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#151 Posted : 10 September 2021 11:07:51(UTC)
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I was a bit disappointed that he regrets his ‘1980s excess’ though.
I think the four of them (well, not really Gillian) filling up with booze and drugs probably contributed heavily to the art they created.



And it wasn't just the 1980's but not sure if their road of excess lead to the palace of wisdom though.

Without being puritanical, it probably lead to Gretton's and Wilson's early deaths, several marriage and family break ups, reckless business decisions (Fac & Hac), unprofessional live performances (ok it was funny at the time). It's the strangest business when you're given as much drink as you want before performing then paid as well.

I'm trying to remember which musician said he'd never seen so many drugs as back stage at New Order (USA tours). Lemmy?

OK, I'll get my slippers now.



John Lydon said on their tour together (USA 1989) that "New Order take more drugs than the Grateful Dead".

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#152 Posted : 12 September 2021 06:25:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Yeah. It was good.

I especially liked how Sumner was particularly proud of Blue Monday. So he should be.

I was a bit disappointed that he regrets his ‘1980s excess’ though.
I think the four of them (well, not really Gillian) filling up with booze and drugs probably contributed heavily to the art they created.

I’m guessing his 1980s was far more fun than mine.

He should own that. I know I would.



Thought it was worth an upload to Yous Tubs so

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#153 Posted : 12 September 2021 09:12:16(UTC)
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Yeah. It was good.

I especially liked how Sumner was particularly proud of Blue Monday. So he should be.

I was a bit disappointed that he regrets his ‘1980s excess’ though.
I think the four of them (well, not really Gillian) filling up with booze and drugs probably contributed heavily to the art they created.

I’m guessing his 1980s was far more fun than mine.

He should own that. I know I would.



Thought it was worth an upload to Yous Tubs so



I remember listening to the show and Chris said he lives on the same street as Bernard
I promise to make you so alive that the fall of dust on furniture will deafen you. Nina Cassian
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#154 Posted : 15 November 2021 12:49:34(UTC)
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I'm struggling to see anything that's 50% off. Have I misunderstood?
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#155 Posted : 15 November 2021 13:55:47(UTC)
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Scroll right down to bottom and click on Black Friday sale or try this Link

Edit: oh actually I can only see a few items that are 50% off. But the advert does say “Up” to 50% off.So not all then. In fact not much at all is 50% off.


Oh that reminds me, must get some of those PCL Xmas tree decorations. I keep thinking about getting some each year but never get round to it.

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#156 Posted : 16 November 2021 07:46:10(UTC)
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Scroll right down to bottom and click on Black Friday sale or try this Link

Edit: oh actually I can only see a few items that are 50% off. But the advert does say “Up” to 50% off.So not all then. In fact not much at all is 50% off.


Oh that reminds me, must get some of those PCL Xmas tree decorations. I keep thinking about getting some each year but never get round to it.


thanks for the reminder, the christmas stuff is cool.

might try to get some pins, cards, and assorted stuff this time around.

later
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#157 Posted : 18 November 2021 08:25:41(UTC)
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I was a bit disappointed that he regrets his ‘1980s excess’ though.
I think the four of them (well, not really Gillian) filling up with booze and drugs probably contributed heavily to the art they created.



And it wasn't just the 1980's but not sure if their road of excess lead to the palace of wisdom though.

Without being puritanical, it probably lead to Gretton's and Wilson's early deaths, several marriage and family break ups, reckless business decisions (Fac & Hac), unprofessional live performances (ok it was funny at the time). It's the strangest business when you're given as much drink as you want before performing then paid as well.

I'm trying to remember which musician said he'd never seen so many drugs as back stage at New Order (USA tours). Lemmy?

OK, I'll get my slippers now.



John Lydon said on their tour together (USA 1993) that "New Order take more drugs than the Grateful Dead".



I think that was 1989, The Monsters Of Alternative Rock: PIL, New Order, Sugarpubes. My girlfriend's uncle was the sound engineer. Not the shit one.
It always cracks me up how New Order go on about how many drugs they took and how many awesome influences they cite - then they come up with shite like Liar.
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#158 Posted : 18 November 2021 11:00:18(UTC)
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Wacky. Clicked on the thread and saw my post at the top of the page. Recognized my mistake straight away and edited it. Then scolled down to see you calling me out Black eye Happy .

