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Andy  
#276 Posted : 16 December 2020 08:50:03(UTC)
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Mark Reeder DM'd me again (should I be concerned?) regarding his mix.

"my NO remix wont be in this package. it comes later. meanwhile heres a link to my album as a consolation prize. hope you like it. m"

I thanked him.

"you‘re welcome andrew. if you like it, please feel free to share the link (in a tweet :) btw there will be two NO remix bundles. mine will be in bundle nr 2 (whenever that is). m"

I bought his LP and then told him I'd share the link even if I didn't like the LP! Fortunately, what I heard sounds good so: BandCamp
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#277 Posted : 16 December 2020 09:45:38(UTC)
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Maceo Plex full length


Maceo Plex edit


Paul Woolford edit (I can't find the full length at the mo)


Bernard's Outlaw mix

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#278 Posted : 16 December 2020 11:02:45(UTC)
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Liking a lot the Paul Woolford and Maceo Plex mixes on more listening. The first 20 seconds or so of the Maceo Plex full length mix at first reminded me a little of As You Said by JD. Then later it goes a bit Born Slippy beat but slower. Born Slippy meets that Kraftwerk/BM choral sound .

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#279 Posted : 16 December 2020 13:13:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Liking a lot the Paul Woolford and Maceo Plex mixes on more listening. The first 20 seconds or so of the Maceo Plex full length mix at first reminded me a little of As You Said by JD. Then later it goes a bit Born Slippy beat but slower. Born Slippy meets that Kraftwerk/BM choral sound .


neither one is very good.
the maceo one is like a poormans megamix, with some overused elements in it.
the paul woolford mix doesn't bring anything new to the song, and is too basic to improve over the new order mixes.

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#280 Posted : 16 December 2020 13:24:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post
neither one is very good.
the maceo one is like a poormans megamix, with some overused elements in it.
the paul woolford mix doesn't bring anything new to the song, and is too basic to improve over the new order mixes.


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#281 Posted : 16 December 2020 13:40:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Liking a lot the Paul Woolford and Maceo Plex mixes on more listening. The first 20 seconds or so of the Maceo Plex full length mix at first reminded me a little of As You Said by JD. Then later it goes a bit Born Slippy beat but slower. Born Slippy meets that Kraftwerk/BM choral sound .


neither one is very good.
the maceo one is like a poormans megamix, with some overused elements in it.
the paul woolford mix doesn't bring anything new to the song, and is too basic to improve over the new order mixes.

later
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I thought the same. I didn’t like the remixes at all.

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#282 Posted : 16 December 2020 14:26:53(UTC)
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You can't polish a turd can you? OK, I'm exagerating, Be a Rebel is a decent song not a turd but it isn't great. The Maceo Plex remix is really bad to my ears. Won't listen to it twice for sure. I'll probably give Paul Woolford's a second chance but I don't expect it to charm me. In the end Bernard's Outlaw mix is the most interesting but not great either.
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#283 Posted : 18 December 2020 14:24:29(UTC)
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I'm just listening. The Paul Woolford mix is just basically "Looking For Me" vs "Be A Rebel" with a bit of mixing with a few sound alike samples from BLT thrown in. Doesn't seem like much effort was put into it. The Maceo Plex remix is almost bordering on an industrial dance version with tinges of Blue Monday. Not sure how good it would work on the dancefloor though. Going to have to listen to these a few times but the original is still my favourite, but again that's the one I've listened to most. Not sure these mixes are going to sway my opinion though.

Edited by user 18 December 2020 14:26:01(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling mistake. Can't have that...

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#284 Posted : 21 December 2020 01:52:36(UTC)
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Just read this on the Mute Records site: "Bernard Sumner has revisited his earlier ‘Be A Rebel’ remixes and combined the best into his Outlaw mix."

So, I'm guessing Barney's just been a bit indecisive on this remix and kept tweaking after it was sent for vinyl press, and again after its first digital release. Does that mean he considers the Outlaw mix the final, definitive version?

I actually like the second of the three variants best (i.e. the Renegade mix on the first digital release), as the "Hooky" guitar is a nice addition, and it has more space in the mix than the Outlaw version, which is beginning to sound more crowded now - although the Outlaw mix does have a warmer bottom end/bass to it than the digital Renegade Mix.

Wonder which of Bernard's mixes will feature on any CD single that might eventually get released?

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#285 Posted : 21 December 2020 07:25:04(UTC)
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is this for real?

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1 new order - be a rebel (parallel universe remix) 4:47

sounds real enough and is different from the others

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#286 Posted : 21 December 2020 07:27:11(UTC)
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Is this one of the fan-made mixes, which has a 'Hooky-style' bass-line?
Hence the term 'parallel universe', i.e. if Hooky was still in the band.
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#287 Posted : 21 December 2020 07:31:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Is this one of the fan-made mixes, which has a 'Hooky-style' bass-line?
Hence the term 'parallel universe', i.e. if Hooky was still in the band.


yeah, i think thats it.

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#288 Posted : 21 December 2020 08:05:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post
is this for real?


No. It popped up on YouTube about 48 hours after Be A Rebel was shared back in September.
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#289 Posted : 21 December 2020 08:45:12(UTC)
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Completist request: The "Maceo Plex Remix Edit" seems to be YouTube-only right now.

Anyone found a legit digital source for purchase? Ripping from YouTube is a last resort for me.

No guarantees this would make it onto any CD release - if that ever sees the light of day.
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#290 Posted : 22 December 2020 11:39:03(UTC)
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Wow last Friday’s Pete Tong show on BBC Radio 1 which is probably one of the biggest dance shows which people listen to all over the world, the first song he played was the Be A Rebel (Paul Woolford Remix)

Hope the remix and the song gets good exposure


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000q87j
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#291 Posted : 25 December 2020 23:17:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Linus Solanki Go to Quoted Post


The house piano sounded upfront in that mix, vocals were all chopped up, and there were more vocoder-only parts than the Woolford remix edit.

Excerpt of the full length Woolford remix? Could be one for the next remix bundle along with the Reeder.

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