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#176 Posted : 23 September 2022 13:53:39(UTC)
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No i live in UK . Can't see how the box set would be affected by her passing. I actually quite liked the Queen on reflection, or maybe i've been brainwashed to think that by recents. She was a decent human being really in comparison to the horrifying "leaders" of the world of recent years like T***p, J*****n' etc

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#177 Posted : 24 September 2022 02:15:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post

I'm making the assumption both of you aren't living in the UK, because in the 11 days from Queenie dying to her funeral taking place, there was quite a media blackout, with many TV, advertising and media companies walking on eggshells to ensure that a certain easily-offended subset of the UK population didn't get upset by such companies seeming to carrying out their usual business.


Probably a good thing you weren’t gagging for news on a box set of the third Smiths’ album instead, Mr D.
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#178 Posted : 24 September 2022 10:52:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Go to Quoted Post
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given the mourning period for The Queen ended earlier this week.

Undoubtedly had a big affect on proceedings. Huge!

Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Indeed. The ending of the mourning period for The Queen will surely and undoubtedly really give the Low Life def box project the boot up the arse it needs to get it finished and ready for release. The two things are inextricably linked!



In summary, I'm desperate to find out a track list and release date for the set, as I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on it!



Don't get too worked up. Jumping the queue for a box is frowned upon.



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#179 Posted : 24 September 2022 11:29:58(UTC)
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I'm just waiting for the tracklisting so I can moan about it. I bought the Movement boxset last month and regretted it soon after, although it is a nice colour.

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#180 Posted : 25 September 2022 13:45:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post

Here's some more speculation: I've always understood that New Order submitted music for Pretty in Pink that was soundtracky and atmospheric. They were then told by the producers something to the effect of "No, we want a song for the soundtrack album" and so rushed to assemble Shellshock.


I'm sure it's old news to the faithful but I only just heard this - John Robie's "One More Shot", which several people claim online was the track New Order reworked with Robie in their rush to put together Shellshock

I guess similar to Arthur Baker and IOU / Confusion





One More Shot

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#181 Posted : 25 September 2022 14:55:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post

I'm sure it's old news to the faithful but I only just heard this - John Robie's "One More Shot", which several people claim online was the track New Order reworked with Robie in their rush to put together Shellshock

I guess similar to Arthur Baker and IOU / Confusion

One More Shot


Funnily enough this came up here on the forum within the past year. Reply #45 and below.

Speaking of IOU, does anyone here do Wordle? I always end up singing the chorus to IOU in my head when thinking about vowels...

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#182 Posted : 07 October 2022 11:23:59(UTC)
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Any news on this?

Gotta be soon...
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#183 Posted : 07 October 2022 12:41:45(UTC)
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If it was this year surely it would have been announced by now.
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#184 Posted : 07 October 2022 13:05:26(UTC)
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Aye, looks like they've left it too late for the christmas market. Which reminds me of that awful flexidisc they made, possibly the worse thing I've ever heard and thankfully rarely mentioned...until now.
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#185 Posted : 07 October 2022 21:43:39(UTC)
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It was delivered to production at the very last minute (for 2022 release). I've no update as to whether anything has delayed it beyond that.
Other releases are still being announced for this year, so maybe there's still time, though not much.
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#186 Posted : 08 October 2022 02:17:23(UTC)
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Thanks JJ. Always good to have mini-updates.


Originally Posted by: tapebias Go to Quoted Post
Which reminds me of that awful flexidisc they made, possibly the worse thing I've ever heard and thankfully rarely mentioned...until now.


I'm fine with the flexi (which technically was released under the 'BeMusic' moniker, rather than the band name).

Obviously the music is a bit daft, but I appreciate that the band thought it might be fun to have a go at a couple of famous songs and put their stamp on them (albeit it in a jokey way). Then releasing them, free to people at their own club as way of a Christmas present. That's pretty cool if you ask me.

I miss the band doing things like that.
Like creating a 22 minute piece of music (Video 5-8-6) and giving it away to a fanzine to release.
Like supplying two of their greatest ever songs (Atmosphere & Dead Souls) to a French 'arty' label that would release them in very limited quantities.
Producing other bands' work, but anonymously under the 'BeMusic' label.
etc.

So many reasons to love this great band.
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#187 Posted : 08 October 2022 04:52:26(UTC)
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Like supplying two of their greatest ever songs (Atmosphere & Dead Souls) to a French 'arty' label that would release them in very limited quantities.'


It used to amaze me that they gave away Atmosphere like that. But i sometimes wonder that they didn't realise at the time what they had created with that song. Sounds impossible or even a mad theory, i know. Maybe only later they realised what an incredible piece of music they'd done?
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#188 Posted : 09 October 2022 11:42:33(UTC)
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Like supplying two of their greatest ever songs (Atmosphere & Dead Souls) to a French 'arty' label that would release them in very limited quantities.'


It used to amaze me that they gave away Atmosphere like that. But i sometimes wonder that they didn't realise at the time what they had created with that song. Sounds impossible or even a mad theory, i know. Maybe only later they realised what an incredible piece of music they'd done?


How about Factory letting them do that!
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#189 Posted : 09 October 2022 11:48:46(UTC)
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Like supplying two of their greatest ever songs (Atmosphere & Dead Souls) to a French 'arty' label that would release them in very limited quantities.'


