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#176 Posted : 30 April 2022 02:21:45(UTC)
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#177 Posted : 30 April 2022 02:38:14(UTC)
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Hmm, yeah, I thought that for years.
That Buttrich remix has made me doubt myself though.
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#178 Posted : 30 April 2022 02:56:34(UTC)
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Live version. Do we trust 'live' Barney?


Jump to around 2:48.

I'm hearing a strong V in "covers" (almost sounds west-country, "cuvers")

I'm hearing "stems"

and yes Perspex, I'm hearing "disarrangement" rather than estrangement.

Mind you, sometimes Priming in our own heads can affect what we (think we) hear...
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ROCKET MICK on 05/05/2022(UTC)
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#179 Posted : 30 April 2022 04:41:49(UTC)
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Do we trust 'live' Barney?


Never! Big Grin

However, yeah, this pretty much seals that it's 'covers'. Or, at least, he decided to change it by the time they got to this gig, either permanently or on a whim.



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(almost sounds west-country, "cuvers")


HaHa. yep. It does.
O-right, my luvverrr!

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I'm hearing "stems"


In this live version, it almost sounds like 'spreads'. Well, to me it does, at least. Probably another example of Bernard changing lyrics on a whim.

But, yeah, I'm sure the studio version is 'stems', and I'm 99% sure it's 'disarrangement' rather than 'estrangement' (based on the Buttrich mix, which is much clearer).

Where they got 'sprung' from is anyone's guess though.
I reckon they, rather than mishearing the word, just made a mistake when typing in the text. They meant to type 'stems' but ended up copying the word 'sprung' from the previous line ('Confusion sprung up from devotion').
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ROCKET MICK on 05/05/2022(UTC)
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#180 Posted : 30 April 2022 08:02:09(UTC)
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"stems" and "disarrangement" for me, Clive.


At least I'm not alone.

And where do you stand on the 'covers' / 'colours' issue? Big Grin


"Disarragement" and "covers", for me.

Good spot.
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ROCKET MICK on 05/05/2022(UTC)
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#181 Posted : 30 April 2022 08:04:00(UTC)
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They're understandably getting a lot of grief regarding this ignorant tweet: NewOrderTwitter
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#182 Posted : 30 April 2022 08:38:58(UTC)
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They're understandably getting a lot of grief regarding this ignorant tweet: NewOrderTwitter


D'oh!

Although I understand we all make mistakes, that's quite the clanger. You'd think the easy answer here would've been to check it out on Wikipedia etc. I'm thinking they may have seen the expanded edition of the LP on Spotify/Apple Music etc.


I suppose it's a bit of a dilemma.
Do you appoint someone to monitor a band's social media profile who is media savvy, with years of experience?
Or do you appoint a fan of the band who'd catch errors like this?



It's probably much easier with 'new' bands. Less history to mess up, plus there's a good chance that you'd get plenty of candidates who fit the joint roles of 'fan' and 'pro'.

Us old bastards who love the band, probably don't know a hashtag from a hash-brown.
Or is that just me?
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#183 Posted : 30 April 2022 12:10:58(UTC)
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A monumental clanger, that.
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ROCKET MICK on 05/05/2022(UTC)
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#184 Posted : 19 May 2022 02:28:17(UTC)
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For those who don't do twitter:


and a couple of older posts:
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Fotz on 19/05/2022(UTC)
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#185 Posted : 19 May 2022 02:42:13(UTC)
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Cheers.
Spotted the first one on Twitter yesterday, which I think is 'new'. I think the other two were originally posted a few months back, along with this one:

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Interestingly, as mentioned by Steve, these are from the 23/05/79 gig rather than the more famous 14/03/79 one (which Whitehead filmed and Martin O'Neill took copies photos of).

As far as I know, there is only one other photo of this gig, which has Ian with a very weird facial expression:


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