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#1 Posted : 25 September 2023 10:33:23(UTC)
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All three series now on iPlayer Smile
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#2 Posted : 25 September 2023 10:52:27(UTC)
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Crikey. I did watch them all back in the day, or most of them. Pretty sure it'll all look pretty dated now.
I recall Margi Clarke played quite a big character in the series or at least the first series. Keith Allen too i think.Think the very first episode was in early January 1989 and a few weeks before Technique was released. Got a preview alternate instrumental version of Vanishing Point. Many different variations on it were used on the closing credits over the 3 series and one of course made it onto the Round & Round CD single.

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#3 Posted : 25 September 2023 11:01:08(UTC)
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Yes I watched this purely cos I knew about the music input of The Other Two quite talented members of my favourite group. Before the Internet days any info was quite challenging to find even though I still bought both Sounds and NME. Lovely times.
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#4 Posted : 25 September 2023 23:26:32(UTC)
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Not sure if I recall correctly, but was the music for the first two series by all of New Order (or at least Steven Gillian and Hooky), then the third series was just The Other Two?
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This is a potential goldmine of interesting snippets and curios for anyone with patience and skills in audio extraction. In episode 1 alone there are lengthy iterations of Vanishing Point, and a nascent Happy One.
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#6 Posted : 25 September 2023 23:30:24(UTC)
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Not sure if I recall correctly, but was the music for the first two series by all of New Order (or at least Steven Gillian and Hooky), then the third series was just The Other Two?


The credits for series one state "Music by New Order", rightly so I guess as Hooky's bass is evident.

I think you're right that it became "Music by The Other Two" for the last series.
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Hoping some of these music snippets (or ideally the full instrumentals they were perhaps extracts from) eventually appear on the 'Technique' definitive edition bonus CD. I remember a few pieces of music in the series that weren't 'Vanishing Point' or 'The Happy One', and one or two sounded pretty cool. I vaguely remember one in a minor key with a synth bell melody and a strings pad that had a similar production and percussion to the album version of 'Round & Round', but with a different tune (although can't have heard it for decades).

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#8 Posted : 26 September 2023 01:01:13(UTC)
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Yes it did say music by New Order and Hooky did play. It was several bits of info I managed to read at the time was mentioned that Steve and Gillian were heavily involved. But as Vanishing Point is still one of my top 5 gems this proves that Making Out had a big impact on me at that time. These days everything is instantly available and disposable. I used to spend a fortune for me back then chasing music. I now haven't bought anything since 2015 apart from the odd track. My surviving collection is in far better nick than me!Cool
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#9 Posted : 26 September 2023 01:09:05(UTC)
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Round and Round was another that I bought in lots of different formats. Only 2 days ago I looked at the Be A Rebel Cd remixes in HMV in Preston and placed back very quickly..I wish I could still get that buzz back. But as Bernard is just slightly older than me I can understand why sailing the ocean is more fun than a studio with The Other Two. TIMES precious.Big Grin
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The series also included a version of The Other Two's 'Selfish' at various points in the episodes (series 2 and 3).
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OK - here is all the original soundtrack pieces from Season 1 extracted as 40 separate tracks

The end credits was a different version of Vanishing Point on each episode, so included them all

Quite a lot of unidentified incidental music, the only one that I recognise immediately is The Happy One.

I've noted them all as untitled for now but quite a lot of the themes recur across the episodes, so feel free to help me group them with new titles

https://we.tl/t-O0e7UAoIkN

01 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 Intro]
02 - The Happy One [SE1E01 Extract]
03 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 End Credits]
04 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Intro]
05 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Incidental]
06 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E02 End Credits]
07 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Intro]
08 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
09 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
10 - The Happy One [SE1E03 Extract]
11 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
12 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E03 End Credits]
13 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Intro]
14 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
15 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
16 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
17 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
18 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 End Credits]
19 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Intro]
20 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
21 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
22 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
23 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
24 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
25 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 End Credits]
26 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Intro]
27 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
28 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
29 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
30 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
31 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
32 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 End Credits]
33 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Intro]
34 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
35 - The Happy One [SE1E07 Extract]
36 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
37 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E07 End Credits]
38 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Intro]
39 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Incidental]
40 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E08 End Credits]
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Ace! Good work! Many thanks.
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I think by series 3 i didn't often watch it but i'd sometimes switch it on for the last few minutes to hear what variation of Vanishing Point instrumental would play over the end credits
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
The series also included a version of The Other Two's 'Selfish' at various points in the episodes (series 2 and 3).


