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Debaser  
#876 Posted : 08 February 2024 13:55:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
This original remix did come out on one of Clarke's mix compilations (Remixes & Rarities 1992-2005).

And as part of the New State 12 x 12" campaign of 2006 (unmixed). Confusion / Everything's Gone Green / Waiting For The Sirens' Call

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#877 Posted : 12 February 2024 05:27:42(UTC)
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Am I sh*tposting? Maybe but hey, somebody's got to keep this place alive!



Where's the synth break in this edit? The one at 5:14 below. That's the best part of the track!




"State" isnt one of their most lauded singles, but I think it could have been. Maybe if a producer (John Robie, I guess) had said: "let's work on the quality of those verses, and maybe have less of them"...

I like listening to the production on "Shame". I guess John Robie gets some credit for that.

I'd love to have a re-edit using the original parts of 12" "State" & "Shame", with some better (and less numerous) verses/lyrics. It's almost really good.

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#878 Posted : 12 February 2024 07:48:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
Where's the synth break in this edit? The one at 5:14 below. That's the best part of the track!


One is the 7" single mix and the other is the 12" mix.
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#879 Posted : 12 February 2024 08:30:22(UTC)
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Back in the 80s, when New Order had barely done a track that was anything less than 'brilliant', I used to think that 'State' was a rare misstep.
Along with 'Face-Up' and 'Every Little Counts', I used to think these three tracks were pretty poor (at least by NO's standards). Only in my daft, 17-year old opinion, of course (what did I know, eh?).

Now, I love all three of them, especially 'State'.

To be fair, it's probably because there's far more 'less than stellar' stuff by the band, post 1990, to compare those tracks favourably to.
Let's be honest, 'State' is a million times better than 'Chemical', 'Liar', 'Slow Jam', 'Rock The Shack', 'Jetstream' and 'Working Overtime'.

I think 'Shame' is a pretty decent alternate version/remix, so credit to Robie there.

It would be nice if there's a more 'dialled back' version of the track to be included on the Brotherhood set.
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#880 Posted : 12 February 2024 08:47:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
Where's the synth break in this edit? The one at 5:14 below. That's the best part of the track!


One is the 7" single mix and the other is the 12" mix.


I know but cutting out that break is just silly - it's the best bit! By all means edit things down for the 7", but not the good bit.
(I bought the 12" at the time; I think I woulda been p*ssed off with the crappy 7" edit if I had bought that instead).
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#881 Posted : 12 February 2024 09:30:50(UTC)
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Where's the synth break in this edit? The one at 5:14 below. That's the best part of the track!



You could always just listen to "Mr. Disco".

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#882 Posted : 13 February 2024 15:03:40(UTC)
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Had a good look and don't see this posted before although the host site gets a mention a few times in these pages.
https://www.brooklynvega...w-orders-best-deep-cuts/
A good selection but I'm sure "special" is one of those I skip past on Republic. (Actually I think I start skipping shortly after spooky. Must try harder)
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