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Mr Discography  
#276 Posted : 27 November 2022 05:35:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
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....and technically, it's not an instrumental.

Neither is 'Thieves Like Us Instrumental 'in that case.
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#277 Posted : 27 November 2022 06:39:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
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....and technically, it's not an instrumental.

Neither is 'Thieves Like Us Instrumental 'in that case.


Advantage, Mr D !
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#278 Posted : 27 November 2022 22:44:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Nice.

Sounds like the instrumental dub version that might have appeared on a 12" B-side had 'Love Vigilantes' ever been released as a single...

"Dub Vigilantes"?


i like it, its an excellent song,

and this instrumental would make a good start for an extended version,
to add the vocals back into..

hmmmmm........

======
update a very quick and dirty attempt
to add some lyrics back.

the instrumental is 6 bpm faster than the album version,
so the vocals sound sped up.




later
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#279 Posted : 29 November 2022 08:09:13(UTC)
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Just checked and my Movement box cost £89.22 and PCL cost £90.93



As part of this year's Black Friday sale, both the Movement and PC&L box sets were on sale in the US New Order store for $67.49 each (£56.24 by today's exchange rate) through yesterday (28 November) with free shipping. Buying BOTH boxes together was still $15 cheaper than the US pre-order price for the Low-Life box. So, if you want to save some coin, just stream the Low-life box for 10 months and then order it when Black Friday 2023 comes around! Cool

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#280 Posted : 05 December 2022 10:47:02(UTC)
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My as well post this while we're here (two tracks)

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#281 Posted : 15 December 2022 11:57:16(UTC)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8U6HNd18E

Another quick promo video for the Low Life def box.
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#282 Posted : 15 December 2022 15:24:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rorschach Go to Quoted Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8U6HNd18E

Another quick promo video for the Low Life def box.


Just noticed this myself.

Hooky mentions that the sleeve was sealed in tracing paper and you had to rip the sleeve open. He mentioned this back in one of his Jack chats a coup,e of years ago.
Don’t think that’s correct is it? Unless the first prints were like that? I think the sleeve was just a wraparound, wasn’t it? No damage required?


Also, it might just be me, but there’s something weird in the way Gillian is sitting that makes her arms look really short.
Anyone else think this?
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#283 Posted : 15 December 2022 15:46:08(UTC)
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I bought Low Life the week it came out and it was just a normal LP. I think HMV shrinkwrapped their albums but think Hook is as usual misremembering things. No wonder after all that went on.
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#284 Posted : 15 December 2022 16:45:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tapebias Go to Quoted Post
I bought Low Life the week it came out and it was just a normal LP. I think HMV shrinkwrapped their albums but think Hook is as usual misremembering things. No wonder after all that went on.


You didn't get the tracing paper outer sleeve? Like in the images here, which make the outer images of Steve and Gillian less clear than the inner sleeve images of Hook and Sumner?
No track listing for you on the back? No "Order New" titling on the front?
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#285 Posted : 16 December 2022 00:10:53(UTC)
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Hooky thinks the tracing paper had to be ripped open? Utter drivel
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#286 Posted : 16 December 2022 02:23:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: tapebias Go to Quoted Post
I bought Low Life the week it came out and it was just a normal LP. I think HMV shrinkwrapped their albums but think Hook is as usual misremembering things. No wonder after all that went on.


You didn't get the tracing paper outer sleeve? Like in the images here, which make the outer images of Steve and Gillian less clear than the inner sleeve images of Hook and Sumner?
No track listing for you on the back? No "Order New" titling on the front?



Yes it had all the above but didn't have to be ripped open. Should have said tracing paper sleeve.
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#287 Posted : 16 December 2022 02:35:22(UTC)
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Thanks all for confirming my suspicions, i.e. that it was a tracing paper sleeve, but didn't have to be defaced to get to the record.
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#288 Posted : 16 December 2022 04:16:37(UTC)
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It's quite possible his memory is being influenced by Factory's sandpaper sleeve for the return of the Durutti Column album.

"A very Factory thing to do..."

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#289 Posted : 16 December 2022 05:37:32(UTC)
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Well I'm not swearing to this, so please don't all "rip into" me (pun intended). But...

I may or may not have a memory of the tracing paper being joined inside the sleeve opening, with perforations. So you had to stick a ruler (or equivalent) in there to separate the front from the back.

Anyone got their original Factory vinyl to hand so they can check the neatness of the tracing paper inside the sleeve?

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#290 Posted : 16 December 2022 07:08:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
I may or may not have a memory of the tracing paper being joined inside the sleeve opening, with perforations. So you had to stick a ruler (or equivalent) in there to separate the front from the back.