This does lend some credence to the possibility that, from Series 2 onwards, there probably wasn't much input from Bernard & Hooky. At least not with new compositions.
Probably a mostly Other Two endeavour.

There's always a possibility that maybe even the first series was predominantly S&G.
Perhaps even 'Vanishing Point' was mostly written by them, with Hook adding bass for the soundtrack. Then Bernard tidied it up (getting rid of that additional keyboard melody) and adding lyrics (2 different sets, apparently) for release on 'Technique'.

Pure speculation on my part, but a fun thought nonetheless. Big Grin

Maybe JohnnyJames knows more.
If he's reading this, please try and get Bernard to agree to use a demo of that 'second set' of 'Vanishing Point' lyrics on the 'Technique' box.
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My surviving collection is in far better nick than me!Cool


What condition would you rate yourself in these days, RM? Using the Goldmine record classification guide.
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OK - here is all the original soundtrack pieces extracted


Very tidy!

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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
OK - here is all the original soundtrack pieces from Season 1 extracted as 40 separate tracks

The end credits was a different version of Vanishing Point on each episode, so included them all

Quite a lot of unidentified incidental music, the only one that I recognise immediately is The Happy One.

I've noted them all as untitled for now but quite a lot of the themes recur across the episodes, so feel free to help me group them with new titles

https://we.tl/t-O0e7UAoIkN

01 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 Intro]
02 - The Happy One [SE1E01 Extract]
03 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 End Credits]
04 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Intro]
05 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Incidental]
06 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E02 End Credits]
07 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Intro]
08 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
09 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
10 - The Happy One [SE1E03 Extract]
11 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
12 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E03 End Credits]
13 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Intro]
14 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
15 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
16 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
17 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
18 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 End Credits]
19 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Intro]
20 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
21 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
22 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
23 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
24 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
25 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 End Credits]
26 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Intro]
27 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
28 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
29 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
30 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
31 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
32 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 End Credits]
33 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Intro]
34 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
35 - The Happy One [SE1E07 Extract]
36 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
37 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E07 End Credits]
38 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Intro]
39 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Incidental]
40 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E08 End Credits]





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#18 Posted : 26 September 2023 04:34:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
OK - here is all the original soundtrack pieces from Season 1 extracted as 40 separate tracks

The end credits was a different version of Vanishing Point on each episode, so included them all

Quite a lot of unidentified incidental music, the only one that I recognise immediately is The Happy One.

I've noted them all as untitled for now but quite a lot of the themes recur across the episodes, so feel free to help me group them with new titles

https://we.tl/t-O0e7UAoIkN

01 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 Intro]
02 - The Happy One [SE1E01 Extract]
03 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 End Credits]
04 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Intro]
05 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Incidental]
06 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E02 End Credits]
07 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Intro]
08 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
09 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
10 - The Happy One [SE1E03 Extract]
11 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
12 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E03 End Credits]
13 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Intro]
14 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
15 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
16 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
17 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
18 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 End Credits]
19 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Intro]
20 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
21 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
22 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
23 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
24 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
25 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 End Credits]
26 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Intro]
27 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
28 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
29 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
30 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
31 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
32 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 End Credits]
33 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Intro]
34 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
35 - The Happy One [SE1E07 Extract]
36 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
37 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E07 End Credits]
38 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Intro]
39 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Incidental]
40 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E08 End Credits]





As a way to thank you for this excellent post, I thought you and others might be interested in this. It's a rarely seen film that S&G did the music for:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182420/

I may have shared this before (back when I got it in 2020), but if not, here it is:

https://we.tl/t-cv2RmkrA91





Now if anyone happens to have copies of the 'Goldplated' Channel 4 series that S&G did the soundtrack for, please consider sharing. Ta.
Discussion on soundtrack work here:

http://forums.neworderon...sts&t=4624#post30296
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
OK - here is all the original soundtrack pieces from Season 1 extracted as 40 separate tracks

The end credits was a different version of Vanishing Point on each episode, so included them all

Quite a lot of unidentified incidental music, the only one that I recognise immediately is The Happy One.