It used to amaze me that they gave away Atmosphere like that. But i sometimes wonder that they didn't realise at the time what they had created with that song. Sounds impossible or even a mad theory, i know. Maybe only later they realised what an incredible piece of music they'd done?


How about Factory letting them do that!


Haha, yes it did occur to me later after i posted that. A very Factory thing to do.

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#190 Posted : 21 October 2022 21:54:28(UTC)
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FYI, January for Low Life now. Announcement pre-Chistmas.
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#191 Posted : 09 November 2022 23:04:52(UTC)
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Hello guys Hi

Just received The Perfect Kiss (writing session recording) on my Deezer ! Big Grin
3'17

edit : and the Low-Life box cover seems to be light grey...

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#192 Posted : 09 November 2022 23:30:00(UTC)
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Hello guys Hi

Just received The Perfect Kiss (writing session recording) on my Deezer ! Big Grin
3'17

edit : and the Low-Life box cover seems to be light grey...



Also available now on the NewOrder YouTube channel
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#193 Posted : 10 November 2022 00:40:51(UTC)
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And on Amazon Music as the preview track. Can also see the tracklist of the second disc if you search the individual tracks


  • Let's Go (Low-life Session Instrumental)
  • Sub-culture (Low-life Session Instrumental)
  • Skullcrusher (Demo)
  • Sooner Than You Think (Writing Session Recording)
  • Love Vigilantes (TV Pitch Instrumental Edit)
  • Sunrise (Writing Session Recording)
  • Face Up (Writing Session Recording)
  • Untitled 1 (Writing Session Recording)
  • Love Vigilantes (Writing Session Recording)
  • Sunrise (Instrumental Rough Mix)
  • Untitled 2 (Writing Session Recording)
  • Elegia (Full Length Version)
  • Sooner Than You Think (Full Length Version)
  • The Perfect Kiss (Writing Session Recording)


edit: also in order here
https://www.qobuz.com/gb...-new-order/hizoo92hvrgnc

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#194 Posted : 10 November 2022 01:01:17(UTC)
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Also noticed that Let's Go is the only one with a track timing on QOBUZ - and it says 2:01, so it's either an unreleased version or the abbreviated "Let's G..." version from the Retro boxset (which is 2:03)

Sunrise (Instrumental Rough Mix) is presumably the same as the one on the Discreet Campaigns cassette comp

The Record Mirror EP exclusive Sub Culture remix is absent though - a shame as I like that version

Some exciting stuff to look forward to though - if TPK writing demo is anything to go by, these could all be embryonic gems

Plus Untitled tracks and a full length STYT! (I wonder what was edited out, as the LP version has a cold start and a proper ending, so presumably there was a longer instrumental section)



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#195 Posted : 10 November 2022 01:34:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GotBlueEyes Go to Quoted Post

Plus [1] Untitled tracks and [2] a full length STYT! (I wonder what was edited out, as the LP version has a cold start and a proper ending, so presumably there was a longer instrumental section)


These were the exact two thoughts I had. Face Up would be the more obvious contender for a "full length" considering it fades out while Bernard is still singing. There must be an un-faded recordng somewhere? (As there turned out to be for BM in multitrack form)



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Also available now on the NewOrder YouTube channel


So it is!
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#196 Posted : 10 November 2022 02:08:19(UTC)
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All very intriguing. Wondering if one of the untitled ones is that 9 minute instrumental that was or still is available on YouTube. Think there was a Sept 1984 recording date associated with it. It had some qiite melodic passages and also the car skidding noise that they use on live versions of TPK.Hope so.

Curious to hear stuff like a full length STYT .

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#197 Posted : 10 November 2022 03:25:01(UTC)
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Wow! Great stuff!

More thoughts later (I’m in the office today), but excited by a lot of those. STYT extended? Yes please!

Curiously (and a tad disappointingly), there doesn’t appear to be the vocal version of Let’s Go.
But it’s a minor quibble (after all, we have the bootleg).

I wonder if the full-length Elegia is the one we’ve already heard. Hooky mentioned in one of his weekly Covid/Jack chats back in 2020 that he had discovered an even longer version.

Anyone able to find the DVD listing yet?

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#198 Posted : 10 November 2022 03:29:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Wondering if one of the untitled ones is that 9 minute instrumental that was or still is available on YouTube. Think there was a Sept 1984 recording date associated with it. It had some qiite melodic passages and also the car skidding noise that they use on live versions of TPK.Hope so.


Can't immediately find that video. Does anyone have a link?


There is also a bootleg of Let's Go with vocals (completely different lyrics and tune to the later version on the 1963 single) which seems absent on the Boxset tracklist

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#199 Posted : 10 November 2022 03:46:04(UTC)
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Can't immediately find that video. Does anyone have a link?



Last track here, I think. Starts around 1:06:50

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#200 Posted : 10 November 2022 05:57:19(UTC)
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Can't immediately find that video. Does anyone have a link?



Last track here, I think. Starts around 1:06:50



Ah - yes, I did have that track in a bootlegs folder somewhere. Bit rambling and actually nearly 12 minutes long - would be a surprise if that was deemed good enough quality to use on a definitive edition, but we will find out soon!

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