logo
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

2 Pages12>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
negative1  
#1 Posted : 07 February 2021 23:38:50(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
anyone know whats up with this release.

did bernard work on it.. sounds new orderish enough.


andother related release to get.


and yes, the band did get more famous with love will tear us apart.


later
-1

Edited by user 09 February 2021 18:34:28(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 1 user thanked negative1 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
Sponsor
50poundnote  
#2 Posted : 08 February 2021 08:35:55(UTC)
50poundnote

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 374

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 573 time(s) in 368 post(s)
Wow, that is really terrible. I mean, most '80s German synthpop is bad, but at least enjoyable-bad.

Discogs claims New Order did an edit, but they're far more likely to have done a *remix*, unless it's mistranslated.

I've never heard of this band in conjunction with New Order at all. Considering the label is Pop FACTORY, and they covered LWTUA, I'm going to guess they were trying desperately to hitch their wagon to New Order by simply titling that mix "New Order Edit," and the band had zero to do with it.

Edited by user 08 February 2021 08:36:46(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 2 users thanked 50poundnote for this useful post.
negative1 on 08/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#3 Posted : 08 February 2021 12:29:06(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
Wow, that is really terrible. I mean, most '80s German synthpop is bad, but at least enjoyable-bad.

Discogs claims New Order did an edit, but they're far more likely to have done a *remix*, unless it's mistranslated.

I've never heard of this band in conjunction with New Order at all. Considering the label is Pop FACTORY, and they covered LWTUA, I'm going to guess they were trying desperately to hitch their wagon to New Order by simply titling that mix "New Order Edit," and the band had zero to do with it.


is there any way to find out, or verify that they did or did not work on this release.

i never heard of them either, so when this came up i didn't know if there was a connection or not.

i don't think it's that bad of a song actually, she's got a decent voice, and that style of music was in at that time.

there are other bands like boxcar, that sounded almost exactly like new order clones, with freemason, and other tracks.

later
-1

thanks 1 user thanked negative1 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
50poundnote  
#4 Posted : 08 February 2021 13:57:56(UTC)
50poundnote

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 374

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 573 time(s) in 368 post(s)
All the bands Barney or Peter worked with ended up on comps like Cool As Ice, Twice As Nice, The Quick Neat Job, and New Order Presents Be Music. They're always credited to Bemusic, if not Sumner by name, and they're all UK-based bands. In 1986 they wouldn't be doing an edit for an obscure German band, and in the 3+ decades since their name surely would have cropped up on bootlegs, tape trades, fan websites, etc.

And Boxcar may be a clone, but they're a good clone. Vertigo is the best New Order album not released by New Order.
thanks 2 users thanked 50poundnote for this useful post.
negative1 on 08/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#5 Posted : 08 February 2021 14:18:51(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
All the bands Barney or Peter worked with ended up on comps like Cool As Ice, Twice As Nice, The Quick Neat Job, and New Order Presents Be Music. They're always credited to Bemusic, if not Sumner by name, and they're all UK-based bands. In 1986 they wouldn't be doing an edit for an obscure German band, and in the 3+ decades since their name surely would have cropped up on bootlegs, tape trades, fan websites, etc.

And Boxcar may be a clone, but they're a good clone. Vertigo is the best New Order album not released by New Order.


Agreed about boxcar, they even got robert racic to work on some of the remixes and singles.

i got the remix album, and it was great too.

i think discogs people, just tagged the wrong credit on the song, so i guess i'll disregard it.

thanks for the information.

later
-1

thanks 1 user thanked negative1 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
depthcharge  
#6 Posted : 09 February 2021 06:41:33(UTC)
depthcharge

Rank: Member of the Republic

Groups: Registered
Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC)
Posts: 153
Location: Australia

Thanks: 9 times
Was thanked: 215 time(s) in 152 post(s)
I'm a sucker for anything NO had a hand in and actually own this 7". Looked extensively for evidence of their involvement but never found it.

Arrived at the same conclusion as you guys.





thanks 1 user thanked depthcharge for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
depthcharge  
#7 Posted : 09 February 2021 06:48:48(UTC)
depthcharge

Rank: Member of the Republic

Groups: Registered
Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC)
Posts: 153
Location: Australia

Thanks: 9 times
Was thanked: 215 time(s) in 152 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post

And Boxcar may be a clone, but they're a good clone. Vertigo is the best New Order album not released by New Order.