I've noted them all as untitled for now but quite a lot of the themes recur across the episodes, so feel free to help me group them with new titles

https://we.tl/t-O0e7UAoIkN

01 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 Intro]
02 - The Happy One [SE1E01 Extract]
03 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E01 End Credits]
04 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Intro]
05 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E02 Incidental]
06 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E02 End Credits]
07 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Intro]
08 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
09 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
10 - The Happy One [SE1E03 Extract]
11 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E03 Incidental]
12 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E03 End Credits]
13 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Intro]
14 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
15 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
16 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
17 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E04 Incidental]
18 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E04 End Credits]
19 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Intro]
20 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
21 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
22 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
23 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
24 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E05 Incidental]
25 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E05 End Credits]
26 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Intro]
27 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
28 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
29 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
30 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
31 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E06 Incidental]
32 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E06 End Credits]
33 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Intro]
34 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
35 - The Happy One [SE1E07 Extract]
36 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E07 Incidental]
37 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E07 End Credits]
38 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Intro]
39 - Untitled [Instrumental SE1E08 Incidental]
40 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE1E08 End Credits]

Well done for this - is it something you did from earlier recordings, or in the last few days from the iPlayer versions?
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Season Two audio extracts now here


https://we.tl/t-xnLw3gM6V0

Another 40 tracks - no Happy One, only Vanishing Point and a bunch of other instrumental pieces (as well as one that has what I assume is the cast doing the vocals... track 38)

I didn't notice Selfish in there, but I may have missed it as I'm not massively familiar with The Other Two stuff

The music is only credited to Stephen & Gillian on the end credits this time

01 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E01 Intro]
02 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E01 Incidental]
03 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E01 Incidental]
04 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E01 Incidental]
05 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E01 Incidental]
06 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E01 End Credits]
07 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E02 Incidental]
08 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E02 Incidental]
09 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E02 End Credits]
10 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E03 Intro]
11 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E03 Incidental]
11 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E03 End Credits]
12 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E04 Intro]
13 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E04 Incidental]
14 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E04 Incidental]
15 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E04 End Credits]
16 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E05 Intro]
17 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E05 Incidental]
18 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E05 Incidental]
19 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E05 Incidental]
20 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E05 Incidental]
21 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E05 End Credits]
22 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Intro]
23 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Incidental]
24 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Incidental]
25 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Incidental]
26 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Incidental]
27 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Incidental]
28 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Incidental]
29 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E06 Incidental]
30 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E06 End Credits]
31 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E07 Intro]
32 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E07 Incidental]
33 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E07 Incidental]
34 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E07 Incidental]
35 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E07 Incidental]
36 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E07 End Credits]
37 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E08 Intro]
38 - Untitled [SE2E08 Incidental]
39 - Untitled [Instrumental SE2E08 Incidental]
40 - Vanishing Point [Instrumental SE2E08 End Credits]


If people are enjoying it I'll finish off and do Season 3 tomorrow
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Well done for this - is it something you did from earlier recordings, or in the last few days from the iPlayer versions?


Done today - extracted the raw files using the get_iplayer software and chopped out the musical interludes

Especially for those who don't have enough instrumental mixes of Vanishing Point in their lives!
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#22 Posted : 26 September 2023 11:34:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
Well done for this - is it something you did from earlier recordings, or in the last few days from the iPlayer versions?


Done today - extracted the raw files using the get_iplayer software and chopped out the musical interludes

Especially for those who don't have enough instrumental mixes of Vanishing Point in their lives!


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#23 Posted : 26 September 2023 12:14:27(UTC)
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Excellent. Thanks for posting S2.

I’m pretty sure Selfish features in S2 and S3 but I’m always from my Mac at present, so can’t check.

Odd that S2 is credited to S&G rather than New Order. I checked S3 episodes earlier today and they said ‘New Order’.

Please post S3. I’m certainly interested.
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#24 Posted : 26 September 2023 13:29:38(UTC)
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Amazing work this, wets the appetite for the Technique Box Set. Also probably won't bother to watch the show again now and just listen to these, started to watch S1 E1 and wow it's dated (certainly low budget)!!!

On S2, tracks 26, 29 & 37 sound like Selfish to me. S2 sounds more like the O2 overall, don't recognise any other tracks specifically though.

Common as Muck next!
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The music is only credited to Stephen & Gillian on the end credits this time



Looks like it's credited to New Order in episodes 1-7 of S2, but S&G for episode 8.

All S3 episodes are credited to New Order.
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