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#76 Posted : 05 October 2018 15:32:31(UTC)
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As usual, this kind of crappy link does not work...
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#77 Posted : 05 October 2018 23:11:08(UTC)
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#78 Posted : 06 October 2018 05:27:50(UTC)
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OK, well i didn't post my Decades download link on here previously because i just assumed it would get taken down or the site would get hassle from Sky and/or New Order's record company but i have shared it by PM to everyone on this thread who's asked after a download.Surprised that YouTube upload i did hasn't been removed by WMG or whoever it is that always removes stuff.

Had an idea today to download my YouTube upload of Decades using 4K VideoDownloader with the hope that i would end up with the file in a much smaller and manageable size.And it was a success.I now have the doc in a 1GB file.My original MPEG2 capture to my laptop from my tv box ended up with the file being a massive 5GB.Don't know why it ended up like that.So anyway, i have now uploaded the much smaller 1GB version to MediaFire.If you haven't already seen the doc or downloaded the original 5GB file try this.Or if you've already downloaded the 5GB version but would like it in just 1GB try the link.As i've said in the PMs to people i've shared the 5GB to, the picture quality isn't the best as i was unable to record it in HD.It's in standard definition but it's pretty good.

New Order:Decades 1GB MediaFire download

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#79 Posted : 06 October 2018 09:04:53(UTC)
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Thanks for the link, appreciate it.

later
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#80 Posted : 06 October 2018 09:07:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
As i've said in the PMs to people i've shared the 5GB to, the picture quality isn't the best as i was unable to record it in HD.It's in standard definition but it's pretty good.

New Order:Decades 1GB MediaFire download


Really, really appreciate your work on this!

- Jeb
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#81 Posted : 06 October 2018 12:21:16(UTC)
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I also captured the audios of the 5 songs aired in Decades.Created a kind of mini album.One or two i didn't quite get how i wanted, for example at the end of Plastic there's audible bit of Bernard talking in the doc after the song finishes and a microsecond is missing from the start of Your Silent Face.But they're good to transfer to your phone or whatever and listen on the go.I uploaded the zip to MediaFire

5 songs from Decades doc
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#82 Posted : 10 October 2018 00:56:12(UTC)
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I was glad to hear the history over again. Saville looks like he wants to create another cover and some singles covers,so they need to get crackin' on the next releases.
The show is good , but I prefer the current shows with more magnificent ,or superlative visuals.
A cd of all the songs is needed, 5 is not enough.
Bernard is not yet hefty, but he is occssionally chubby enough to try yoga, stretching, and switching from desserts to fruit .He could do cartwheels and breakdancing if he had a trainer
Bernard's voice would be a great replacement for Attenborough in future BBC documentaries explaining about animals ,making funny quips.
New order are so adult like, what if they had put out heavy metal music for teens and 40 years later still putting out heavy metal for teens,it would be sad , unless they kept the TBTHOG look Thank God NO was not a band with makeup and silly costumes
We're like kestrels
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#83 Posted : 10 October 2018 11:14:11(UTC)
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Now that you've changed your forum avatar Fotzepolitic, it seems an appropriate time to ask, what was the previous one?
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#84 Posted : 10 October 2018 11:17:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
OK, well i didn't post my Decades download link on here previously because i just assumed it would get taken down or the site would get hassle from Sky and/or New Order's record company but i have shared it by PM to everyone on this thread who's asked after a download.Surprised that YouTube upload i did hasn't been removed by WMG or whoever it is that always removes stuff.

Had an idea today to download my YouTube upload of Decades using 4K VideoDownloader with the hope that i would end up with the file in a much smaller and manageable size.And it was a success.I now have the doc in a 1GB file.My original MPEG2 capture to my laptop from my tv box ended up with the file being a massive 5GB.Don't know why it ended up like that.So anyway, i have now uploaded the much smaller 1GB version to MediaFire.If you haven't already seen the doc or downloaded the original 5GB file try this.Or if you've already downloaded the 5GB version but would like it in just 1GB try the link.As i've said in the PMs to people i've shared the 5GB to, the picture quality isn't the best as i was unable to record it in HD.It's in standard definition but it's pretty good.