They were the poor man's New Order down here at the time, and I duly bought a bunch of their 12"s.

Nice to hear them mentioned again.

Hailed from Brisbane so I bet Dennis Remmer has some stories.





thanks 1 user thanked depthcharge for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
50poundnote  
#8 Posted : 09 February 2021 08:33:57(UTC)
50poundnote

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 374

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 573 time(s) in 368 post(s)
Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post
They were the poor man's New Order down here at the time, and I duly bought a bunch of their 12"s.

Nice to hear them mentioned again.

Hailed from Brisbane so I bet Dennis Remmer has some stories.


I'm a fan. I've got Vertigo, all the 12" and CD singles, and Revision (the collected remixes album).

I'm also a massive Severed Heads fan, and Stewart Lawler who was in Boxcar mkII, has toured with Tom in recent years.

Edited by user 09 February 2021 08:35:30(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 1 user thanked 50poundnote for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#9 Posted : 09 February 2021 18:43:12(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
i was really into techno remakes and versions back in the 90's.

I LOVED the elecroset - how does it feel, i think they are better versions than some of the other
djs that tried remixing blue monday.

i have the US and UK CD singles:
US
UserPostedImage

discogs.com/Electroset-How-Does-It-Feel/release/369734


UK
UserPostedImage
https://www.discogs.com/Electroset-How-Does-It-Feel/release/190312



i just wish it had more lyrics.

of course, now i have to go back, and try adding them back into it. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

later
-1
thanks 2 users thanked negative1 for this useful post.
Rorschach on 10/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#10 Posted : 09 February 2021 18:57:38(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post
They were the poor man's New Order down here at the time, and I duly bought a bunch of their 12"s.

Nice to hear them mentioned again.

Hailed from Brisbane so I bet Dennis Remmer has some stories.


I'm a fan. I've got Vertigo, all the 12" and CD singles, and Revision (the collected remixes album).

I'm also a massive Severed Heads fan, and Stewart Lawler who was in Boxcar mkII, has toured with Tom in recent years.



boxcar released a highway to he ll remixes for an ac/dc cover album in 2011:

https://www.discogs.com/Boxcar-H2H/release/5681823

Boxcar ‎– H2H
Label:
Not On Label ‎– none
Format:
4 × File, MP3, Single, 320 kbps
Country:
Australia
Released:
2011
Genre:
Electronic
Style:
Synth-pop, Leftfield
Tracklist
1 Highway To Hell (Radio) 4:12
2 Highway To Hell (12" Mix) 6:02
3 Superhighway To Hell 6:05
4 Highway To Hell (Radio Instrumental) 4:12
Total Time: 20:31

a 4rack live EP in 2014
https://www.discogs.com/Boxcar-Boxcar-Live-The-Wireless-Triple-J/release/5681851

Boxcar ‎– Boxcar Live @ The Wireless Triple J
Label:
Not On Label ‎– none
Format:
4 × File, EP, 320 kbps
Country:
Australia
Released:
04 Feb 2014
Genre:
Electronic
Style:
Synth-pop, Leftfield
Tracklist
1 Spirit 4:59
2 Universal Hymn 4:38
3 What Are You So Happy About? 4:06
4 Olive 3:31
Total Time: 17:14

and 4 comet remixes, one from robert racic in 2018:

UserPostedImage
https://www.discogs.com/Boxcar-Comet-Remixes/release/13344321

Boxcar ‎– Comet (Remixes)
Label:
Volition Music ‎– VOLT2183
Format:
4 × File, AAC, EP, Single
Country:
Australia
Released:
01 Jun 2018
Genre:
Electronic
Style:
Electro, Techno, Dub, Leftfield
TracklistShow Credits
1 Comet (Racic Extended Mix) 5:17
2 Comet (Francis Xavier Remix) 6:41
3 Comet (Tronik Youth Remix) 5:35
4 Comet (Valley Forge Rework) 5:35
Total Time: 23:08



later
-1
thanks 1 user thanked negative1 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#11 Posted : 09 February 2021 19:03:02(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
oh yeah, and boxcar did some insect remixes in 2017 (although i didn't care much for them),
wished they had done freemason, or who do you think you are... love those ones..

