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https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1258195788538060Stephen doing the unboxing - good to see the metallic sleeve looks as nice and shiny as it should!
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1258195788538060
Stephen doing the unboxing - good to see the metallic sleeve looks as nice and shiny as it should!
Ah you've beaten me to it. You must have posted within about 4 minutes of the NO FB post. Let's see if we can embed the Twitter/X post.
What's the T Shirt? EDIT: Oh it's Harmonia – Musik Von HarmoniaEdited by user 14 October 2024 10:30:02(UTC)
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Looking good!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Steve is just an absolute delight. Seems like the nicest guy you could ever want to meet.
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Weird that they are making a big deal of the Midi thing. In PH's autobiography, he says that Low-life was where they first adopted midi Quote:The album (Low-Life) was recorded normally using a 24-track Studer tape machine and our own great collection of equipment, using pretty much the same stuff we used on Power, Corruption & Lies. The only big differences here were the adoption of MIDI technology and the use of SMPTE Timecode. Likewise SM first mentions it after the technical problems at the 1984 BBC Live session just before Low-Life Quote:Needless to say from that fateful day forward the Prophet sequencer’s days were numbered. There was this hot new thing called MIDI coming out that was today’s future. The answer to my prayers. Some of the more tedious ones anyway.
You won't be surprised to learn that Bernard doesn't mention midi at all in his book
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It could be that they adopted MIDI for their instruments at the earlier time, but their use of computers as the MIDI controller came in later.
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Originally Posted by: Debaser Weird that they are making a big deal of the Midi thing. In PH's autobiography, he says that Low-life was where they first adopted midi Quote:The album (Low-Life) was recorded normally using a 24-track Studer tape machine and our own great collection of equipment, using pretty much the same stuff we used on Power, Corruption & Lies. The only big differences here were the adoption of MIDI technology and the use of SMPTE Timecode. Likewise SM first mentions it after the technical problems at the 1984 BBC Live session just before Low-Life Quote:Needless to say from that fateful day forward the Prophet sequencer’s days were numbered. There was this hot new thing called MIDI coming out that was today’s future. The answer to my prayers. Some of the more tedious ones anyway.
You won't be surprised to learn that Bernard doesn't mention midi at all in his book After hearing Hooky recycling various JD/NO basslines for various Brotherhood songs, and the calamity that was to become Broken Promise, Bernard rushed to A1 Music in Manchester and bought the Yamaha QX1 sequencer and the rest is history.
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Question for Johnny James. I've always wondered what the story was behind the Stephen Hague remix(es) and when they were made. Were they recorded at the time of 'Brotherhood', or commissioned specifically for 'Married To The Mob'? As there's a 12" remix, were they ever planning to release (or re-released) this version as a single? Was it solely Stephen Hague's work or were the band involved (was never 100% sure if it features a different vocal from Barney to the album version)?
What's the history of these versions? Cheers. Any feedback on the above question Johnny James? Thanks
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Question for Johnny James. I've always wondered what the story was behind the Stephen Hague remix(es) and when they were made. Were they recorded at the time of 'Brotherhood', or commissioned specifically for 'Married To The Mob'? As there's a 12" remix, were they ever planning to release (or re-released) this version as a single? Was it solely Stephen Hague's work or were the band involved (was never 100% sure if it features a different vocal from Barney to the album version)?
What's the history of these versions? Cheers. Any feedback on the above question Johnny James? Thanks I don't really know the details, except that the tape was dated 1988, so clearly separate to Brotherhood. It was probably done specifically for Married To The Mob.
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Originally Posted by: Johnny James I don't really know the details, except that the tape was dated 1988, so clearly separate to Brotherhood. It was probably done specifically for Married To The Mob.
Interesting, so after they first worked with Hague on 'True Faith/1963'.
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Originally Posted by: Johnny James I don't really know the details, except that the tape was dated 1988, so clearly separate to Brotherhood. It was probably done specifically for Married To The Mob.
Interesting, so after they first worked with Hague on 'True Faith/1963'. Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes as a follow-up single to support 'Substance' in 1988, maybe until 'Blue Monday 1988' came along? Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point! Edited by user 25 October 2024 09:50:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes as a follow-up single to support 'Substance' in 1988, maybe until 'Blue Monday 1988' came along? Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point! Married To The Mob came out a full year after Substance, and BLT was the single just prior to True Faith...on the other hand, Factory was hurting for money, so who knows. I find it interesting that Stephen Hague was remixing U.K artists for American soundtracks 1987-1988, and producing U.K synth artists almost exclusively at that time.
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes as a follow-up single to support 'Substance' in 1988, maybe until 'Blue Monday 1988' came along? Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point! Married To The Mob came out a full year after Substance, and BLT was the single just prior to True Faith...on the other hand, Factory was hurting for money, so who knows. Wouldn't have been the first time a song that wasn't a hit the first time got re-released for another attempt - particularly after the cult status the Shep 12" mix got in certain countries and clubs, and after the success of 'Substance'. Would love to know the real reason Stephen Hague got paid to make a new single version and 12" mix. Unlikely it was just for a soundtrack album when they could've reused the album or previous single version.
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Would love to know the real reason Stephen Hague got paid to make a new single version and 12" mix. Unlikely it was just for a soundtrack album when they could've reused the album or previous single version.
Yep, This. Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Wonder if there was a plan to re-release 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' using the Stephen Hague remixes .... Definitely a question for Steve or Barney at some point!
The question needs to be asked (of Mr Morris, cos Bernard won't remember or care) during any upcoming promotion for the box set.
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I'm satisfied with the answer from Johnny James, actually.
The band had a good relationship with the film's director, Jonathan Demme, and presubably Hague was happy to have a go at a chart friendly version after it's relatively disappointing '86 showing, especially after his success with "True Faith". Shep's remix that was so popular on the dance floors was a bit harsh to be radio friendly, especially in the U.S. I think the spoken word bit in the video (which I personally like) probably threw people off also.
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