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#26 Posted : 10 July 2021 04:53:38(UTC)
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All start at £100


PUNK!


Yeah that’s why I won’t be bidding. Way too pricey. Be nice if they were all put up on a website for us all to download. Maybe the winner if they visit this forum could do that!
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ROCKET MICK on 11/07/2021(UTC)
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#27 Posted : 14 July 2021 11:02:34(UTC)
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Well , congratulations to Italy. They were simply the better team. In fact the much better team. Was disappointed with England and Southgate, thought he got it all wrong on Sunday night which was a massive shame after the team and he had done so brilliantly in the previous games. Had to smile at Chiellini yelling “ It’s coming to Rome!!” into the camera. A formidable character, without a doubt.

Left the pub as soon as Saka had his penalty saved. It really stung Sunday night. Thankfully I had a day off work on Monday and woke up puzzled , for a moment I had forgotten what had happened the night before . Then it hit me - oh yeah England lost in their first final since 1966. Still, my spirits soon recovered after a great breakfast and a few beers in the pub Monday afternoon with my brother and a mate as we went through the post mortem dissection. Strangely, this defeat didn’t hurt nearly as much as any of the semi final defeats of tournaments gone by. I guess I was just happy to have seen England in a final for the first time in my life, a thing I never thought would happen. Gonna take a long while though to pick up and think about the World Cup next year, of which of course England still have to qualify. Without doubt England have made a lot of progress under Southgate but really think we could have done a lot more against Italy on Sunday night.

As for the thugs and horrific scenes on Sunday afternoon and early evening leading up to kick off with gangs trying to break into Wembley without tickets and the utter carnage they wrought around Wembley Way and London....moronic, thick shit, fucktards that don’t give a fuck about terrorising genuine fans and their young kids. Well there goes any hope of the 2030 World Cup being hosted on these shores. But then when you’ve got utter moronic, thick shit, fucktards like Boris Johnson running the country what do you expect.

Edit: oh and PS , was Bernard at the game? Saw a pic online that showed him at what looked like in one of the concourses inside the stadium with a couple of people, one of which may have been his son? Not sure . But seems as though he managed to get a ticket?

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#28 Posted : 14 July 2021 12:03:44(UTC)
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But then when you’ve got utter moronic, thick shit, fucktards like Boris Johnson running the country what do you expect.


Ha, don't pull your punches Fotz! Jonathan Pie seems to agree with you though.
Speaking of which, does this count as a World In Motion spot at 0:36?




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#29 Posted : 14 July 2021 12:14:09(UTC)
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^ Thanks for that, D. That Jonathan Pie articulates it all a million times better than my attempt. Spot on, everything he said. What a cesspit, basket case shit hole of a country England is.

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#30 Posted : 14 July 2021 14:27:56(UTC)
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What a cesspit, basket case shit hole of a country England is.


Well, it certainly has its share of morons.

But, a shithole? Not even close.

There’s plenty to love. No war, no famine, clean water etc.
There’s also a whole host of throughly decent people living here (like those good souls who helped to cover up the disturbing defacement of the Rashford mural).

Also, we have the ability in this country to post our criticism of this country and its government. There are several places in the world where that just isn’t possible.

I don’t want to appear preachy, but it just seems a tad daft to say the place you call home is a shit hole, when it’s far from that.

After all, if it was that bad, you’d probably be elsewhere.


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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#31 Posted : 15 July 2021 01:14:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
What a cesspit, basket case shit hole of a country England is.


I quite agree. I used to think the knobheads were in the minority and just part and parcel of living in a free society but in the last few years I've come to realise they're actually the majority. I mean, look at the PM, a boorish, racist, bully boy. No wonder he won't condemn the racists, they're his key demographic when it comes to elections.


No actual war but.. https://www.theguardian....-rise-as-lockdown-lifted

No famine but... https://blogs.bmj.com/bm...verty-a-lost-generation/

and clean water for all? https://www.ccwater.org....r-millions-of-household/


So, I guess, just because you're OK it doesn't mean there's no problems perspexorange. This country is a shit hole.
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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#32 Posted : 15 July 2021 02:36:09(UTC)
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So, I guess, just because you're OK it doesn't mean there's no problems perspexorange. This country is a shit hole.