https://www.discogs.com/Boxcar-Insect-Remixes/release/13344286

UserPostedImage

Boxcar ‎– Insect (Remixes)
Label:
Volition Music ‎– VOLT2181
Format:
6 × File, AAC, Single
Country:
Australia
Released:
01 Dec 2017
Genre:
Electronic
Style:
Electro, Techno, Dub, Leftfield
TracklistShow Credits
1 Insect (Max Wolf vs. Boxcar Remix) 4:13
2 Dubsect (Racic Dub) 6:52
3 Insect (Tunnel Signs Classic Bass Dub) 6:46
4 Insect (Tunnel Signs & Johannes Klingebiel Dub) 6:25
5 Insect (Racic Radio Edit) 3:36
6 Insect (Racic Club Mix) 6:41
Total Time: 34:33


later
-1







thanks 1 user thanked negative1 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
Second To None  
#12 Posted : 10 February 2021 05:54:11(UTC)
Second To None

Rank: Candidate

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/06/2012(UTC)
Posts: 9
Man
Location: UK

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 12 time(s) in 9 post(s)
The Electroset one was excellent, they did one with INXS New Sensation but that didn't seem to be quite as good to me!


https://youtu.be/lbJWaf2PqF0



thanks 2 users thanked Second To None for this useful post.
negative1 on 10/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
Andy  
#13 Posted : 10 February 2021 21:18:01(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,575
Man
Location: USA

Thanks: 905 times
Was thanked: 2071 time(s) in 1557 post(s)
Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post

And Boxcar may be a clone, but they're a good clone. Vertigo is the best New Order album not released by New Order.


They were the poor man's New Order down here at the time, and I duly bought a bunch of their 12"s.

Nice to hear them mentioned again.

Hailed from Brisbane so I bet Dennis Remmer has some stories.







Cooled off on them but had their Vertigo album and accompanying singles at the time. Freemason nearly sounded more like a New Order/Pet Shop Boys hybrid than Electronic! I remember liking Gas Stop, but the video amped up the New Order imitations to uncomfortable levels.

thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
negative1 on 11/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
Andy  
#14 Posted : 10 February 2021 21:32:01(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,575
Man
Location: USA

Thanks: 905 times
Was thanked: 2071 time(s) in 1557 post(s)
Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
All the bands Barney or Peter worked with ended up on comps like Cool As Ice, Twice As Nice, The Quick Neat Job, and New Order Presents Be Music. They're always credited to Bemusic, if not Sumner by name, and they're all UK-based bands. In 1986 they wouldn't be doing an edit for an obscure German band, and in the 3+ decades since their name surely would have cropped up on bootlegs, tape trades, fan websites, etc.

And Boxcar may be a clone, but they're a good clone. Vertigo is the best New Order album not released by New Order.


Agreed about boxcar, they even got robert racic to work on some of the remixes and singles.

i got the remix album, and it was great too.

i think discogs people, just tagged the wrong credit on the song, so i guess i'll disregard it.

thanks for the information.

later
-1



Getting a bit more off topic here, but suspect you'd appreciate Moev. There were many permutations of the band, but the two albums they did with Dean Russell on vocals were excellent (the 2nd of them, Head Down, featuring a young Sarah McLachlan). I saw them open for Xymox in 1989, and both groups were superb live. Moev started the set with Capital Heaven, which sounded immense with it's percolating stabs of synth.

Capital Heaven

thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
negative1 on 11/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
50poundnote  
#15 Posted : 10 February 2021 21:46:22(UTC)
50poundnote

Rank: Member of the Brotherhood

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 374

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 573 time(s) in 368 post(s)
Yes, I LOVE Moev! Pretty much anything on Nettwerk, especially mid '80s to early '90s: Moev, Severed Heads, Skinny Puppy, Manufacture, Sarah McLachlan, Chris And Cosey, Single Gun Theory, Gary Clail's Tackhead Sound System, Bel Canto, MC 900 Ft Jesus, Hilt, Gruesome Twosome, Consolidated - I have all those records.
thanks 3 users thanked 50poundnote for this useful post.
negative1 on 11/02/2021(UTC), Andy on 11/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#16 Posted : 11 February 2021 08:42:59(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
Yes, I LOVE Moev! Pretty much anything on Nettwerk, especially mid '80s to early '90s: Moev, Severed Heads, Skinny Puppy, Manufacture, Sarah McLachlan, Chris And Cosey, Single Gun Theory, Gary Clail's Tackhead Sound System, Bel Canto, MC 900 Ft Jesus, Hilt, Gruesome Twosome, Consolidated - I have all those records.



