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#26 Posted : 12 March 2020 00:44:12(UTC)
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Anyone know who the support is for the Sunday Forum gig?
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ROCKET MICK on 13/03/2020(UTC)
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#27 Posted : 12 March 2020 06:26:04(UTC)
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The Forum:

7:00pm Doors open
​​​​​​​8:00pm Cut Copy
9:00pm New Order
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#28 Posted : 12 March 2020 13:29:50(UTC)
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Melbourne F1 Grand Prix just cancelled here last minute. These gigs must be on shakier ground than ever.
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#29 Posted : 12 March 2020 19:49:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post
Melbourne F1 Grand Prix just cancelled here last minute. These gigs must be on shakier ground than ever.


A McLaren team member tested positive. The teams had previously agreed that if one team was banned from travel, the races would not take place.

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#30 Posted : 12 March 2020 20:03:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post
These gigs must be on shakier ground than ever.


It's a tough call to make, and quite possible.

The Pixies just cancelled the rest of their Oz tour - were going to be playing here in Brisbane last night and tonight. Oh well

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#31 Posted : 13 March 2020 00:13:27(UTC)
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Looks like they’ll defy most other events in town right now and play – given their most recent tweets.
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#32 Posted : 13 March 2020 02:15:31(UTC)
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http://www.neworder.com/...3/13/melbourne-2020.html

Melbourne 2020
This afternoon, the Australian Government advised that all non-essential gatherings of more than 500 people be suspended from Monday 16 March onward. We have decided to proceed with our Sidney Myer Music Bowl show on Saturday night. However, after long deliberation and with great reluctance, we have decided to cancel our second show in Melbourne. It’s not a decision taken lightly and we do not cancel shows but these are exceptional times. We apologise wholeheartedly to all our loyal fans who rushed out to buy tickets for The Forum show.

take care, people down there.

later
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#33 Posted : 13 March 2020 02:38:10(UTC)
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Yep. Proceeding with the bigger showpiece gig but canning the far better venue. A bit each way.

Now of course there are punters who’ve paid but angry it’s proceeding. You can’t win this one.
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#34 Posted : 13 March 2020 12:44:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post
Yep. Proceeding with the bigger showpiece gig but canning the far better venue. A bit each way.

Now of course there are punters who’ve paid but angry it’s proceeding. You can’t win this one.


Disappointed as I had tickets for both but understandable. Feel a bit sheepish about going but we have airline tickets, hotel booked, the kids are going to the big Harry Potter show Sunday...hopefully we're making the right decision :/

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#35 Posted : 14 March 2020 04:56:54(UTC)
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Times Change intro
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Regret
Age of Consent
Restless
Krafty
Your Silent Face
Tutti Frutti
World
Subculture
Bizarre Love Triangle
Vanishing Point
Fine Time
Guilt Is A Useless Emotion
Plastic
True Faith
Blue Monday
Temptation
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Transmission
Love Will Tear Us Apart
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#36 Posted : 14 March 2020 05:35:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post

World
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Fine Time


Ooh!

When is someone going to tell Bernard that Guilt Is A Useless Tune shouldn't be anywhere near the setlist?
There are so many great tunes that could fill that space. My experience of it is that everyone just waits for it to be over.


Well, this may be the last gig NO play for quite some time now. Perfect excuse to get in the studio and stay busy (!).

Wishing all NO fans good health around the world.
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#37 Posted : 14 March 2020 19:42:33(UTC)
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Sidney Myer Music Bowl - Melbourne review: SydneyMorningHerald
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ROCKET MICK on 17/03/2020(UTC)
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#38 Posted : 14 March 2020 21:46:12(UTC)
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Was anyone else disappointed by the sound? Muddier and much quieter than Cut Copy, especially early. But the lack of bass never improved and affected my enjoyment of the show. A pity because everything else was in place and I appeciated the setlist - a number of tracks I’d never heard them do in person
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#39 Posted : 14 March 2020 23:31:18(UTC)
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Hi M1. Couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately this will go down as my worst ever NO gig for sound quality, hands down. Hope it’s not my last live memory of seeing the band.