I didn't say that there weren't any problems in this country. There obviously are.
I just said that it isn't a shithole.

The examples you posted are (presumably) issues that occur in most countries in the developed world.

Also, maybe it's just me, but I probably wouldn't compare the possible 'escalation of violence following lockdown' to the very real dangers faced by many people who are living in a literal war zone, dodging bullets, bombs and landmines every day.

I get the point you are illustrating, but my point is there are far worse places we could be living.

Maybe I'm just a 'glass half full' kind of person.

Anyway, that's the last I'll say on the issue.
This probably isn't the best place to discuss complicated matters and no one wants to hear me witter on about stuff I'm, admittedly, not best at articulating.



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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#33 Posted : 15 July 2021 05:39:54(UTC)
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England is total and utter fucking shit.
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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#34 Posted : 15 July 2021 07:21:41(UTC)
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All start at £100


PUNK!


Yeah that’s why I won’t be bidding. Way too pricey. Be nice if they were all put up on a website for us all to download. Maybe the winner if they visit this forum could do that!


how is that pricey, considering what it is.

granted, it will go for much more. but thats what it should be.

if it was cheap, it would be stuff we've already heard.

(not that i'm bidding, but if i had the money i would).

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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#35 Posted : 21 July 2021 03:30:44(UTC)
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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#36 Posted : 27 August 2021 00:55:07(UTC)
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#37 Posted : 27 August 2021 04:35:50(UTC)
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https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/details/A168-peter-hook-the-new-order-collection/?au=45&fbclid=IwAR0hC1pX_6k4-WGLcTTWWco0vMSHt1K-XAlj_XVIbte7Mlp2Oj8B2WOwyjk


28% fee added to the hammer price. Ouch!

Hooky's done little blurbs for most of these items.
It really looks like a retirement acution, he's even getting rid of records by other people. Albums by Iggy, Bowie, Throbbing Gristle, Talking Heads.
7"s by Kraftwerk, Blondie, Stranglers, Malcolm McLaren...
Lots of NO records of course.- including acetates, test pressings and metal stamper plates.

Some of the equipment is surprisng. Not only lots of bass's/guitars (can he play a normal guitar?), but cabinets/racks full of equiment and his "The End" setup.
There's a New Order Apple Computer. Hooky: When Steve Morris gave me these after the split I said, "What am I supposed to do with this lot?" he said, "This is what happens in a divorce." In fact there's more than one computer and back up hard drives too (for playing live presumably?)

New Order studio tape reels! With comments from Hooky like "1987 was a good year, just knocking ‘Technique’ into shape."
I wonder if "the others" have had a look at this lot...

And for another tape reel, the comment: "Found hidden behind a false wall in the Doves rehearsal room in our old Cheetham Hill rehearsal room and kindly gifted to me by them. Our first gig and the backing tape made to replace Ian Curtis. I had never been so frightened, since the first gig as ‘Warsaw’, supporting the Buzzcocks. There is a photo of the Beach Club at Oozits in the photograph collection. Funny how we went from being the ‘No-Names’ to the ‘Fighting over The Name’.
Martin Hannett JD reels too!

Hooky's comments on the BIg Day Out Package (he covers this in his book, but sightly different here):
We won the Bowling Competition hooray! I say we... meaning me and the road crew. Ken West and Viv Lees gave us a wonderful time here at the so called ‘Big Day Off’. We nearly didn’t make it... Steve decided three weeks away, it was just too much. I was devastated... what a thing to miss out on... I said to Barney, "What a shame it would have been great." He said, “It still will be. I’ll get the guy who did Electronic to do it." Wow! I thought... this bastard will be getting rid of me next! Steve relented thankfully, which was great because I’ve never heard a drummer on Electronic.


I'm tempted by the Little Lewey statuette and the Substance platinum disc(s) award. Maybe I shouldn't flag 'em up here...


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#38 Posted : 27 August 2021 10:07:12(UTC)
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The Atari mega file is an odd one. Steve only ever spoke about using apple kit.
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ROCKET MICK on 07/11/2021(UTC)
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#39 Posted : 28 August 2021 09:30:40(UTC)
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i'm ready.

theres a few choice items i'm looking at.
hoping they wont go into the thousands of pounds.

i can deal with hundreds maybe.