No. Hook's memory is faulty here (as usual). The tracing paper was never joined or perforated. It folds neatly inside the cover and the photo credits are printed on the flap tucked into the back. I'm amazed they'd let a (former) band member state an incorrect fact like that in the video, unless the thinking is "don't correct him, leave it in there to make him look silly."

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#291 Posted : 16 December 2022 08:15:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
I'm amazed they'd let a (former) band member state an incorrect fact like that in the video, unless the thinking is "don't correct him, leave it in there to make him look silly."


Well, I doubt that any of the other three have even seen Hooky's contribution to pull him up on it.

It seems likely that the producers made the error, and I think it probably is a mistake rather than something deliberate. It's probably that the person creating the video, or interviewing Hooky, didn't know he was wrong. After all, the people behind the video possibly have never owned or seen the original vinyl LP (possibly too young, given that it's almost 40 years ago).

I mean, look at me, I'm as much of a super-fan as you're likely to find, and even I was a bit sketchy on the fine details of this release (I knew it was tracing paper, but doubted the 'ripping' part).

(Incidentally, I have never owned a vinyl copy of the LP. I had the standard cassette first, then the linen box variant, then the original Factory CD and finally the Rhino collectors CD when that was released years later).
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#293 Posted : 16 December 2022 09:14:53(UTC)
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Big review in the new issue of Uncut magazine (Neil Young on the cover...dated February 2023 already!). Stephen & Hooky interviewed, and review mentions one of the early rough instrumental jams on the extras disc is an early version of Bizarre Love Triangle
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#294 Posted : 16 December 2022 13:49:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: aysie Go to Quoted Post
Big review in the new issue of Uncut magazine (Neil Young on the cover...dated February 2023 already!). Stephen & Hooky interviewed, and review mentions one of the early rough instrumental jams on the extras disc is an early version of Bizarre Love Triangle

Thanks. Will look out for that issue in town tomorrow. Bit odd they didn't save a BLT demo til the Brotherhood box
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#295 Posted : 17 December 2022 01:00:51(UTC)
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I think it's an early jam from the Low-life sessions, though. The review says: "Most surprising, though, and demonstrating how prolific they were, might be “Untitled 1”, a discarded writing session workout that sounds very much like it is about to become “Bizarre Love Triangle”, key track to New Order’s next LP, 1986’s Brotherhood."
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#296 Posted : 22 December 2022 09:20:15(UTC)
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There’s a couple of tracks available on Spotify.

Love Vigilantes (TV pitch instrumental edit) and The Perfect Kiss (Writing Session Recording).
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#297 Posted : 05 January 2023 10:08:25(UTC)
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#298 Posted : 05 January 2023 13:43:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
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....and technically, it's not an instrumental.

Neither is 'Thieves Like Us Instrumental 'in that case.


I see this post every time I load this page of the thread Happy

I think an important distinction to make regarding the vocals on "Love Vigilantes TV Pitch Instrumental" is that they're a melodic element to the song. Barney's voice on "Thieves Like Us
Instrumental" is more like a voice sample. I would consider "Murder" an instrumental, for instance, even though it contains voices.
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#299 Posted : 05 January 2023 19:24:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
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....and technically, it's not an instrumental.

Neither is 'Thieves Like Us Instrumental 'in that case.


I see this post every time I load this page of the thread Happy

I think an important distinction to make regarding the vocals on "Love Vigilantes TV Pitch Instrumental" is that they're a melodic element to the song. Barney's voice on "Thieves Like Us
Instrumental" is more like a voice sample. I would consider "Murder" an instrumental, for instance, even though it contains voices.



Do you mean the "Come in" part by Bernard on start of TLU instrumental? If so, yeah i'd agree. But i assumed Mr Discography was referring to the , admittedly slightly low in the mix , " Ooh ooh ooh-ooh/ Ooh ooh ooh-ooh" at around 5.35 to 5.45 ish on the 12" instrumental.
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#300 Posted : 06 January 2023 01:21:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
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....and technically, it's not an instrumental.

Neither is 'Thieves Like Us Instrumental 'in that case.


I see this post every time I load this page of the thread Happy

I think an important distinction to make regarding the vocals on "Love Vigilantes TV Pitch Instrumental" is that they're a melodic element to the song. Barney's voice on "Thieves Like Us
Instrumental" is more like a voice sample. I would consider "Murder" an instrumental, for instance, even though it contains voices.



Do you mean the "Come in" part by Bernard on start of TLU instrumental? If so, yeah i'd agree. But i assumed Mr Discography was referring to the , admittedly slightly low in the mix , " Ooh ooh ooh-ooh/ Ooh ooh ooh-ooh" at around 5.35 to 5.45 ish on the 12" instrumental.


Yeah, the "Come in". I forgot about the "Oohs". Definitely not an instrumental! The same goes for "Turning Point' by Electronic.

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