i have a lot of those singles also, was also into a lot of wax trax groups, ministry, skinny puppy, front 242 etc.
along with frontline assembly and nitzer ebb. a lot of industrial sounding bands.

later
-1
thanks 1 user thanked negative1 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC)
Andy  
#17 Posted : 11 February 2021 08:55:04(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,575
Man
Location: USA

Thanks: 905 times
Was thanked: 2071 time(s) in 1557 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
Yes, I LOVE Moev! Pretty much anything on Nettwerk, especially mid '80s to early '90s: Moev, Severed Heads, Skinny Puppy, Manufacture, Sarah McLachlan, Chris And Cosey, Single Gun Theory, Gary Clail's Tackhead Sound System, Bel Canto, MC 900 Ft Jesus, Hilt, Gruesome Twosome, Consolidated - I have all those records.



Was primarily directed at -1 but believe many fans of New Order would like Moev. They are far less guitar-oriented (although bass guitar is heavily featured), but if you like the more dark and menacing New Order tracks synth tracks like 586 and This Time of Night, Moev might be up your alley.
thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC), negative1 on 11/02/2021(UTC)
Andy  
#18 Posted : 11 February 2021 09:45:34(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,575
Man
Location: USA

Thanks: 905 times
Was thanked: 2071 time(s) in 1557 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
All the bands Barney or Peter worked with ended up on comps like Cool As Ice, Twice As Nice, The Quick Neat Job, and New Order Presents Be Music. They're always credited to Bemusic, if not Sumner by name, and they're all UK-based bands. In 1986 they wouldn't be doing an edit for an obscure German band, and in the 3+ decades since their name surely would have cropped up on bootlegs, tape trades, fan websites, etc.

And Boxcar may be a clone, but they're a good clone. Vertigo is the best New Order album not released by New Order.


Agreed about boxcar, they even got robert racic to work on some of the remixes and singles.

i got the remix album, and it was great too.

i think discogs people, just tagged the wrong credit on the song, so i guess i'll disregard it.

thanks for the information.

later
-1



Getting a bit more off topic here, but suspect you'd appreciate Moev. There were many permutations of the band, but the two albums they did with Dean Russell on vocals were excellent (the 2nd of them, Head Down, featuring a young Sarah McLachlan). I saw them open for Xymox in 1989, and both groups were superb live. Moev started the set with Capital Heaven, which sounded immense with it's percolating stabs of synth.

Capital Heaven



It's also worth giving a shout out to early Clan of Xymox/Xymox. They were never trendsetters at the time, sounding like a mix of previous styles popularized by New Order, The Cure and The Sisters of Mercy, but that doesn't really matter now. Their first four albums saw them refine their style, becoming more accomplished (and commercial) as they progressed. Their 4th LP actually sounds like a hybrid of Technique and Disintegration!


A Day 1st album

Louise 2nd album

Evelyn 3rd album (...although Imagination with the lovely bassist Anka singing was actually the hit)

Written in the Stars 4th album
thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC), negative1 on 11/02/2021(UTC)
perspexorange  
#19 Posted : 11 February 2021 10:31:07(UTC)
perspexorange

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC)
Posts: 1,559
Location: Salop

Thanks: 280 times
Was thanked: 2044 time(s) in 1555 post(s)
Always loved Clan Of Xymox' 'Cry In The Wind'. Now that is a fine piece of post-punk:
thanks 3 users thanked perspexorange for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 11/02/2021(UTC), negative1 on 11/02/2021(UTC), Andy on 11/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#20 Posted : 11 February 2021 16:42:31(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post


Getting a bit more off topic here, but suspect you'd appreciate Moev. There were many permutations of the band, but the two albums they did with Dean Russell on vocals were excellent (the 2nd of them, Head Down, featuring a young Sarah McLachlan). I saw them open for Xymox in 1989, and both groups were superb live. Moev started the set with Capital Heaven, which sounded immense with it's percolating stabs of synth.

Capital Heaven



It's also worth giving a shout out to early Clan of Xymox/Xymox. They were never trendsetters at the time, sounding like a mix of previous styles popularized by New Order, The Cure and The Sisters of Mercy, but that doesn't really matter now. Their first four albums saw them refine their style, becoming more accomplished (and commercial) as they progressed. Their 4th LP actually sounds like a hybrid of Technique and Disintegration!


