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#226 Posted : 23 November 2020 13:50:21(UTC)
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Yes, on the download version of Bernard's Renegade mix there is a guitar solo from 3.43 to 4.12 that isn't on the vinyl version.On the vinyl version the same melody in that time section is on a synth instead. The download version length is 6.25 whereas the vinyl i timed at a bit longer at around 6.31


On Bernard's Renegade instrumental there is a guitar solo from 3.22 to 4.02 on the download which doesn't appear at all on the vinyl.The download version of that mix is 6.18 whereas on the vinyl it's 6.31 again.

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#227 Posted : 24 November 2020 00:34:36(UTC)
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Thanks for the update Fotz.

I wonder why they were changed.

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#228 Posted : 24 November 2020 08:20:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Yes, on the download version of Bernard's Renegade mix there is a guitar solo from 3.43 to 4.12 that isn't on the vinyl version.On the vinyl version the same melody in that time section is on a synth instead. The download version length is 6.25 whereas the vinyl i timed at a bit longer at around 6.31


On Bernard's Renegade instrumental there is a guitar solo from 3.22 to 4.02 on the download which doesn't appear at all on the vinyl.The download version of that mix is 6.18 whereas on the vinyl it's 6.31 again.



thanks, i'll have to make a note of that when i update my listings for their songs.

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#229 Posted : 24 November 2020 08:45:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Thanks for the update Fotz.

I wonder why they were changed.



I suspect it's merely a mistake, no different than the variations of In a Lonely Place.

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#230 Posted : 24 November 2020 11:32:52(UTC)
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Thanks for the update Fotz.

I wonder why they were changed.



I suspect it's merely a mistake, no different than the variations of In a Lonely Place.



No, it's because Bernard kept tweaking it after the vinyl had been cut. The lead-in times are so long for vinyl and he wasn't done with it.
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#231 Posted : 25 November 2020 05:28:21(UTC)
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it's because Bernard kept tweaking it after the vinyl had been cut. The lead-in times are so long for vinyl and he wasn't done with it.


Thanks, that seemed more likely to me.
It's one thing to miss spotting a mix that has a few thunderclaps a bit higher in the mix, and allowing that slip out.
It seems another entirely to miss spotting mixes that have additional guitar parts.

If we were back in the Factory days though, I'd totally believe it was a mistake. Big Grin



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#232 Posted : 25 November 2020 06:11:11(UTC)
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Well I ripped the vinyl versions of Bernard’s renegade and renegade instrumental so anyone that didn’t buy the vinyl and hadn’t heard the versions without guitar , PM me with an email address and I can send them using WeTransfer.

The rips aren’t brilliant quality as my ripping software isn’t the best but they’re fairly listenable.
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#233 Posted : 25 November 2020 06:35:37(UTC)
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I've sent you a PM.
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Fotz on 25/11/2020(UTC)
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#234 Posted : 26 November 2020 10:10:59(UTC)
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Thank you Fotz Wink

I listened to and compared the two versions of the Bernard's Renegade mix. The structures are the same. IMO, the different timings are due to the speed of the vinyl.
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