You're fucking quick, in the words of my wife. Yeah, I just remembered and was about to edit the post. There's Murder too.
I like to think of TOTP as the Thieves vid. I also like to think about the Spice Girls in the nude (or with my clothes on).

I know that art is very subjective, but in the case of this video, I really just don't get it.

It's a weird thing 'art', isn't it? If you commission an artist to produce something like this (a video, a short film, an LP sleeve etc.), you're really giving them carte blanche to do whatever they want, no questions asked (unless you give them a certain remit). It's not like asking someone to fit a new shower in your bathroom; there's no wrong way to 'make art', is there?
If you don't like the finished product, it could be said that 'you just don't get what the artist was trying to achieve', 'you're misinterpreting it' etc.

Now I'm not saying that the director has half-arsed this video (he/she may well have spent a long time planning this in fine detail), but it seems to me that it would be very easy to come up with the idea of this in a very short space of time.

"Get a girl. Make her dance spasmodically whilst filming her.
Throw in a slight bit of 80s styling (after all, the song's from that era).
And, Hey Presto, instant video..."

I don't want to criticise the director too much here. He/She may have put their heart and soul into this, after all.
But, to me, it all appears to be a little lazy and lacks any real imagination.

But, that's just me. We are all different, and I'm sure others may like it.
Not for me though.


Oh, and thinking of other singles without videos, 'Procession' is one. Shamberg did do one for 'Everything's Gone Green', but not for its partner. Maybe he thought that 'Procession' was a b-side (seen as if it was 'relegated' to that status on 'Substance 1987').

Re Fotz (fucking quote function's arsed it up again), Ceremony is the one with an Oriental guy in a box and then out of a box, used for the cover.
Re Orange, I'd say the EGG vid counts for EGG/Prosexion.
I like to meditate after sex. Just thinking outside the box.
As I said, I view these things with my tongue in my other cheek cos they have fuck all to do with the period and actual band. They don't really count and are a poor substitute for newbies.
I've always wondered why the original Blue Monday was never compiled after the song was so ubermilked and successful, and they had fucking shitloads of possibilties. Someone on these forums suggested it was cos of the dodgy military imagery, but I'm not convinced. Maybe it was just too clunky. I guess we'll never know.

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The video for Ceremony created for A Collection/Item is a homeless Asian man in the subway. A still image was used for the cover of the DVD.

I also tend of think of the TOPT appearance for Thieves Like Us as the video.

The video for Shellshock is a collage of images from Pumped Full Of Drugs and the shoot for The Perfect Kiss. If they'd done a standard movie tie-in video using scenes from Pretty In Pink they might have scored a Top 40 hit over here.

The official video for EGG was done in February 2007. More stock footage.

I think Murder is retroactively considered a single, even though Factory proper didn't put it out. It came out on Benelux and was only available as an import. I'm not sure how you'd make a video for that without using 2001: A Space Odyssey and Caligula.

I'm not bothered by these new videos. Adding a visual element to the song to goose streaming revenue for the band isn't a bad thing. I'm sure they're done on a tight budget.

Well it was included on the Substance CD, which omitted a bunch of Bsides, including a 'proper' one (Mesh). Again, I'm not sure what kinda vid the could make, and I'd have the usual reservations, especially at this stage. Confusion was a tacky vid, but at least it caught a moment in the band's actual development. These things are pretty surplus.
I don't give a fuck about them getting money, either. Given the fact their output makes J D Salinger look like the Beatles, they're fucking lucky to have the yachts and tanks.

What sounds like shit, looks like epilepsy and gives priests a boner? TikTok.

Well TikTok is neither here nor there, as far as I can see.

I think that's a clip from Jimmy Fallon's talk show.
Jimmy's "cards" have been covered over by NO sleeves (by a clever computer person) and the original music has been overdubbed with NO tracks.

So a NO fan has hijacked the original clip.
My only complaint is that the AOC sound clip is too short.


On a side note, NO have officially joined TikTok recently, although I'd be surprised if the band members know much about it.

Wait, John Travolta is a Venn diagram?

The community is bemused by the announcement that New Order now has a TikTok account/channel (whatever the fuck it is). I saw this doctored clip on icedarpeggios Twitter, and thought I'd pass it off as a preview of the compelling content that we can expect from the unholy union.

I apologize for the distress I have caused.

Been doing them every Tuesday for the best part of a year. Last week he talked about not wanting to be 65.

Retweeted by Gillian:

Good little interview that Chris Hawkins one . Hawkins asked some good questions. Look it up on catch up about 1 hour 40 in.

And it wasn't just the 1980's but not sure if their road of excess lead to the palace of wisdom though.

Without being puritanical, it probably lead to Gretton's and Wilson's early deaths, several marriage and family break ups, reckless business decisions (Fac & Hac), unprofessional live performances (ok it was funny at the time). It's the strangest business when you're given as much drink as you want before performing then paid as well.

I'm trying to remember which musician said he'd never seen so many drugs as back stage at New Order (USA tours). Lemmy?

OK, I'll get my slippers now.