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ROCKET MICK on 07/11/2021(UTC)
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#40 Posted : 04 September 2021 16:35:10(UTC)
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Ex-New Order star Peter Hook flogging legal papers from legendary band’s bitter split

I must have missed the Legal Papers auction lot. Did we know about this particular 'item'?

Quote:
Buyers can now “read for yourself what the fight was about and decide who was right and who was wrong”, the lot description says.


I'm not quite sure they've quite got the reasons right about why Hooky left, but...meh, whatever.

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ROCKET MICK on 07/11/2021(UTC)
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#41 Posted : 05 September 2021 12:34:55(UTC)
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Hooky’s like the turd that won’t flush
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ROCKET MICK on 07/11/2021(UTC)
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#42 Posted : 05 September 2021 18:01:26(UTC)
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Well.... £100 certainly sounds like a bargain for this lot (I'd pay that fot the Republic demos alone)

https://bid.omegaauction...p;pp=48&pn=9&g=1

NEW ORDER ASSORTED CASSETTES
Twelve cassettes to include Republic demos from Nov' 92, Substance 1995 (empty case), 1998 demos cassette, The Rest of New Order double cassette, Dreams Never End bootleg cassette and seven unknown live recordings from unidentified venues/years. A lucky dip for somebody!

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#43 Posted : 05 September 2021 18:28:26(UTC)
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Well.... £100 certainly sounds like a bargain for this lot (I'd pay that fot the Republic demos alone)

https://bid.omegaauction...p;pp=48&pn=9&g=1

NEW ORDER ASSORTED CASSETTES
Twelve cassettes to include Republic demos from Nov' 92, Substance 1995 (empty case), 1998 demos cassette, The Rest of New Order double cassette, Dreams Never End bootleg cassette and seven unknown live recordings from unidentified venues/years. A lucky dip for somebody!

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I assure you if I'm able to purchase that lot I'll be sharing with whoever's interested...you're not the only one that's been looking for the Republic demos.
Although the tape says keyboard only...no vox. Might not be that great in the end...

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#44 Posted : 06 September 2021 05:00:05(UTC)
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I can only presume the Republic demos will be a copy of the 4 tracks mentioned in the past that were circulating as Factory demos.

Will be interesting to know what turns up on these!

Keep us posted Smile


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#45 Posted : 06 September 2021 08:36:53(UTC)
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There's a whole host of auctions I'm interested in. The demos, live recordings, rehearsals etc.

That being said, I can't see myself putting in a bid.
I think they'll probably go for a lot more than I would be able to pay and I hate being disappointed in things like this.




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#46 Posted : 07 September 2021 09:26:24(UTC)
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The Republic demos would be interesting. I always got the impression it started as classic New Order with Regret, Everyone Everywhere and Special, but then Bernard and Steve took over.
He is a fucking deluded little Fucking fucker though, innee.
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#47 Posted : 07 September 2021 10:32:31(UTC)
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The Republic demos would be interesting. I always got the impression it started as classic New Order with Regret, Everyone Everywhere and Special, but then Bernard and Steve took over.
He is a fucking deluded little Fucking fucker though, innee.


Pascal Gabriel is credited with "Pre-Production" on Regret and Young Offender (which I think would have been a better single choice than either Ruined in a Day or Spooky), so presumably those two were the only ones started before Hague was brought in.

I think Everyone Everywhere is actually one of the worst tracks, by the way. Plodding, cloying and lumpy.


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#48 Posted : 07 September 2021 11:28:49(UTC)
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Nothing like Liar, then.
It's a theory I had cos in 92 Hooky told MM the next album would showcase a harder sound to the band and he namechecked EE. Regret, Special and EE are the closest to the blueprint and the only ones they played live (except the mandatory singles) and the ones Stephen mentioned to Select as 'meaning the most to me'.
Young Offender is a frustrating track. It has all the elements of a strong NO track, but just doesn't come off somehow.
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#49 Posted : 07 September 2021 15:37:11(UTC)
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There’s a handful of fairly decent tracks on Republic. Young Offender and World, for instance.

But Regret and Special are where the real magic is. Wonderful tracks and amongst the band’s very best.
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#50 Posted : 07 September 2021 22:34:14(UTC)
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I ain't having this fucking conversation again.
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