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Wayne S		#26 Posted : 12 September 2014 19:23:32(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 24/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 3 Location: Leicester Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Glasgow has been added for the 29th so to round up, he's doing 4 dates now seems like all 4 are organised by Waterstones as they're all listed on their website here's the info for all 4 - Sunday, 21 September 2014, 3:00PM Bernard Sumner in conversation with Dave Haslam THIS HAS NOW SOLD OUT Royal Exchange Theatre, St Ann's Square, Manchester, M2 7DH £10 full view, £7 restricted Legendary Manchester musician Bernard Sumner, of Joy Division and New Order fame joins Dave Haslam in a discussion at the Royal Exchange to celebrate the release of Bernard's autobiography 'Chapter and Verse'. This promises to be brilliant. Further details: 0161 833 9833 Thursday, 25 September 2014, 7:00PM An evening with Bernard Sumner WATERSTONE'S TRAFALGAR SQ., LONDON Tickets £20, including booking fee and including a copy of Chapter and Verse to collect at the event join us at this special event as the founding member and guitarist of Joy Division and the lead singer of New Order discusses his new memoir with Dave Simpson of The Guardian. Further details: 0207 839 4411 Monday, 29 September 2014, 6:30PM An evening with Bernard Sumner WATERSTONE'S GLASGOW SAUCHIEHA Tickets £20, including a drink and a copy of Bernard's Chapter and Verse, available from the bookshop or by clicking Buy Tickets. Booking charges may apply. Join us at this special event as Bernard Sumner, founding member and guitarist of Joy Division and lead singer of New Order, discusses his new memoir Chapter and Verse. Further details: 0141 332 9105 Tuesday, 30 September 2014, 7:30PM An Evening With Bernard Sumner - In Conversation With Dave Haslam Epstein Theatre, 85 Hanover St Liverpool L1 3DY epstein.ticketline.co.uk Join founding member and lead guitarist of Joy Division and lead singer of New Order, Bernard Sumner, as he talks about his long-awaited autobiography, Chapter and Verse. In conversation with DJ/writer Dave Haslam, Bernard tells of the early days of Joy Division, to enormous critical and commercial success as well as the tragic death of Ian Curtis and the formation of New Order. Tickets are £10. Bernard will be signing copies of his book after the event and the book will be available to buy on the night. Further details: 0151 709 9820 The Waterstones page with links to Buy Tickets online is at http://www.waterstones.c...;author=Bernard%7CSumner so still no Midlands date like I'd personally like, but at least there's more now.

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Aracri		#27 Posted : 16 September 2014 15:28:12(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 26/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 346 Location: Rio de Janeiro Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 403 time(s) in 355 post(s)		Hooky seems very interested. What he'd be thinking about? Edited by user 16 September 2014 15:29:35(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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spooky		#28 Posted : 16 September 2014 15:38:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 05/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 64 Was thanked: 73 time(s) in 63 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Aracri Hooky seems very interested. What he'd be thinking about? that's a great photo!

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NotAMod		#29 Posted : 17 September 2014 06:44:32(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 653 Location: London, UK Thanks: 176 times Was thanked: 1040 time(s) in 655 post(s)		These Hooky tweets have probably helped Bernard shift a few more copies, free publicity and all that. I'm approaching the book with as much of an open mind as I approached Hooky's two tomes. It's clear both men will put forward things "as they remember them" which may not strictly tally with what actually happened. With that in mind, Steve's book will most likely be the one to read (for sheer accuracy). Bernard's traditionally been reasonably tight-lipped in interview regarding absolute specifics of band relationships, mechanics, politics etc. preferring to fall back on "as a band, we think..." whereas Hooky - to put it mildly - has never shied away from what his own opinions are. It's going to be really interesting - perhaps more so than with Hooky's books - because this will be the first time we'll get Bernard's unvarnished and uninterrupted opinions on key people/events. Not expecting Hooky to come out of it very well after recent disputes but I'd be surprised if all of his contributions are dismissed. Looking forward to the Waterstones signing next week.

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Bill		#30 Posted : 17 September 2014 16:12:12(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Wow thought the book wasn't out til the 25th but just found email from Amazon saying my order has been dispatched and i should receive it tomorrow the 18th (or today now really as its 1.15am) .Wasn't expecting that Yay yay yippee do! Edited by user 17 September 2014 16:16:56(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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FuneralAddict		#31 Posted : 18 September 2014 05:53:22(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 17/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 9 Location: Manchester Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 9 post(s)		Just heard Bernard on 5 Live Little chance of a reconciliation with Hooky. 'He's a very angry man'.

