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Andy  
#1 Posted : 04 January 2024 09:54:18(UTC)
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Although a "20 Worst New Order Lyrics" article would probably garner more response here, this "10 Best" list is interesting: ThisIsDig.com

I wouldn't have gone with "Crystal". And "All the Way" is a bit hit and miss. Also, I always preferred "Lonesome Tonight" to its a-side. But it's a good selection nonetheless.
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#2 Posted : 04 January 2024 10:41:54(UTC)
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Some good shouts, although there are others I'd've included but I do agree with #1.


(Disclaimer: As always, these things are subjective etc &c)
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#3 Posted : 05 January 2024 01:34:44(UTC)
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Hmm, interesting list.
Temptation, Thieves Like Us and True Faith were the first tracks that sprung to mind when I saw the title of this thread.

Can’t argue with True Faith being number 1. It was the song that really turned me on to the band and I loved the lyrics. They seemed so mysterious.
Surprised Blue Monday didn’t make the cut for similar reasons.
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#4 Posted : 05 January 2024 02:25:19(UTC)
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Laughing out loud at some of these

Funny that the example lyric from Crystal doesn't mention the all-time clunker of a couplet

"It's like honey - You can't buy it with money"

They're called supermarkets Bernard



And fair play to them including the sample lyric with the "literasites" line without mentioning that it isn't even a word
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#5 Posted : 05 January 2024 03:20:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
Laughing out loud at some of these

Funny that the example lyric from Crystal doesn't mention the all-time clunker of a couplet

"It's like honey - You can't buy it with money"

They're called supermarkets Bernard

And fair play to them including the sample lyric with the "literasites" line without mentioning that it isn't even a word

Granted, Barney was never the most accomplished or literal of lyricists, and I've heard others critique this 'Crystal' lyric. But I always interpreted it in a different way from the very first time I heard it - i.e:

Love is like honey
Love can't be bought with money

Makes more sense that way.

But most of his lyrics don't warrant a deep analysis. Still better than some of those Oasis lyrics: who the hell was Sally, and why did she need to wait? How was someone caught beneath a landslide in a champagne supernova in the sky?
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#6 Posted : 05 January 2024 13:54:56(UTC)
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Some of those listed would be from my worst list, but True Faith is a great example of Barney at his best - words and phrases that don't necessarily make literal sense on their own but strung together perfectly to hint at something deeper > real emotion. Euphoria in the case of True Faith, but in a track like Special - another highlight for mine - despair.
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#7 Posted : 06 January 2024 12:14:48(UTC)
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Completely misses out Regret(for which I too have no contact details for many people I used to hang out with) & TBTHOfG which are my favourites.
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#8 Posted : 07 January 2024 01:09:29(UTC)
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In addition to "Lonesome Tonight", which I mentioned above, I also think the lyrics to "All Day Long", "Leave Me Alone", "Nothing But a Fool" and "Love Less" (most of Technique, actually) are more thoughtful and affecting than their average fare.
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#9 Posted : 07 January 2024 03:01:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
In addition to "Lonesome Tonight", which I mentioned above, I also think the lyrics to "All Day Long", "Leave Me Alone", "Nothing But a Fool" and "Love Less" (most of Technique, actually) are more thoughtful and affecting than their average fare.


Everything about 'Leave Me Alone' is just beautiful, including the lyrics (even the teeth line).

Good shouts on the others.

It's probably a controversial opinion amongst New Order fans but, even though I think the lyrics to 'All Day Long' are some of their best, the song never really gelled with me. It's probably one of my least favourite songs from their imperial phase (1980-9).
I'm not sure what it it is - maybe it's the lyrics themselves, being a little 'on the nose'/obvious, rather than the more 'open to interpretation' of things like the aforementioned Blue Monday, True Faith, Sunrise etc.

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#10 Posted : 07 January 2024 08:02:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
the lyrics to "All Day Long", "Leave Me Alone", ... (most of Technique, actually) are more thoughtful and affecting than their average fare.

Yeah full agree


Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
It's probably a controversial opinion amongst New Order fans but, even though I think the lyrics to 'All Day Long' are some of their best, the song never really gelled with me. It's probably one of my least favourite songs from their imperial phase (1980-9).

It's probaby my joint favourite tune on Brotherhood along with BLT.
Once it takes off with the "Wagner" strings, it feels almost transcedent. I'm not saying the lyrics are perfect, but there's a storytelling quality that draws me in. And the tune is so good overall that I don't even want to nitpick about the lyrics. It is majestic.

So yes, controversial opinion there Perspex.

PS Special Mention to 1963 as well. Love the drama, the way it builds lyrically/musically (even if it did take inspiration from Johnny Remember Me).
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#11 Posted : 07 January 2024 10:03:13(UTC)
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Yes, always found the lyrics for Leave Me Alone pretty damn great. Powerful and moving, even.
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#12 Posted : 09 January 2024 14:10:15(UTC)
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I think the majority of new order lyrics between 1981 and 1993 are all pretty cool. Leave me alone is probably my favourite as well. Other ones not mentioned that I love are As it is when it was, broken promise, dream attack, cries and whispers from the top of my head. The dodgy lyrics mainly came after reforming in 98 (admittedly there are a few duds before then)
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#13 Posted : 10 January 2024 07:02:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: The Shadow Go to Quoted Post
The dodgy lyrics mainly came after reforming in 98


Well, get up, Jack. It's time to rock the shack

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