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Mr Discography		#526 Posted : 23 March 2023 23:04:36(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 295 Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 296 post(s)		Perfect Kiss now on Juno Download, iTunes and Spotify, so that'll be at least CD Quality. No sign yet on Qubuz (haven't checked any other sites).

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Mr Discography		#527 Posted : 24 March 2023 04:11:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 295 Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 296 post(s)		Perfect Kiss now on Qobuz as high rez download (24-bit, 96kHz)

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negative1		#528 Posted : 24 March 2023 06:01:17(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,079 Thanks: 756 times Was thanked: 1468 time(s) in 1081 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Perfect Kiss now on Qobuz as high rez download (24-bit, 96kHz) so how does it sound? any better. i'm always suspicous of these remasters if they are any improvement over the regular ones, as i can't really hear the difference. at least they put the perfect pit on there. later \|\| \| \|\| \|\| \| \| \| ne gative 1

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Andy		#529 Posted : 24 March 2023 22:55:06(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,960 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1242 times Was thanked: 2741 time(s) in 1979 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Perfect Kiss now on Qobuz as high rez download (24-bit, 96kHz) so how does it sound? any better. i'm always suspicous of these remasters if they are any improvement over the regular ones, as i can't really hear the difference. at least they put the perfect pit on there. later \|\| \| \|\| \|\| \| \| \| ne gative 1 I know what you mean. After buying versions of the single over the years, the Collector's Edition of Low-Life, the Definitive Edition of Low-Life and the recent mirrored 12", it seems a bit peculiar to an oldster like me. "Yeah, you bought all those physical copies, but this virtual one sounds the best." Even if it is only a few bucks...
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NotAMod		#530 Posted : 25 March 2023 08:35:10(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 633 Location: London, UK Thanks: 164 times Was thanked: 985 time(s) in 635 post(s)		Really glad the Low-life 12" singles are filtering out digitally. Plus in Hi-Res, no less. The Movement/PC&L ones didn't get that treatment. TPK 12" has a chequered history in digital form; first a slightly edited down version on the Substance CD, then a sub-standard vinyl transfer on the original Collector's Editions. By the time the mistake had been corrected on the Low-Life Collector's Edition (second version) I doubt many people got their hands on it. In fairness, I listened to the corrected digital mastering by Giovanni Scatola for over a decade now and it was by no means a bad sound. Up until now, it was all we had of the full 8:49 glory in digital form. All 3 tracks sound pristine, loud enough to compete in a modern market but not loud enough to ruin the tune. Job done. Well done Frank Arkwright. Really looking forward to Sub-culture and Shellshock soon. Next week, perhaps?

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Johnny James		#531 Posted : 26 March 2023 00:23:42(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 408 Location: UK Was thanked: 811 time(s) in 408 post(s)		Those initial Collectors Editions were from dodgy U-Matics with not enough care taken in the transfer, never copied from vinyl. The U-Matics are not very good now, some won't even play. A digital format that has not lasted.

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NotAMod		#532 Posted : 26 March 2023 08:23:52(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 633 Location: London, UK Thanks: 164 times Was thanked: 985 time(s) in 635 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Johnny James Those initial Collectors Editions were from dodgy U-Matics with not enough care taken in the transfer, never copied from vinyl. Really? Fascinating. That's some archaic audiovisual format. I take it the original master tapes were unavailable at the time? There is that story when Factory "closed" the master tapes were chucked into a skip. From what I've read over the years, the JDNO album master tapes were always safe (in a safe, probably), but the single master tapes might've been a different story? Thanks JJ. Edited by user 26 March 2023 08:59:45(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Johnny James		#533 Posted : 26 March 2023 10:48:47(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 408 Location: UK Was thanked: 811 time(s) in 408 post(s)		Originally Posted by: NotAMod Originally Posted by: Johnny James Those initial Collectors Editions were from dodgy U-Matics with not enough care taken in the transfer, never copied from vinyl. Really? Fascinating. That's some archaic audiovisual format. I take it the original master tapes were unavailable at the time? There is that story when Factory "closed" the master tapes were chucked into a skip. From what I've read over the years, the JDNO album master tapes were always safe (in a safe, probably), but the single master tapes might've been a different story? Thanks JJ. Plenty of masters exist in different forms. I'm sure some tapes might have been lost, but most studio sessions produced masters and copy masters. Then there are production masters. I don't think we've had too much that is totally lost so far.

