote: isamu wrote: Sage_ wrote: Peter's gone, but.... Is this confirmed(serious question....haven't been keeping up with NO news)? For 6 years? well I knew he had left but I heard rumors that it was just a temporary leave. I just don't understand how two people can be close friends and work closely together for so many years and then turn around and become enemies. :(

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NotAMod		#59 Posted : 04 June 2013 03:58:21(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 671 Location: London, UK Thanks: 180 times Was thanked: 1105 time(s) in 673 post(s)		isamu wrote: I just don't understand how two people can be close friends and work closely together for so many years and then turn around and become enemies. :( I think enough info has come out over the past 6 years through various interviews and even Hooky's own Joy Division book to show they've not exactly been "close" friends for a long time. I would say realistically they've not been close friends (as they were in Salford at school) since the early to mid-80s. This image that they were best buddies hanging out all the time up until 2006 is pure romanticism/fiction on behalf of some fans. It highly likely that didn't happen, New Order were not like The Beatles in "Help!". There may have been some reconciliation around the end of the first hiatus in 1998 but even then I don't imagine they were swapping DVD boxsets and arranging BBQs together. Edited by user 04 June 2013 04:05:28(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Eimi		#60 Posted : 04 June 2013 05:03:31(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 688 Location: Japan Thanks: 528 times Was thanked: 875 time(s) in 688 post(s)		NotAMod wrote: isamu wrote: I just don't understand how two people can be close friends and work closely together for so many years and then turn around and become enemies. :( I think enough info has come out over the past 6 years through various interviews and even Hooky's own Joy Division book to show they've not exactly been "close" friends for a long time. I would say realistically they've not been close friends (as they were in Salford at school) since the early to mid-80s. This image that they were best buddies hanging out all the time up until 2006 is pure romanticism/fiction on behalf of some fans. It highly likely that didn't happen, New Order were not like The Beatles in "Help!". There may have been some reconciliation around the end of the first hiatus in 1998 but even then I don't imagine they were swapping DVD boxsets and arranging BBQs together. It's not just New Order; many bandmates (even those who are good friends) don't spend so much time with each other outside of work. They were not close friends until 2006---they were just co-workers. Co-workers are not always the same as 'friends'.
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Eimi		#61 Posted : 04 June 2013 05:09:16(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 688 Location: Japan Thanks: 528 times Was thanked: 875 time(s) in 688 post(s)		NotAMod wrote: Sage_ wrote: Peter's gone, but I hope the album isn't lacking his presence. Chuck in some bold, iconic Peter Hook-style basslines I say. Don't have them softly in the background like the last couple albums, I want to hear them loud and clear. If they aped Peter Hook style basslines on any new material they would invite all sorts of commentary that they can't move on without him and it would hang like an albatross around their necks. Not to mention Hooky himself would probably have a field day laying into them in interview about it; remember the "Round & Round" miming accusations? I'm sure the band have thought about this and would be surprised if any new material features that bass sound. He's no longer in the band, so the remaining members should have no obligation to include his 'presence', sound wise or otherwise. I do not intend to judge the band, until I actually hear something. That's also why the NME article about the 'Do we want music from NO' thing made me irritated--- the NME should not get to decide whether NO should write new music or not.
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isamu		#62 Posted : 04 June 2013 05:14:43(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 27/05/2013(UTC) Posts: 15 Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 15 post(s)		NotAMod wrote: isamu wrote: I just don't understand how two people can be close friends and work closely together for so many years and then turn around and become enemies. :( I think enough info has come out over the past 6 years through various interviews and even Hooky's own Joy Division book to show they've not exactly been "close" friends for a long time. I would say realistically they've not been close friends (as they were in Salford at school) since the early to mid-80s. This image that they were best buddies hanging out all the time up until 2006 is pure romanticism/fiction on behalf of some fans. It highly likely that didn't happen, New Order were not like The Beatles in "Help!". There may have been some reconciliation around the end of the first hiatus in 1998 but even then I don't imagine they were swapping DVD boxsets and arranging BBQs together. Thanks for the insight. Very interesting point of view. Point taken, though still a shame nonetheless :(

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Michael Monkhouse		#63 Posted : 04 June 2013 07:56:50(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Very fair comments in my humble opinion. I remember when Melody Maker was plugging that 1993 'Are they splitting up?' shenanigans and Gillian said, 'I don't understand how people make such a fuss about us splitting up when we were never that together in the first place. It's not like we all sat round the table drinking cuppasoup like Reeves and Mortimer's Slade in residence!' Certainly that was a low period for relations but I somehow got the feeling they were never all that 'together' - just my impression, mind.

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Charmingman93		#64 Posted : 04 June 2013 17:09:38(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 25/05/2013(UTC) Posts: 12 Location: Manchester Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 11 post(s)		I would first and foremost want it to sound like new order and be GOOD. But I hope it is an album that proves the haters wrong and make it sound great without Hooky's bass. I definitely would like a return to the electronics and less guitary stuff, but if the guitar stuff is great then I won't complain.