Sometimes you can be funny, Monkhouse.
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#159 Posted : 18 November 2021 11:30:21(UTC)
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I am fucking hilarious. And the people who disagree are always people who'd rather have their eyes gouged out than get up on stage themselves.
1989 was an awesome year for alternative music. Top albums from PIL, New Order, Sugarpubes, Siouxsie, Depeche and the Cure. And in the mainstrean, Macca, whose solo career is more up and down than my mother outside a church, finally hit it with Flowers in the Dirt and his first worldwide tour in a decade. What more do you want, apart from a Spice Girl and a shower attachment?

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#160 Posted : 18 November 2021 15:45:43(UTC)
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Sometimes you can be funny, Monkhouse.


He can.

I like having him around.
Not that we have any choice, eh? Smile

The board would be a little more dull without you, Michael.

Now don’t let it go to your head (ooh-er, Missus).
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#161 Posted : 19 November 2021 03:00:49(UTC)
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Oh, stop it. What're you like, eh?
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#162 Posted : 19 November 2021 07:26:54(UTC)
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Sometimes you can be funny, Monkhouse.


He can.

I like having him around.
Not that we have any choice, eh? Smile

The board would be a little more dull without you, Michael.

Now don’t let it go to your head (ooh-er, Missus).


Yeah agree, keeps us grounded with our obsessions. Nice to get an alternative take on things.

No more praise though, he’s had enough now. In fact we need someone to come on to say what a wanker he is to balance things up!
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ROCKET MICK on 22/11/2021(UTC)
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#163 Posted : 19 November 2021 09:24:54(UTC)
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I think he is a total and utter fucking cunt.
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In fact we need someone to come on to say what a wanker he is to balance things up!


It's OK to say my name.
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#165 Posted : 02 December 2021 04:56:11(UTC)
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The "most listened on Spotify this year" thing is all over social media nowadays, haven't seen NO among people in my feed yet though
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#166 Posted : 15 December 2021 17:56:54(UTC)
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Not the first time Gillian has had an accident like this. Please be careful!

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#167 Posted : 31 March 2022 10:01:57(UTC)
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So there's this: ChappyTweet
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#168 Posted : 31 March 2022 10:32:39(UTC)
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it will still be a long time till we get some proper new music or maybe sooner than we think, lets see
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#169 Posted : 31 March 2022 13:44:36(UTC)
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Tom seems quite motivated writing wise at the moment (solo stuff, Sea Fever) so hoping he'll rub off on the rest of the band especially Bernard!
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#170 Posted : 29 April 2022 04:05:02(UTC)
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New video upload.


They forgot to do the "whoop" lyrics at around 3:17, 3:30 and 3:49.
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#171 Posted : 29 April 2022 10:44:19(UTC)
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New video upload.


They forgot to do the "whoop" lyrics at around 3:17, 3:30 and 3:49.



I hear this bit (around the 2m mark) as:

It stems from this first estrangement
No one have I ever despised

not "sprung"
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#172 Posted : 29 April 2022 22:26:44(UTC)
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New video upload.


They forgot to do the "whoop" lyrics at around 3:17, 3:30 and 3:49.



I hear this bit (around the 2m mark) as:

It stems from this first estrangement
No one have I ever despised

not "sprung"


Agreed. It’s definitely ‘stems’.

There’s one remix (can’t remember which one) where that bit is really clear and it also sounds like ‘disarrangement’ to me.

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#173 Posted : 30 April 2022 01:29:20(UTC)
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Agreed. It’s definitely ‘stems’.

There’s one remix (can’t remember which one) where that bit is really clear and it also sounds like ‘disarrangement’ to me.



Just checked. It's the Martin Buttrich remix, here (at around the 1m26s mark):


It certainly sounds like 'disarrangement' to me.
Opinions?


Also, listening to that remix, I'm starting to wonder if the line that I always thought was 'a halo that covers my eyes' is actually 'a halo that colours my eyes'.
Both lyrics would fit; one blocking his view, the other either skewing the image or making his eyes appear different.

Could I have been wrong all these years?

At least I'm not alone if I am; that lyric video says 'cover'. :-D



Just editing this post to state how much I bloody love this track. It still sounds modern, fresh and just damn awesome. One of the band's very best. Would love them to start performing it live again.

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#174 Posted : 30 April 2022 01:39:07(UTC)
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"stems" and "disarrangement" for me, Clive.
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#175 Posted : 30 April 2022 01:50:07(UTC)
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"stems" and "disarrangement" for me, Clive.


At least I'm not alone.

And where do you stand on the 'covers' / 'colours' issue? Big Grin

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