A Day 1st album

Louise 2nd album

Evelyn 3rd album (...although Imagination with the lovely bassist Anka singing was actually the hit)

Written in the Stars 4th album


yes, i have a few select albums and singles from MOEV, thanks.

love early clan of xymox, and have all of those, and the singles too.

they're still doing music, touring, lost track of them in the 90's, but they've kept on going, and going, and going.

later
-1

Edited by user 11 February 2021 16:44:02(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 2 users thanked negative1 for this useful post.
Andy on 11/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 12/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#21 Posted : 11 February 2021 22:16:08(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
here's my US / UK electroset cd's i put in a Z pack:

UserPostedImage

still need to get the vinyl versions, and other assorted variations.

later
-1

thanks 1 user thanked negative1 for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 12/02/2021(UTC)
Andy  
#22 Posted : 12 February 2021 00:13:18(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,575
Man
Location: USA

Thanks: 905 times
Was thanked: 2071 time(s) in 1557 post(s)
Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post


Getting a bit more off topic here, but suspect you'd appreciate Moev. There were many permutations of the band, but the two albums they did with Dean Russell on vocals were excellent (the 2nd of them, Head Down, featuring a young Sarah McLachlan). I saw them open for Xymox in 1989, and both groups were superb live. Moev started the set with Capital Heaven, which sounded immense with it's percolating stabs of synth.

Capital Heaven



It's also worth giving a shout out to early Clan of Xymox/Xymox. They were never trendsetters at the time, sounding like a mix of previous styles popularized by New Order, The Cure and The Sisters of Mercy, but that doesn't really matter now. Their first four albums saw them refine their style, becoming more accomplished (and commercial) as they progressed. Their 4th LP actually sounds like a hybrid of Technique and Disintegration!


A Day 1st album

Louise 2nd album

Evelyn 3rd album (...although Imagination with the lovely bassist Anka singing was actually the hit)

Written in the Stars 4th album


yes, i have a few select albums and singles from MOEV, thanks.

love early clan of xymox, and have all of those, and the singles too.

they're still doing music, touring, lost track of them in the 90's, but they've kept on going, and going, and going.

later
-1


After that 4th album (Phoenix), the band splintered. They had signed to a major label but, as I mentioned, were always a bit late to the party. They weren't able to generate enough sales in the '90's as trends started to drift away from that style popularized by New Order, The Cure, etc in the '80's. Their 5th album was essentially a solo effort by Ronny Moorings (the Billy Corgan of the band, I suppose). He decided to go in a techno direction for a couple of albums but, again, wasn't exactly breaking new ground. His first Xymox single release spotlighting the new direction, Dream On, was disappointing. Made even more so by the excellent b-side, Soul Free, which hearkened back to the synthpop style of the previous 2 LPs. After the techno stuff was out of his system, he assembled a new band which embraces a dour goth style that I didn't think the original Clan of Xymox was really a part of. I stopped buying their stuff long ago so can't say if anything they've released after the '90's is actually any good.
thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
negative1 on 12/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 12/02/2021(UTC)
Andy  
#23 Posted : 12 February 2021 00:36:59(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,575
Man
Location: USA

Thanks: 905 times
Was thanked: 2071 time(s) in 1557 post(s)
A final tidbit before I shut up about Xymox: I saw them live in 1989 and 1991, and they were, without a doubt, the next best thing to New Order in terms of combining live instruments and synths/programming. At least at the time. They were actually a bit more practiced and proficient at their instruments than New Order (bar Stephen Morris, of course) but weren't show offs with solos and that type of garbage. Yet there was a similarity in concept and attitude. I'm not sure if it's because they're from the Netherlands or not but they seemed straightforward and humble. They weren't showbizzy. I was a bit surprised because the photos of them at the time made them look like a cross between Gene Loves Jezebel and Thompson Twins. I had expected more posing and posturing. But when Anka took her turn at the mic in 1989 to sing 7th Time, Ronny put down his guitar and took her bass. Presumably because she wasn't so accomplished at singing and playing at the same time.

I would pay good money to see a reformation of the original group.