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Andy		#534 Posted : 26 March 2023 11:05:55(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,960 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1242 times Was thanked: 2741 time(s) in 1979 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Johnny James Originally Posted by: NotAMod Originally Posted by: Johnny James Those initial Collectors Editions were from dodgy U-Matics with not enough care taken in the transfer, never copied from vinyl. Really? Fascinating. That's some archaic audiovisual format. I take it the original master tapes were unavailable at the time? There is that story when Factory "closed" the master tapes were chucked into a skip. From what I've read over the years, the JDNO album master tapes were always safe (in a safe, probably), but the single master tapes might've been a different story? Thanks JJ. Plenty of masters exist in different forms. I'm sure some tapes might have been lost, but most studio sessions produced masters and copy masters. Then there are production masters. I don't think we've had too much that is totally lost so far. Spill the beans. Does this mean we'll finally get a proper release of "The Happy One" in the next four or five years?
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Johnny James		#535 Posted : 26 March 2023 22:38:49(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 408 Location: UK Was thanked: 811 time(s) in 408 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Andy Originally Posted by: Johnny James Originally Posted by: NotAMod Originally Posted by: Johnny James Those initial Collectors Editions were from dodgy U-Matics with not enough care taken in the transfer, never copied from vinyl. Really? Fascinating. That's some archaic audiovisual format. I take it the original master tapes were unavailable at the time? There is that story when Factory "closed" the master tapes were chucked into a skip. From what I've read over the years, the JDNO album master tapes were always safe (in a safe, probably), but the single master tapes might've been a different story? Thanks JJ. Plenty of masters exist in different forms. I'm sure some tapes might have been lost, but most studio sessions produced masters and copy masters. Then there are production masters. I don't think we've had too much that is totally lost so far. Spill the beans. Does this mean we'll finally get a proper release of "The Happy One" in the next four or five years? It's fairly likely.

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Mike C.		#536 Posted : 27 March 2023 07:11:54(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 128 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Thanks: 193 times Was thanked: 149 time(s) in 128 post(s)		Does anyone know if the band and label are happy with the sales of Low Life so far? Wondering if it has met expectations.
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NotAMod		#537 Posted : 07 April 2023 01:04:59(UTC)
Rank: Moderator Groups: Moderators, Administrators, Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 633 Location: London, UK Thanks: 164 times Was thanked: 985 time(s) in 635 post(s)		Sub-Culture (2022 Digital Master) out today. Junodownload only so far, so that's CD quality 44/16. Hoping it will appear in Hi-Res (as TPK did) on services such as Qobuz, HDtracks etc. later in the day.

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Mr Discography		#538 Posted : 07 April 2023 05:22:46(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 295 Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 296 post(s)		That's good news. I'll also be waiting for it to drop on Qobuz - no idea why they don't get new releases on my their site first thing on release dates. Very odd. This release two weeks after TPK suggests we'll finally get digital versions of Shellshock full 12" and Shellcock on Friday 21 April.

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Jcp7		#539 Posted : 07 April 2023 06:27:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 505 Location: Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 575 time(s) in 507 post(s)		It's available on Qobuz.
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Mike C.		#540 Posted : 09 April 2023 07:28:24(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 128 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Thanks: 193 times Was thanked: 149 time(s) in 128 post(s)		Hope this continues with the Movement era singles.
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negative1		#541 Posted : 09 April 2023 08:59:48(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,079 Thanks: 756 times Was thanked: 1468 time(s) in 1081 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mike C. Hope this continues with the Movement era singles. why would it have anything to do with the movement singles. thats not being promoted. later \|\| \|\|\| \| \| \|\| negative1

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Mike C.		#542 Posted : 09 April 2023 15:08:41(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 128 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Thanks: 193 times Was thanked: 149 time(s) in 128 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: Mike C. Hope this continues with the Movement era singles. why would it have anything to do with the movement singles. thats not being promoted. later \|\| \|\|\| \| \| \|\| negative1 Movement era singles were not released digitally in N America.
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contrique		#543 Posted : 09 April 2023 18:49:20(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 25/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 20 Location: Brazil Thanks: 41 times Was thanked: 23 time(s) in 20 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mike C. Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: Mike C. Hope this continues with the Movement era singles. why would it have anything to do with the movement singles. thats not being promoted. later \|\| \|\|\| \| \| \|\| negative1 Movement era singles were not released digitally in N America. Temptation, Everythings gone green and Ceremony available on Deezer. However, when I click/tap, they say I can't load that page Edited by user 11 April 2023 17:00:38(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Mr Discography		#544 Posted : 20 April 2023 22:02:37(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 295 Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 296 post(s)		Just had a browse here at 7am in UK. Shellshock/Shellcock currently available on Spotify, Amazon and Juno Download. Oddly, not iTunes yet. As in previous weeks, I'm going to wait until it appears in hi-rez later on in the day on Qobuz (hopefully). Amazing it took 37 years for these two versions to become available digitally!

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Mr Discography		#545 Posted : 21 April 2023 04:58:25(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 295 Thanks: 2 times Was thanked: 467 time(s) in 296 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr Discography Just had a browse here at 7am in UK. Shellshock/Shellcock currently available on Spotify, Amazon and Juno Download. Oddly, not iTunes yet. As in previous weeks, I'm going to wait until it appears in hi-rez later on in the day on Qobuz (hopefully). Amazing it took 37 years for these two versions to become available digitally! Now on Qobuz in HD

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