I love learning more about our favorite band thru all of these great reviews by Dennis and every comment.

Recent thoughts about the wonderfulness of New Order

Maybe some day New Order will be taught in schools, at least two or three semesters, like calculus, with wonderful professors

Where are the Guitar magazine articles about Bernard?, as he learned quickly ,and always added a great variety of well played wonderful guitar parts, but generally is overlooked for his brilliant guitar. Maybe Bernard should write the best shredding song ever and put the methhead guitarists on notice.

Same lack of reverence for his voice and lyrics is painful ,too.

Star Test with Bernard -- Awesome , fabulous , but not allowing it to be seen anymore is mean spirited

A New Order /Joy Division Magazine Book with lots of photos and art and important and fun stuff.,similar to the magbook tributes to stars that passed like Bowie and Tom Petty,or about fun stuff like Sherlock,Shakespeare, the Royals, Spitfires, ,Vikings, Lizards, etc.

A box set of all the videos, films, interviews , star test, etc.would be ok ,too

Peter Saville Soundtrack + Who's Joe? reviews now posted.

Soundtrack (aka Ambient) is the only NO track I've never heard at all. Ever. Like, never ever (sorry that was All Saints and disrespectful to the Spice Girls). It came out (like Neil Tennant) at the height of my non-interest, was never included on an album, and never made BubeTube either.

Hey, thanx for that! I'd never cum across it.

Loving these reviews (as well as kic and mm comments!) WFTSC. Is with9ut doubt NO worse offering but a strange one after thoughts on it years past. When it was released at the time I did rather enjoy it. BUT the thing with albums they need time to ‘sink or swim’ thtats why reviews at the time are pretty useless. When I first heard the album I liked it better than GR but now it’s way off even that album. GR only had RTS I disliked but WFTSC had I told you so, morning night and day, Dracula’s castle, Jetstream, and working overtime that ranged from poor to average at best. Still has one absolute classic in the title track and another excellent one in Turn. I would rate Who’s Joe, HNWYD, Kraft, GIAUE as good solid NO tracks. But as has been said before best tracks from WFTSC and LS make a pretty solid album still.

Maybe in 30 years time when we arrive at the gig on hover boards and NO have been preserved forever out of legend status they will do another MIF they will start with an instrumental of Dracula’s castle and I’ll love it and then at long last they will follow up with Leave Me Alone and we’ll all die happy.

By the time you finish reviewing Sirens, Dennis, your CtoS site will resemble a 2Unlimited lyrics sheet.

Don't tempt me. I've pushed through the wall - plenty of good to come...

Hey Now What You Doing + Waiting For The Sirens’ Call reviews posted

Waiting For The Sirens' Call (the song) is the last great New Order song.Music Complete is a great album and overall easily superior to Waiting For The Sirens' Call (the album) but not one song on MC despite their quality quite gets close to the title of last great New Order song.Even if New Order ever do another album and there is a song better than Waiting For The Sirens' Call it still won't make the title or prize of being the last great New Order song.Yeah, i know, how does that work and all that?

The album version is the definitive version.There's a similar cut on one of the 7" singles and /or the 2 track CD single (is it the Rich Costey one?) but it's edited and has a different texture and fails because it doesn't fully explore every emotion and avenue the album version does.The Jackknife version is good, that dancey mix on the CD single though if we're talking dance versions of the song the Planet Funk version is the dogs, more so live recently than than the one originally on the 12x12" campaign.Sorry if i've got the 2 versions on the CD single mixed up, i get a bit lost over which version is which but basically the more dancey version is way better than than the version that is a shortened, not so nice texturally version of the album version.


I went to the May 2012 New Order gig at Brixton Academy (second night). During Waiting For The Sirens' Call (they were still doing basically the original album version then, not the great Planet Funk version they do so well in more recent years) i was jumping around in the moshpit like a demented dervish; for a brief moment or two Bernard and me caught eyes i'm sure as he sang the chorus and i'll never know if the look in his eyes he saw me as some slightly unhinged New Order fan or if he had some moment when he saw just how his lyrics and New Order's music has a magical, transcendent effect on people.Jury's forever out on that one.


Even a few years ago , a girlfriend i was with at the time who really couldn't give a fuck about New Order ("oh yeah that boring lot who sang Blue Monday") said one time when i stuck Waiting For The Sirens' Call (the song ) on the stereo said at the end yeah that is a bloody good song in anybody's book.



As for Hey Now What You doin'? I can't be arsed.

The first song is great, second got relegated to a second cd disk of 15 songs including workimg overtime, guilt remix , miracle cure, in the ghetto out of control, and some of their singles of the time
Waiting is real good , and the sleeve reminds me of Bow WowWow's annnabelle Lwin.
If new order had added Do You Want To Hold Me and I want Candy covers to WFTSC i I would have been pleased then ,and often wish they would do it now just for fun ,with .Bernard singing about Mickey mouse . Plenty more great songs , ahead but sometimes some get relegated for poor play. Of course NO songs are rarely relegated very far away, since they are better than their peers

Bound to happen.
I still can't make it through the first 35 seconds of Mel C's I Want Candy video. My thing will never be the same again either.
WFTSC starts off well but loses it after the first four songs.

At this point I wouldn't mind if they never make another album. MC would be a fine closer and I'm so bored of endless speculation, rehashes and waiting for just the occasional stunner. They tend to make a good one followed by a not so good one - Closer to Movement, Low Life to Brotherhood, Technique to Repubelick etc - so by that logic... Making an LP as good as MC knocked most people (including moi) for sex, and maybe they should quit while they're ahead.

This idea of new songs is not new . Mute records ,perhaps short for mutation, may not have any power over NO.
But it is their quest to explore with renewed energy as songs and sounds and vibrations of nature are in their blood, in their hair,even in their miticlorians, so, of course they can't stop .
They aren't old and fragile pretty little breakable ornaments on a shelf .
They are blood and guts and vim and vigor ,and venomous rock and roll icons of everywhere between here and 6 trillion parsecs west of the trex nebula