Awesome but the price tag is still a stumbling block. That's a lot of beer money.

The PCL box is already withdrawn fro Fnac webpage, but they know announce the four EPs, starting 15th of november.

running order :

Blue monday 15th of november
Confusion 22th of november
TLU 29th of november
Murder 6th of december

So my uncirculated tape of the 20 minute Ultraviolence from Hull March 1982 might still be required

Does it sound better than the one in circulation?

This is going to be THE box set, can’t wait, greatest album ever

24 January 2020 will be Factory's 42nd anniversary - so it would be a good release date to hit!

‘Factory Shorts’?

The only thing I know by that name is the VHS with the original BM video.

Ah, ok.

‘Ceremony’ from ‘A Factory Video’ was included on ‘Movement’ Definitive Edition.
‘Your Silent Face’ from ‘A Factory Outing’ looks to be on the new set.

What isn’t included on either set from those VHS’s is ‘In A Lonely Place’ and the ‘Prime 5-8-6’ video from ‘AFV’, the Hacienda footage (again using ‘Prime 5-8-6’ soundtrack) from ‘AFO’ and the BM video from ‘Shorts’.

I’m kind of hoping that the respective promo videos are featured on a ‘Substance 1987’ Definitive Edition.
This could include all videos for the singles, and would include the original BM video, plus the ‘reimagined’ videos that Shamberg did for ‘Ceremony’, ‘EGG’ and ‘Temptation’.

I wonder if the filming of the Kilkenny gig was just someone at the back of the hall zooming in and out and across back and forth now and then ( like the Peppermint Lounge vid) ? Or was it professionally filmed by the BBC but then they later deemed it not good enough to broadcast? Bernard was a little drunk by the sounds of it though there’s great performances of Confusion & Temptation on the audio. The BBC, if they did film it, felt it was better to just air the audio, not the video?

The Hacienda July 83 inclusion on one of the DVDs should be great as if the whole gig was filmed like the clips shown on the Play At Home doc, there’s multiple camera angles, not just one camera at the back zooming in and out. Should compliment the Play At Home doc well on that same disc.Though there will be a little repetition of Thieves Like Us, Lonesome Tonight and Temptation across the Play At Home doc and the whole Hac July 83 gig video.

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Still kind of reeling from this.

3 complete gigs!!!

2 of them from New Order’s own ‘back garden’ and the other also considered an absolute classic.

Seriously can’t wait for this to come out.

Yep, probably out of all the box sets they're planning to do this is the most important to me.Would like a Low-life one but if they don't get round to that it's not the end of the world.Depends on sales maybe? I mean, does anyone know how many Movement definitive boxes sold to date? If they're not selling then it's doubtful there'll be more after the P,C & L one? A lot of the planning etc for this one was done and readied before the Movement box release? But not in the case of a Low-life one? Or maybe they're to the hell with it and they're going to do the whole series of boxes regardless of poor sales? Or maybe it doesn't take too many sales to recoup production costs.I don't know how things work business wise with things like this.

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