Really?
I always assumed that it was the album version.
Can anyone direct me to somewhere I can hear this? Ta.

I think the version of Crystal on the Here To Stay 12" is exactly the same length as the album version but there are a few differences i.e as Andy said ,more Hooky.But i'm sure negative1 will scold me now for not checking his definitive list for confirmation.

Edited by user 06 November 2017 06:45:31(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Got rid of all my vinyl but had transferred all exclusive tracks to CD-R. Description is "Original Mix" which is how it was listed on the 12" label. Running time (at least on my disc) is 7:08.

I'm not going to go through inch by inch and compare this with the LP mix but the easiest comparison is with the Substance vs. original 12" of The Perfect Kiss: More stuff at the end. Crystal was never a favourite so my ears aren't really going to be tuned to notice minor mix variations throughout the track. I'm sure someone will find something exciting about it...

The premix version of Crystal, with more Hooky in the bridge, clocks at 7:23. Seems to be yet another version.

More about this premix at:
http://www.allformusic.f...et-ready-premix-mastered
http://thepowerofindepen...-get-ready-mastered.html

Edited by user 06 November 2017 08:35:26(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I really like the Pre-Mix + Companion.

There are some really interesting variations. SLY is excellent.
That Brutal Instrumental Demo on the Companion is great, plus that very different demo of 60MPH is really good.

There’s probably a few too many mixes of Brutal on there though.
7! Crikey!

Edited by user 06 November 2017 13:32:58(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Never heard about the companion. Will have to find it...

The pre-mix is indeed very interesting. I replaced Crystal by the Hooky-enriched premix version in my Get Ready iTunes playlist, as well as SLY which is slightly different (with one different chorus if I remember well) and, indeed, better to my ears . If my memory is right, Close Range premix is very different from the final version (which I prefer).

I do really like 'Second To None'. 'All That I Need' was pretty good too.

Both those premix versions are excellent. I especially like the 'Someone Like You' mix. That track is bloody great anyway.

As regards the DJ mixes of 'Crystal', I have a couple of the Cybersecrecy mixes (Indestructible & Shatterproof Mixes), a couple of the Corvin Dalek mixes (Siliconsex & Donner & Summer Remixes) and the Original Demo on the Mark Reeder 'Collaborator' LP. I think there were some Flatner & Ingram mixes too but I've never heard them.

Music-wise, the mixes aren't really my cup of tea. However, it's really nice to hear the additional lyrics that are included in some of them:

'The close that I get to you,
The more you run away from me.
Just tell what I've got to do,
You don't have to be afraid of me.
I want your love,
I need your love.
I want the things that others have.
Whenever you're here with me,
That's where I want to be.'

For anyone that didn't know, prior to New Order recording Crystal, Sumner's vocals were given to various DJs, via Mark Reeder, with the idea that they would make tracks using the vocals supplied. Pete Tong heard heard one of the mixes created and said that it was the best New Order track he'd heard since Blue Monday, so NO decided to record a version themselves.
They presumably added the chorus (I don't know what to say etc.), as that doesn't seem to appear in any of the mixes.
The mixes created by the DJs were shelved until after the band's version had been released (which makes sense). I think that some of them have never seen the light of day.

Here's the Cybersecrecy Shatterproof Mix with the extra lyrics if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLkmtU6t1OU

I think some of them might have been sung by Dawn Zee in NO's version, but it's nice to hear Sumner sing them.

Seen as if some of the remixes used these lyrics and some didn't, it makes you wonder if there were any other lyrics not used.

60 mph is my least favourite on the first half of GR - really MOR and more Wings than Beatles. The remix is pointless filler à la London too.

In fact that remix sounded like Rupert's Frog Chorus. The SLU take was decent but as always, mixes without the vocal were more DJ self-indulgence than NO.
PS Ever wondered what Stephen Morris was doing in that long break? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1mQ_B3Q65c

Edited by user 15 November 2017 11:15:41(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Revisiting Let's Go, I was intrigued how it was included on the US Best Of, like Hellbent on Scrotal. I'd guess that in both cases the song was used not because it was indeed worthy, but simply cos it was the closest London could get to a newbie at the time. It's similar to Greatest Hits packages containing an unreleased track which by definition can't be a hit (at least not yet).
Let's Go (Waiting For So Long) is a gem.
'Republic has great lyrics, shit music; Get Ready, the opposite.' Disgust.

Literally?
Close Range is like my dick during Spice Girls videos. It grows on me.
My dad has a penis growing out of his head, but he keeps it under his hat.
Get Ready is sooooo hit and miss... But has enough HITS to earn relistens, unlike Repubelick. Crystral, PN, TMW...

Edited by user 19 November 2017 10:38:37(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I hardly know Sabotage - it ain't on the LP or my 60 mph CD single. Better than the average B-side, not as good as the average LP track, but average.
Boy, did Bernard have some shite lyrics in this period - Crock the shit, Pisser in the League, even Primitive Notion which is one of the time's strongest songs musically.