New Order:Decades 1GB MediaFire download


Nice one - appreciate the effort mate Smile
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#85 Posted : 10 October 2018 11:49:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonathan Go to Quoted Post
Now that you've changed your forum avatar Fotzepolitic, it seems an appropriate time to ask, what was the previous one?


Previous one was a screengrab/still from the Restless video.

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#86 Posted : 10 October 2018 11:53:42(UTC)
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Sky have now had the Decades film blocked from YouTube.Surprised they didn’t block it immediately, it was up for 4 days. Ah well, for those that missed it there’s always the download link.
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#87 Posted : 10 October 2018 12:05:03(UTC)
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Quote:
2) I wonder why the archive footage (Granada Reports, The Perfect Kiss video, Blue Monday 1988 video etc.) was so poor. Surely they could've sourced higher quality clips? The Shadowplay footage was in a terrible state, quality-wise. It looked like it had been taken off the 'Substance 1977-1988' promo video that's been bootlegged numerous times.


The Granada footage was blown up and cropped to 16:9, it was originally 4:3. That will reduce the quality somewhat.
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#88 Posted : 11 October 2018 14:09:55(UTC)
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found a better source but still SD. Shame the thing is shot in hipstervision aka horrible low contrast because dats cool wiv da kids now. Buy a great lens and wreck the picture in post for internet points.

peter saville is excellent value as always. he should do an autobiography and read it for audible.

and great the see the youngsters in this. if you're reading this i love you all!
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#89 Posted : 17 October 2018 07:35:37(UTC)
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Thanks, but don't make jokes about Melanie C.
'This is a band that rarely looks backwards.' This one always cracks me up.

First single JD covers 7", 12", rereleased 12", Record Day JD versions rerelease
Still
Rereleased JD first Peel Session 12" 1, Peel session 12" 2, Peel Sessions LP, rereleased LP in new cover, included in Complete BBC Sessions
Substance 87
Atmosphere 88, Substance 88; Blue Monday 88
London reissues 93; 'NOStory' DVD, Radio 1 and MTV retros; London remix Spooky when the band aren't even talking to each other
True Faith-94, Best Of
1963-95, Blue Monday-95, Rest Of, Love Will Tear Us Apart-95, Permanent
Everything's Gone Green Advent
Video 586
Heart and Soul
Remastered Preston live, Bains Douches live, Fractured Box (Preston live and Bains Douches live), Re Fractured Box (including Preston live, Les Bains Douches live so Fractured Box)
International, Retro
12" x 12"
Best remixes (didital)
Singles 2005, Singles 2016
Best of Electronic
JD CD remasters; JD DVD interviews
The Best Of JD 2008
2009 fucked up NO remasters, 'corrected' remasters, remastered again in 2015
Total
+ / -
JD CD remasters remastered for vinyl
LTM resissue Revenge and both Other Two LPs (all three crap in the first place)
Current projects, three years on from last 'un: revisiting a JD track, and possibly a fourth box set

How do they do it? What's their secret? I guess we'll never know.


I can't find the original thread for Total. Was it on this version of the forum?
Anyway, just for Mr MM, some news about TOTAL on vinyl:


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#90 Posted : 17 October 2018 11:25:25(UTC)
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An odd thing to release, IMHO.

I don't really understand this vinyl revival* thing. You would think that people collecting vinyl these days are generally buying classic 'studio' LPs and wouldn't really be interested in getting a 'best of' compilation. Especially when this particular one was basically just a shameless 'cash-in', when there had been other (better) compilations released by the band. If they were releasing 'Substance 1987', I could totally see people wanting to buy it on vinyl (if they collect vinyl*).
But 'Total'? Seems very odd.



* My theory (such as it is) of why vinyl is popular comes down to record labels trying desperately to think of ways to get people of my age-bracket (35-60 year olds), who have the most disposable income, to buy the same album over and over again. They know that people like me have probably:

1) bought the original LP on vinyl and / or tape;
2) upgraded it to CD when it came out;
3) bought the remastered version when it was released; then finally
4) bought the 'super-deluxe 16 disc, holographic cover, extra tracks (and a tacky badge)' version.

They therefore have to think of further clever ways (see above examples) to get us to keep buying the same old stuff, from now until the day we die.