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Bill		#32 Posted : 18 September 2014 06:14:54(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Book delivered just now.This has really taken me by surprise.Quick flick through before start of reading, there's some cracking previously unseen photos.Really excited about reading this book.

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NotAMod		#33 Posted : 18 September 2014 08:47:26(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 653 Location: London, UK Thanks: 176 times Was thanked: 1040 time(s) in 655 post(s)		Snippet of Bernard promoting the book on Radio 5 Live. Recalling to Richard Bacon the day he discovered Ian had committed suicide.

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Bill		#34 Posted : 18 September 2014 08:55:11(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Just catching up with the full interview on catch up now.Go to about 25 minutes in to find start of interview

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markreed		#35 Posted : 18 September 2014 10:25:17(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 02/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 229 Location: Somewhere, GB Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 353 time(s) in 229 post(s)		The section about the split seems a little odd at first read, though throughout the book he seems fairly open about Karl Bartos "knowing what a twat I am", and sometimes being a "right miserable scumbag" as he puts it on p280. I'll have to read it properly. Also credits Hooky with musical talent quite graciously I thought.
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Debaser		#36 Posted : 18 September 2014 10:37:49(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,052 Location: here n there Thanks: 486 times Was thanked: 3005 time(s) in 2073 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Bill Just catching up with the full interview on catch up now.Go to about 25 minutes in to find start of interview Thanks for that Mr Turnbull. It would have been interesting to hear Bacon ask about the legal stuff relating to reforming NO without youknowwho, and also when the new album was likely to get made/released. I don't think there was too much I didn't already know in that interview. Respect to Bacon for suggesting they just bury the hatchet anyway. He gets points for that.

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Bill		#37 Posted : 18 September 2014 11:40:47(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Early chapters of the book where Bernard says about the health problems his Mother, Grandmother and Grandfather suffered and the tearing down of the street he'd grown up in is heartwrenching and harrowing stuff.Sounds like he had a nightmare time growing up though it is interspersed with lighter, funnier stories from that period of his life.

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FuneralAddict		#38 Posted : 18 September 2014 17:52:56(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 17/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 9 Location: Manchester Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 9 post(s)		The science teacher story is mental

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www.neworderweb.net		#39 Posted : 18 September 2014 23:42:27(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 67 Location: Barnsley,South Yorkshire ,UK Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)		New Order fans are fiercely loyal. They don't just like New Order, they feel a profound connection between the band, music and themselves. It goes way beyond simply liking a catchy tune, its deeply personal : its not just a case of playing our music while they're washing the pots or catching us occasionally on the radio - these are people whose lives have been changed, who've found some kind of solace or inspiration in what we've done. My favourite line from the book so far, never a truer word spoken. As for the book itself, enjoyable I obviously don't want to spoil it for the rest so that's all I am saying
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Who's Joe?		#40 Posted : 19 September 2014 03:06:37(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 08/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 125 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Thanks: 22 times Was thanked: 147 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Originally Posted by: www.neworderweb.net New Order fans are fiercely loyal. They don't just like New Order, they feel a profound connection between the band, music and themselves. It goes way beyond simply liking a catchy tune, its deeply personal : its not just a case of playing our music while they're washing the pots or catching us occasionally on the radio - these are people whose lives have been changed, who've found some kind of solace or inspiration in what we've done. My favourite line from the book so far, never a truer word spoken. As for the book itself, enjoyable I obviously don't want to spoil it for the rest so that's all I am saying I told Bernard as much when I got the chance to meet him last year. New Order, and Joy Division as well, got me through my brother's passing. I got both band's Substance (via BMG) in the mail just days after he passed and I connected immediately to the music. New Order helped me try to find joy and dance without fear. Powerful stuff...