Edited by user 12 February 2021 00:38:47(UTC)  | Reason: typo

thanks 2 users thanked Andy for this useful post.
negative1 on 12/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 12/02/2021(UTC)
negative1  
#24 Posted : 12 February 2021 08:26:11(UTC)
negative1

Rank: Member with Technique

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 902

Thanks: 368 times
Was thanked: 1100 time(s) in 881 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
A final tidbit before I shut up about Xymox: I saw them live in 1989 and 1991, and they were, without a doubt, the next best thing to New Order in terms of combining live instruments and synths/programming. At least at the time. They were actually a bit more practiced and proficient at their instruments than New Order (bar Stephen Morris, of course) but weren't show offs with solos and that type of garbage. Yet there was a similarity in concept and attitude. I'm not sure if it's because they're from the Netherlands or not but they seemed straightforward and humble. They weren't showbizzy. I was a bit surprised because the photos of them at the time made them look like a cross between Gene Loves Jezebel and Thompson Twins. I had expected more posing and posturing. But when Anka took her turn at the mic in 1989 to sing 7th Time, Ronny put down his guitar and took her bass. Presumably because she wasn't so accomplished at singing and playing at the same time.

I would pay good money to see a reformation of the original group.


they've had at least 10 albums or more since the 90's.

i've heard the live album from 2000, and it was pretty good:
https://www.discogs.com/Clan-Of-Xymox-Live/master/55580


Clan Of Xymox ‎– Live
Genre:
Electronic, Rock
Style:
New Wave, Goth Rock, Synth-pop
Year:
2000
Tracklist
Stranger 8:08
Cry In The Wind 5:48
This World 6:35
Jasmine & Rose 5:51
A Day 6:50
Louise 5:53
Creature 5:09
Back Door 5:01
Out Of The Rain 4:14
Taste Of Medicine 7:50
Going Round '97 6:20
Obsession 5:52
Muscoviet Mosquito 4:17
Michelle 2:54
Craving 5:45
Consolation 5:04
Agonized By Love 3:20
Hypocrite 4:54
The Story Ends 5:05
Jasmine & Rose 5:56
Stranger 8:13
Total Time: 1:58:59

there's the john peel sessions from 2001:
https://www.discogs.com/Clan-Of-Xymox-The-John-Peel-Sessions/master/193291

Clan Of Xymox ‎– The John Peel Sessions
Genre:
Rock
Style:
New Wave, Goth Rock
Year:
2001
Tracklist
Stranger 5:30
Muscoviet Mosquito 3:59
Seventh Time 4:45
After The Call 7:20
Agonised By Love 5:03
Mesmerised 6:16
Total Time: 32:53

and the early demos:
https://www.discogs.com/Clan-Of-Xymox-Early-Demos/master/1386263

Clan Of Xymox ‎– Early Demos
Genre:
Electronic, Rock
Style:
Darkwave, New Wave, Post-Punk
Year:
2015
Tracklist
Stranger (Demo 1982)
7th Time (Demo 1982)
Stumble & Fall (IDEM)
A Day (IDEM)
Equal Ways (IDEM)
Back Door (Demo 1983)
A Day (Live Rehearsal 1984)
7th Time (Live Rehearsal 1984)
Moscoviet Mosquito (Live Rehearsal 1984)
Stumble & Fall (Live Rehearsal 1984)
Lorrentine
Medusa
After The Call
Louise
A Day (Live Radio 1985)
Muscoviet Mosquito (Live Radio 1985)
Michelle
Louise
1st Ever Several Times
1st Ever Back Door
Dreamland
1st Ever A Day
All Fold Up
Here It's Raining Again (Rejected Demo)
1st Ever Stranger
Wonderland
Xymox #4 (Rejected Demo)
Xymox #2 (Rejected Demo)


so, lots of classic stuff out there.

later
-1


thanks 2 users thanked negative1 for this useful post.
Andy on 12/02/2021(UTC), ROCKET MICK on 12/02/2021(UTC)
Andy  
#25 Posted : 12 February 2021 09:08:53(UTC)
Andy

Rank: Guilty Partner

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,575
Man
Location: USA

Thanks: 905 times
Was thanked: 2071 time(s) in 1557 post(s)
The demos are primitive but good. I actually prefer the demo of Stumble and Fall to the version on the first album. It has more of a Kraftwerk feel to it.
thanks 1 user thanked Andy for this useful post.
ROCKET MICK on 12/02/2021(UTC)
Users browsing this topic
Guest (3)
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF 2.1.1 | YAF © 2003-2021, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.956 seconds.