It was ridiculously easy to get right down the front so I wondered if the acoustics were affected by my location. But I heard similar complaints from others up on the lawn. Plus they had crosswinds to deal with.

Bass was mixed way too low and Barney’s vocals were muffled to the point where I couldn’t make out a single comment between songs all night. They seemed to improve the quality a bit as it went on, but it was so bad early that it took me an entire verse to identify Reckless.

It was nice looking backwards during the gig and enjoying an amphitheatre packed with Melbourne NO fans, but it came at significant cost. I haven’t seen enough gigs there to know if audio is usually this terrible but I’d avoid going back there. And to think that in one more day we’d have had The Forum, such a perfect venue.
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#40 Posted : 15 March 2020 00:18:55(UTC)
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Thank you! I was beginning to think it was just me. I remember grinning like a loon when Age of Consent started up but by the end of it I was nearly in tears. All energy sucked out of the mix, the bass which drives that track, nowhere to be heard. We chose not to go right down the front but stay in our peachy spot on the terrace since Cut Copy sounded sublime. Ironically we were right next to the mixing desk - sadly many of the videos my wife took are spoiled by me screaming at them to TURN THE FUCKING BASS UP!! Totally botched what was otherwise a great night. Not sure the average punter noticed to be fair but I did and it was disappointing. Wish I was at The Forum tonight...as it is I’m going back to my hotel to watch TV before flying back tomorrow :(
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#41 Posted : 15 March 2020 01:04:21(UTC)
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I’ve seen them every tour to Australia since 1987 and felt it was a good show. Barney was clearly giving it his best, and I thought they all had a great time playing. The sound at the Sidney Music Bowl is very location dependent - get too close in the centre and it is often not loud enough.

I was in the fourth row on the left side under the speaker and the sound was pretty good. I didn’t have a lack of bass where I was. Age of Consent was epic, the high point of the night.

The video behind the band was their best ever. They were often playing in low light though, so I wonder what the view was like from the lawn?

There was a glitch with the first verse of Restless, as Barney turned his Mike off - so there was no vocal until he fixed it.

It was great to get songs like Fine Time that I had never heard live before, but I wish Barney played a few extra guitar songs - there was a stretch of 8 guitar less dance songs between YSF and True Faith.

I’m pleased it went ahead, and hopefully we will get them back here in a couple of years.
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#42 Posted : 15 March 2020 07:07:56(UTC)
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Crazy to read it was so much better where you were Talbs, but I believe you. I was standing at the front, central and maybe three rows from stage. Sadly Sydney was the better gig for me, mainly down to the audio and more intimate environment. Can’t complain about getting Fine Time here, pretty sure it’s a first for me too.

I was underaged for the 1987 tour, still kills me to this day! Being obsessed by NO and in Perth at the time, I could’ve popped my cherry at the ‘lost’ Canterbury Court/Red Parrot gigs.

Seeing as we were tour-less in AU from then until 2002, I’ve still managed around 15 gigs both here and UK. Better late than never.

And as for guitars, I was also surprised neither Crystal (huge in AU) nor Ceremony (still epic live) got a look-in here.

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#43 Posted : 15 March 2020 08:53:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: depthcharge Go to Quoted Post
I was also surprised neither Crystal (huge in AU) nor Ceremony (still epic live) got a look-in here.


I’m always surprised by the fact that Ceremony gets played so rarely.

But, I guess that’s the beauty of it - when it does get played, it sounds incredible.

Also, audience reaction (certainly in the UK, but probably elsewhere) can be downright scary with that track, turning relatively quiet gigs to frenzied occasions, within the space of the opening bars.

I was at a gig with a mate a few years ago. It was his first NO gig.
We’re right at the front, having a nice time.
Ceremony starts up and, suddenly, we’re in the thick of it, fists flying, people jumping etc.