So, hey presto, they start telling the world (rightly or wrongly) that vinyl (with all it's pops and crackles and hissing through the stylus) sounds 'warmer' and 'better' and just how John, Paul, George and Ringo would've heard it in Abbey Road, or whatever. So we all go 'mmm - vinyl! Must. Buy. 'Technique'. For. 5th. Time!'.

Now, I'm not saying that 'vinyl' is a con.
It is what it is; a viable format for releasing music on. If you think it sounds better than digital media, no amount of persuasion is going to convince you otherwise (and vice versa).
No - I like vinyl. Not enough to buy another turntable to replace the one that died on me in the mid-90s, but still.

However, the whole 'getting punters to buy vinyl again' smacks of a gimmick just to sell us the same LPs once again.

Rant over. You'd think I'd feel better about it now. I don't.

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#91 Posted : 17 October 2018 14:54:59(UTC)
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I don't collect vinyl because I think it sounds better. After years as a DJ, playing in bands, and working around jet engines, my hearing is sh*t.

I buy vinyl because I like having a tactile, physical object. I like having large-scale artwork and liner notes. I like interacting with the music when I have to flip the side. It keeps me connected to the music where so many people view it as a disposable commodity. I have to make a conscious choice of what I want to listen to from start to finish, instead of streaming whatever playlist and never giving it a second thought. It helps me to be more selective. It helps me pay attention.

And yes, there's a degree of nostalgia cash-in, but I don't mind. I will never get tired of buying a "new" New Order album.
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#92 Posted : 18 October 2018 08:34:29(UTC)
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Yeah - that makes total sense.
I too love having a physical product to look at when listening to the music. Which is kind of why I kind of dislike (but still subscribe to) Apple Music / Spotify.
I buy a tonne of deluxe edition CD sets (much to my wife’s annoyance), just so I can hold the items in my hands.
I don’t need to buy them as I can listen to them via streaming services, but I want to ‘own’ these products.

I can also appreciate looking at large scale artwork, especially with New Order’s Saville sleeves. I still love browsing my old vinyl collection (despite not buying any new vinyl). If the much rumoured NO LP box sets come out and include vinyl, I will probably make an exception and buy them, vinyl and all. In fact, if there was a choice between CD only and a CD / Vinyl combo, I’d probably choose the latter just to have the lovely sleeves.

What I’m complaining about, I guess, is really just the marketing gimmick that I see companies selling us. Where you have people telling us that the music is better on vinyl and it’s how the artists meant you to hear it etc.

Edited by user 18 October 2018 12:33:36(UTC)  | Reason: Typos, again...

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#93 Posted : 18 October 2018 10:46:57(UTC)
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Meh.Don’t think I’ll bother buying the Total vinyl edition.Didn’t bother buying the CD either. I like vinyl though and bought a great new Pro-Ject turntable a while back to replace an old 80s Technics one which had become incapable of playing 45s at the correct speed. Some music sounds better on vinyl and some sounds better on CD or
FLAC files, kind of tired of that old debate. It is indeed nice to have the big 12” sleeve and putting the needle on the
record.

Total came across as “What can we come up with that hasn’t been done before with a New Order greatest hits? I know, let’s put Joy Division and New Order on the same album!”

I guess a hits compilation with Electronic and New Order on the same album would be the next logical step. That’s never been done before. Or a Other Two and Monaco on the same album.

I jest. But the release of Total on vinyl comes across also a bit as just a thing to keep interest in New Order bubbling under. Or that the mooted box set has been delayed/abandoned and something else is needed to fill a gap in releases.

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#94 Posted : 19 October 2018 08:30:32(UTC)
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Yep - it does smack a little of trying to keep the embers of interest alive.

Just release those box sets already...
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#95 Posted : 19 October 2018 09:39:37(UTC)
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I also captured the audios of the 5 songs aired in Decades.Created a kind of mini album.One or two i didn't quite get how i wanted, for example at the end of Plastic there's audible bit of Bernard talking in the doc after the song finishes and a microsecond is missing from the start of Your Silent Face.But they're good to transfer to your phone or whatever and listen on the go.I uploaded the zip to MediaFire

5 songs from Decades doc



Nice work - cheers!
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