That was an aside in general comment about anything or anyone in general. Not necessarily this topic, as I said in my last post. Was more referring to the state of our stupid world at this moment, politically. USA and UK...and how easily people can be led to think one way and it not be what it seems. Ie Trump and certain assholes in UK office. I'm from America and we are heavily dealing with the onslaught of certain kind of Trump supporters that are..or WERE.. closet racists, homophobes, etc and once kept it hush til now because Trumps making it seem like it's okay to be a bigot asshole.

Then I threw in my Ian comment because I've always thought Ian had some creepy side. Not really sure why I mentioned that, because it's really not pertaining to NO itself. But still mightve rubbed off on the members but in terms of just aesthetic interest and shock value shit. Was never an Ian fan and was always a New Order fan. But never could fully get into Joy Division. No offense.
And that was in my head at the time and probably should not have put that in there with that.

I've heard they all have tramp stamp swastika tattoos.