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#176 Posted : 14 October 2024 10:06:21(UTC)
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https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1258195788538060

Stephen doing the unboxing - good to see the metallic sleeve looks as nice and shiny as it should!

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#177 Posted : 14 October 2024 10:23:20(UTC)
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https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1258195788538060

Stephen doing the unboxing - good to see the metallic sleeve looks as nice and shiny as it should!




Ah you've beaten me to it. You must have posted within about 4 minutes of the NO FB post.

Let's see if we can embed the Twitter/X post.


What's the T Shirt?

EDIT: Oh it's Harmonia – Musik Von Harmonia

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#178 Posted : 14 October 2024 12:34:08(UTC)
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Looking good!


I've said it before and I'll say it again, Steve is just an absolute delight.
Seems like the nicest guy you could ever want to meet.
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#179 Posted : 22 October 2024 04:47:40(UTC)
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#180 Posted : 22 October 2024 05:22:42(UTC)
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Weird that they are making a big deal of the Midi thing. In PH's autobiography, he says that Low-life was where they first adopted midi

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The album (Low-Life) was recorded normally using a 24-track Studer tape machine and our own great collection of equipment, using pretty much the same stuff we used on Power, Corruption & Lies. The only big differences here were the adoption of MIDI technology and the use of SMPTE Timecode.


Likewise SM first mentions it after the technical problems at the 1984 BBC Live session just before Low-Life

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Needless to say from that fateful day forward the Prophet sequencer’s days were numbered. There was this hot new thing called MIDI coming out that was today’s future. The answer to my prayers. Some of the more tedious ones anyway.



You won't be surprised to learn that Bernard doesn't mention midi at all in his book Big Grin





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#181 Posted : 22 October 2024 09:23:30(UTC)
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It could be that they adopted MIDI for their instruments at the earlier time, but their use of computers as the MIDI controller came in later.
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#182 Posted : 23 October 2024 10:55:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
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Weird that they are making a big deal of the Midi thing. In PH's autobiography, he says that Low-life was where they first adopted midi

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The album (Low-Life) was recorded normally using a 24-track Studer tape machine and our own great collection of equipment, using pretty much the same stuff we used on Power, Corruption & Lies. The only big differences here were the adoption of MIDI technology and the use of SMPTE Timecode.


Likewise SM first mentions it after the technical problems at the 1984 BBC Live session just before Low-Life

Quote:
Needless to say from that fateful day forward the Prophet sequencer’s days were numbered. There was this hot new thing called MIDI coming out that was today’s future. The answer to my prayers. Some of the more tedious ones anyway.



You won't be surprised to learn that Bernard doesn't mention midi at all in his book Big Grin


After hearing Hooky recycling various JD/NO basslines for various Brotherhood songs, and the calamity that was to become Broken Promise, Bernard rushed to A1 Music in Manchester and bought the Yamaha QX1 sequencer and the rest is history.
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#183 Posted : 24 October 2024 09:51:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Question for Johnny James. I've always wondered what the story was behind the Stephen Hague remix(es) and when they were made. Were they recorded at the time of 'Brotherhood', or commissioned specifically for 'Married To The Mob'? As there's a 12" remix, were they ever planning to release (or re-released) this version as a single? Was it solely Stephen Hague's work or were the band involved (was never 100% sure if it features a different vocal from Barney to the album version)?

What's the history of these versions? Cheers.

Any feedback on the above question Johnny James?

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#184 Posted : 24 October 2024 12:19:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Question for Johnny James. I've always wondered what the story was behind the Stephen Hague remix(es) and when they were made. Were they recorded at the time of 'Brotherhood', or commissioned specifically for 'Married To The Mob'? As there's a 12" remix, were they ever planning to release (or re-released) this version as a single? Was it solely Stephen Hague's work or were the band involved (was never 100% sure if it features a different vocal from Barney to the album version)?

What's the history of these versions? Cheers.

Any feedback on the above question Johnny James?

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I don't really know the details, except that the tape was dated 1988, so clearly separate to Brotherhood. It was probably done specifically for Married To The Mob.
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#185 Posted : 24 October 2024 13:57:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post

I don't really know the details, except that the tape was dated 1988, so clearly separate to Brotherhood. It was probably done specifically for Married To The Mob.

Interesting, so after they first worked with Hague on 'True Faith/1963'.
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#186 Posted : 25 October 2024 09:49:50(UTC)
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I don't really know the details, except that the tape was dated 1988, so clearly separate to Brotherhood. It was probably done specifically for Married To The Mob.

Interesting, so after they first worked with Hague on 'True Faith/1963'.

Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes as a follow-up single to support 'Substance' in 1988, maybe until 'Blue Monday 1988' came along? Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point!

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#187 Posted : 25 October 2024 10:54:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes as a follow-up single to support 'Substance' in 1988, maybe until 'Blue Monday 1988' came along? Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point!


Married To The Mob came out a full year after Substance, and BLT was the single just prior to True Faith...on the other hand, Factory was hurting for money, so who knows.

I find it interesting that Stephen Hague was remixing U.K artists for American soundtracks 1987-1988, and producing U.K synth artists almost exclusively at that time.
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#188 Posted : 25 October 2024 11:37:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes as a follow-up single to support 'Substance' in 1988, maybe until 'Blue Monday 1988' came along? Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point!