My mate was shocked to the say the least. I’d forgotten to warn him. 😊

Saying that, it had been my first NO gig for 14 years, so kind of thought all NO fans were past that.
Glad I was wrong. 😀
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#44 Posted : 15 March 2020 16:29:36(UTC)
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As for the seating I don’t know the venue and I bow to those with seasoned knowledge but we were in a bloody good central spot where the sound for the previous two bands was loud, pumping and crystal clear. Regret came on and straight away you knew something was wrong, only improving marginally as the show went on.
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#45 Posted : 15 March 2020 20:26:58(UTC)
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M1, I must have been standing pretty close to you while Cut Copy was on, I only moved down towards the front for New Order.

I agree the mix for Cut Copy was pretty good.

New Order were definitely louder than Cut Copy where I moved to. I suspect my perspective of the sound was clouded by being closer to the speaker?

As for previous NO gigs (this was number 9) my all time favourite was 2001 at the Metro followed by Festival Hall in 1987 and the Vivid shows.

This one does rate somewhat down the list, but was somewhat elevated by current events.
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#46 Posted : 16 March 2020 00:49:03(UTC)
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I loved it. I didn't really notice the audio issues, though it's true none of Bernard's banter and comments between songs were audible which is a shame because he's normally very witty.

I was 1 person away from the front, to the right. Had a clear view of Bernard, Tom, and Gillian.
I agree with the above comment, Barney really performed well. His dancing also has improved since last time (in 2012).

I got a t-shirt but it's too small. We'll see if they'll be available online, you'll have to buy 1 size up.
They had some Japanese t-shirts, probably from the cancelled JP performances.

Loved seeing Cut Copy. They've been a favourite band of mine and they were pretty impressive.
I like how during their performance it was light and slightly windy and then when NO came on it was dark and still, helped segment the night.

During NO this one guy in the audience kept exclaiming "that's a mellotron!" when Barney was playing the melodica which I found pretty funny.
At the end the woman next to me caught Chapman's pick, I loved seeing the joy it brought her.
Gillian seemed a bit lifeless, Barney stole the show even letting someone in the audience sing part of a song at one moment. Really just full of life.

Hard to choose a favourite song. Subculture, Age Of Consent, Love Vigilantes, Fine Time...
It was nice to hear songs from Music Complete since it's release.
Really just a great collection of songs, even the Times Change intro I found pretty exciting since Republic isn't everyone's favourite.
Guilt Is a Useless Emotion is probably my favourite NO song from the 00's decade, I like that they played it.

Lots of people wearing Joy Division merchandise. Lots of old people with grey hair, but also plenty of people probably in their 40's and younger. (I'm 20-something)

I know it's an Australian thing to whinge, but you guys should be grateful because they were THIS close to cancelling the gig.
If it were 2 days later they'd have no choice but to cancel it.
The performance is nothing but a pure gift. Other bands don't even bother come to Melbourne.

By the way it looked like it was being filmed professionally with at least 1 camera for some of the songs.
Originally Posted by: Talbs Go to Quoted Post
M1, I must have been standing pretty close to you while Cut Copy was on, I only moved down towards the front for New Order.

I agree the mix for Cut Copy was pretty good.

New Order were definitely louder than Cut Copy where I moved to. I suspect my perspective of the sound was clouded by being closer to the speaker?

As for previous NO gigs (this was number 9) my all time favourite was 2001 at the Metro followed by Festival Hall in 1987 and the Vivid shows.

This one does rate somewhat down the list, but was somewhat elevated by current events.

NO were louder than Cut Copy to my ears as well.
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#47 Posted : 16 March 2020 05:49:53(UTC)
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Good to hear that Vanishing Point got played (its my favourite track off Technique and it didn't get played in Miami the night I was there), but a shame about the issues with the sound for some of you.
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#48 Posted : 19 March 2020 03:11:26(UTC)
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Another Sidney Myer Music Bowl review: https://themusic.com.au/...el/Mz4vJyYpKCs/16-03-20/
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#49 Posted : 20 March 2020 13:12:27(UTC)
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I understand it's still tough for some of you to see a historic band without a key member... But don't worry. Maybe next time Victoria will say yes.
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