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Linus Solanki		#41 Posted : 19 September 2014 03:37:58(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 10/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 622 Location: NYC Thanks: 54 times Was thanked: 1012 time(s) in 642 post(s)		Originally Posted by: www.neworderweb.net New Order fans are fiercely loyal. They don't just like New Order, they feel a profound connection between the band, music and themselves. It goes way beyond simply liking a catchy tune, its deeply personal : its not just a case of playing our music while they're washing the pots or catching us occasionally on the radio - these are people whose lives have been changed, who've found some kind of solace or inspiration in what we've done. My favourite line from the book so far, never a truer word spoken. As for the book itself, enjoyable I obviously don't want to spoil it for the rest so that's all I am saying I agree with this 100%, He couldn't have said it better
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FuneralAddict		#42 Posted : 19 September 2014 04:28:11(UTC)
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Sage_		#43 Posted : 20 September 2014 04:43:55(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 02/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 159 Location: Melbourne, Australia Thanks: 105 times Was thanked: 220 time(s) in 164 post(s)		Originally Posted by: FuneralAddict https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57EgXtuo81w&list=UU7pcI9Im0frl_CLmVLxZIUQ lesser quality than the official BBC link posted above.

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Bill		#44 Posted : 20 September 2014 05:53:13(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Finished reading the book .Yeah i enjoyed it immensely.Just was really good after all these years to finally get Bernard's story and what makes him tick, his views and opinions and everything else.Yeah there's been countless interviews etc with him over the years but a book is just, dunno, different. I kind of zone out these days when it comes to the tales about the legal wranglings with the Hacienda and prefer to read stories and accounts that i've not previously read about.Even if it's little tales like the one about when he was driving a hire car in America and it turned out it had faulty brakes.Then there's other tales which i had previously read about but had long forgotten. I actually found myself laughing reading about the breakdown in relations between Hooky and the rest of the band..just found a lot of the incidents Bernard recounts on that subject hilarious.But Bernard's bit about "do the maths" was hard to argue with. I've tried to give my personal opinion of the book there without giving much away to people that haven't read it yet and i feel i haven't given too much away Thought there would have been a lot more posts on this thread or the forum in general from people giving their thoughts on the book, whether they liked it or not( without giving the story away of course!)Bit odd and strange there's only been a handful of posts. Edited by user 20 September 2014 06:11:50(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Mike		#45 Posted : 20 September 2014 06:27:08(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 218 Thanks: 37151 times Was thanked: 226 time(s) in 125 post(s)		Going Manc Sunday to get this book and listen to Barney talk. Cheers for not revealing too much mate!


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Bill		#46 Posted : 20 September 2014 07:35:17(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		The full transcript of Bernard's hypnosis session with Ian Curtis- wow, that was pretty fucking spooky to read but very,very interesting.What do you make of something like that? I suppose experts or scientists or whoever would dismiss that kind of thing and come up with some explanation about it's not possible to remember under hypnosis or any other method some previous life (if there is such a thing) but my gut reaction is that Bernard really did manage to do that with Ian Curtis.But then again experts would probably say i'm biassed towards Bernard .

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Bill		#47 Posted : 20 September 2014 07:36:40(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 28/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,303 Location: UK Was thanked: 1611 time(s) in 1339 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Rocket Mick Going Manc Sunday to get this book and listen to Barney talk. Cheers for not revealing too much mate! Cheers, Mick.Have fun at the signing

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rosygale		#48 Posted : 20 September 2014 13:57:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Village Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 81 Location: Scotland Thanks: 48 times Was thanked: 88 time(s) in 81 post(s)		Aaargh - I forgot this came out today, I would have perhaps bought it in hardback, but anyway have now got the kindle version. Whatever, real books can be hard work after kindle - though I'll eventually get it in paperback at least, so as to have something to hold onto. It seems very readable, perhaps more so than Morrissey's Autobiography which I read whenever I'm in the dentist waiting room as there seems to be no 3G there. I'm still only 23% of the way through. I see someone has already put up a silly review on Amazon - though this is now perhaps a tradition and only to be expected.
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Missy Jem		#49 Posted : 20 September 2014 23:09:09(UTC)
Rank: Young Offender Groups: Registered Joined: 04/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 36 Location: Horwich Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 51 time(s) in 36 post(s)		Originally Posted by: rosygale It seems very readable, perhaps more so than Morrissey's Autobiography which I read whenever I'm in the dentist waiting room as there seems to be no 3G there. I'm still only 23% of the way through. Agreed, I've picked it up and put it down about 15 times. I'm now 3/4 of the way through and have read two other books in between, since I started it. I'll read Bernard's Book before I finish the Morrissey one.

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FuneralAddict		#50 Posted : 21 September 2014 10:41:28(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 17/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 9 Location: Manchester Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 9 post(s)		Just seen Bernard at the interview / signing in Manchester. Pretty sure I saw Pottsy.

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