Married To The Mob came out a full year after Substance, and BLT was the single just prior to True Faith...on the other hand, Factory was hurting for money, so who knows.

Wouldn't have been the first time a song that wasn't a hit the first time got re-released for another attempt - particularly after the cult status the Shep 12" mix got in certain countries and clubs, and after the success of 'Substance'. Would love to know the real reason Stephen Hague got paid to make a new single version and 12" mix. Unlikely it was just for a soundtrack album when they could've reused the album or previous single version.
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#189 Posted : 25 October 2024 14:34:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Would love to know the real reason Stephen Hague got paid to make a new single version and 12" mix. Unlikely it was just for a soundtrack album when they could've reused the album or previous single version.

Yep, This.

Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post

Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes .... Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point!


The question needs to be asked (of Mr Morris, cos Bernard won't remember or care) during any upcoming promotion for the box set.

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#190 Posted : 25 October 2024 22:57:16(UTC)
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I'm satisfied with the answer from Johnny James, actually.

The band had a good relationship with the film's director, Jonathan Demme, and presubably Hague was happy to have a go at a chart friendly version after it's relatively disappointing '86 showing, especially after his success with "True Faith". Shep's remix that was so popular on the dance floors was a bit harsh to be radio friendly, especially in the U.S. I think the spoken word bit in the video (which I personally like) probably threw people off also.
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#191 Posted : 08 November 2024 01:32:19(UTC)
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#192 Posted : 08 November 2024 02:50:54(UTC)
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Pretty decent. Nice Hooky bass at end.

Glad that we've finally had another demo that features vocals.

Although I've enjoyed the demos on the last two box sets, they have limited 'replay value' for me. I need vocals to be present to justify repeated listenings. Instrumental demos are more 'curios' to me..

I think we were just spoilt with those brilliant demos on the first LP.
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Weirdly, the channel appears to have now posted the same song with a different background image an hour or so ago.

Although the first version is still playable, it doesn't appear in the list of videos for the channel.

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#194 Posted : 08 November 2024 04:53:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Weirdly, the channel appears to have now posted the same song with a different background image an hour or so ago.

Although the first version is still playable, it doesn't appear in the list of videos for the channel.



Interesting to see in the image of the master reel that there were 4 takes listed (one instrumental).
I wonder if they were actually different full takes (ie live performances) or just the same track with different mixes

Most likely the former (else they would have listed them as mixes, not takes?), in which case I wonder how different they were?

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Weirdly, the channel appears to have now posted the same song with a different background image an hour or so ago.

Although the first version is still playable, it doesn't appear in the list of videos for the channel.



Interesting to see in the image of the master reel that there were 4 takes listed (one instrumental).
I wonder if they were actually different full takes (ie live performances) or just the same track with different mixes

Most likely the former (else they would have listed them as mixes, not takes?), in which case I wonder how different they were?



really enjoying the demo.. but yeah, if there were other takes,
would want to hear those also.

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Just over a week to release can’t wait - can I echo “perspexorange” thanks, to the people have been involved in these Boxsets, very much appreciated without these it would have been fairly quiet in the forum these last few years.

The overall beauty of the boxsets are the main reason for buying but the CD extras is also the main bonus I look forward to. There looks to be some great stuff on Brotherhood and most tracks look like they will be worth listening too over and over (unlike some of them demos as others have said). However as usual it leaves you wanting more:

Let’s Go - I would have thought across Brotherhood & Lowlife we’d have a definitive collection for this track

BLT - vocal demo with extra lines / alternative lyrics (obviously didn’t do a demo for this one - could the live version have been used?)

Would have loved to have some demo’s of WOL and Weirdo!

It would be a shame if the fans never get to hear some of the other rehearsal ./ demos tapes but appreciate the expense / time these would consume.


Couple of questions:


Would anyone be able to share the ‘XFM's Brotherhood 25th anniversary episode’ with me please, would love to have another listen before the release.

Record and CD sleeve look’s like a simple metalised board - was the original version the same or was it more of an actual metal?

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Would anyone be able to share the ‘XFM's Brotherhood 25th anniversary episode’ with me please, would love to have another listen before the release.


Pretty sure I have this. Give me until tomorrow night and I’ll dig it out (unless someone gets to it before me).

Really glad there are others enjoying these releases.
Really looking forward to this set. Also, it’s ‘Technique’ on the horizon, which is my favourite LP by any band. Cannot wait.

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Only just got round yesterday to preorder
the box and BLT 12" ( my orginal 1986 copy long gone). Through Amazon but i won't receive til 26th Nov apparently. Maybe because i've left it late?
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Would anyone be able to share the ‘XFM's Brotherhood 25th anniversary episode’ with me please, would love to have another listen before the release.


Pretty sure I have this. Give me until tomorrow night and I’ll dig it out (unless someone gets to it before me).



Here you go:

https://we.tl/t-ntvUApyPTd


Link probably good for seven days.
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Only just got round yesterday to preorder
the box and BLT 12" ( my orginal 1986 copy long gone). Through Amazon but i won't receive til 26th Nov apparently. Maybe because i've left it late?


yes, i've just ordered it also.

although, there were 2 stores, walmart and somewhere else selling it for $110 i think.

however, i went with the store, because i got all three 12 inch singles, and saved on shipping.
no t shirt this time around or posters, oh well.

lets see if it gets here on time or not.

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