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Michael Monkhouse		#65 Posted : 05 June 2013 00:20:31(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Charmingman93 wrote: I would... want it to... be GOOD. Yes, somebody else said this too. Personally I would also prefer something that is, technically, 'good' as opposed to something that is what is known as 'bad'.

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Coops		#66 Posted : 05 June 2013 02:36:54(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 448 Location: Xiberia Thanks: 34 times Was thanked: 611 time(s) in 456 post(s)		Michael Monkhouse wrote: Charmingman93 wrote: I would... want it to... be GOOD. Yes, somebody else said this too. Personally I would also prefer something that is, technically, 'good' as opposed to something that is what is known as 'bad'. If they do decide to release an album which is known as 'bad' could they please label it up as Bad Lieutenent so I and others know to give it a miss. Thankyou please.

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Aracri		#67 Posted : 08 June 2013 04:03:29(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 346 Location: Rio de Janeiro Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 403 time(s) in 355 post(s)		I hope one (maybe two) brilliant track(s), a handful of enjoyable songs and, possibly, a throwaway piece, exactly as the last ones. To me it will be a positive balance. I do not count on a new "Low Life" or "Technique" since they came back in 1993. But it could be a little bit more electronic this time. Edited by user 08 June 2013 04:07:52(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
		Peter Who?

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Who's Joe?		#68 Posted : 09 June 2013 06:43:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 08/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 125 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Thanks: 22 times Was thanked: 147 time(s) in 125 post(s)		I'm actually hoping they eschew doing a full proper album and go right to a 4-5 song EP with the best 4 or 5 tunes they come up. It sounds to me from the interviews that ehy are at the very least considering this option. As for sound, take The Other Two's propensity for swooning snyth tracks and mix that with Phil's guitar work (similar to what he has done on the live BLT) throwing in Barney's vocals and workman like bass playing and hope it all comes out alright. If they gave you another Crystal, Someone Like You and Here to Stay, I would be pleased. I would agree, let's get away from the heavy guitar tracks, but don't lose the guitar completely -- it can complement the snyths so nicely as we already know.

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surface		#69 Posted : 07 December 2013 12:11:13(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 27/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 133 Location: Alderley Edge Was thanked: 199 time(s) in 139 post(s)		Some interesting tweets from Gillian at 1am last night. Omg am at spinal tap land and later let's do some fink new!! Oooo so rad??? Xxx Looks like the writing process is getting interesting.

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noorder		#70 Posted : 08 December 2013 15:20:48(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 18/09/2013(UTC) Posts: 10 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 10 time(s) in 10 post(s)		Ray Jesus wrote: JoanneB wrote: I really love Gillians voice - I think she's a far better singer than she gives herself credit for. Not that I'm trying to do Bernard out of a job mind. Would like her to sing more than she does at the moment. Will be interesting to see how a new album pans out when is it coming out? I personally cannot wait to add the new album to my growing collection of new order albums. I take it the talk of an EP was a load of bollox then?
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Linus Solanki		#71 Posted : 13 December 2013 08:06:03(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 10/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 629 Location: NYC Thanks: 59 times Was thanked: 1027 time(s) in 649 post(s)		They probably have so many ideas and stuff ready to record after the new year. Next year we should have something good to listen to.
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Mike C.		#72 Posted : 13 December 2013 13:50:56(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 132 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Thanks: 268 times Was thanked: 163 time(s) in 132 post(s)		I'll take a single at this point.
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Bill		#73 Posted : 14 December 2013 08:51:27(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Well it would be nice to have some news by the end of the year.Though i doubt we'll get any. Serious concerns about talk of an electronic feel to any new stuff. Brings up nightmares of any new stuff sounding like the godawful Guilt Is A Useless Emotion or Electronic's Raise The Pressure album . Ugh. Edited by user 14 December 2013 08:52:36(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Bill		#74 Posted : 19 December 2013 02:05:13(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Barney will be emerging from the studio to appear, amongst many other guests, on the Radcliffe & Maconie show tomorrow, Friday 20th December 1pm-4pm on BBC6 Music. Fingers crossed we'll get some news? Radcliffe & Maconie Show 20/12/13

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Linus Solanki		#75 Posted : 19 December 2013 05:32:11(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 10/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 629 Location: NYC Thanks: 59 times Was thanked: 1027 time(s) in 649 post(s)		Bill Turnbull wrote: Barney will be emerging from the studio to appear, amongst many other guests, on the Radcliffe & Maconie show tomorrow, Friday 20th December 1pm-4pm on BBC6 Music. Fingers crossed we'll get some news? Radcliffe & Maconie Show 20/12/13 Very good news to hear, lets hope there is some news about the new album in there, very good news to hear in time for Christmas.
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