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#1 Posted : 18 August 2019 12:53:23(UTC)
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Does anyone know whether there were official videos for the Perfecto Mixes of either 'True Faith' or 'World'?

I have a vague memory of seeing a video for the Perfecto Mix of 'True Faith' back in the day on MTV / VH-1, but I can't be absolutely sure.
I seem to think it had additional footage from the standard video interspersed into it.

I may have just dreamt it though or maybe I'm confusing it with the additional bits used on the (best of) video as interstitials.

I've also seen reference to a video for the Perfecto Mis of 'World' online, but this seems more unlikely. I certainly have never seen such a video.

Anyone know for definite?



Hmmm - thinking about it, I may well have asked this question a few years ago, but I don't think there was a definitive answer.
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#2 Posted : 18 August 2019 13:12:27(UTC)
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You seem to be on a super-completist fan kick at the moment...

Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post

I've also seen reference to a video for the Perfecto Mis of 'World' online, but this seems more unlikely. I certainly have never seen such a video.


Y'know Spotnick/Nic who actually runs this forum (but we don't see much of around here any more)?
I remember him posting a video of a Much Music or MTV presenter talking whilst the Perfecto mix of World + video were playing behind him.
I think he posted it to prove that it existed, despite those at the record company saying it didn't. It may have been on the now-defunct old forum.
And...that's all I can contribute to this conversation.

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#3 Posted : 18 August 2019 13:22:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
You seem to be on a super-completist fan kick at the moment...


I always am! :-)
To be fair though, this time, I'm not so much looking to complete my collection, as trying to establish whether I dreamt up seeing the video. Of course, if anyone has a copy, I wouldn't turn it down. ;-)

Anyway, it never harms to post - keep the board ticking along (it's been a little quiet of late).

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Y'know Spotnick/Nic who actually runs this forum (but we don't see much of around here any more)?
I remember him posting a video of a Much Music or MTV presenter talking whilst the Perfecto mix of World + video were playing behind him.
I think he posted it to prove that it existed, despite those at the record company saying it didn't. It may have been on the now-defunct old forum.
And...that's all I can contribute to this conversation.



That's good to know. Sounds like the 'World' one does exist then. Weird how people went to the trouble of making these things, only for them to hardly be shown.

PS It does look like I've asked the question before:

http://forums.neworderon...sts&t=3939#post26106

I'm getting boring in my old age.

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#4 Posted : 18 August 2019 13:57:10(UTC)
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Oh there’s definitely a version of the World video with the Perfecto mix. Seen it loads of times. Can’t remember where though. Is it not on Item or something? Must have seen it on one of the music channels countless times in years gone by. Is it not on YouTube?

Not sure I’ve ever seen one for True Faith Perfecto though.
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#5 Posted : 18 August 2019 23:16:06(UTC)
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Thanks. So a Perfecto Video of World does exist?

What’s it look like? Is it just a rehash of the standard video (i.e. the one shot in Cannes)?
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#6 Posted : 19 August 2019 00:48:03(UTC)
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True Faith 94 perfecto video does exist, it was shown on MTV at the time. I might have a tape of it somewhere...not labelled up and easy to find, unfortunately.
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#7 Posted : 19 August 2019 00:59:31(UTC)
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Both seem to exist in the Warner tape list, if that helps. I haven't got transfers of either though.
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#8 Posted : 19 August 2019 03:00:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: indiearchivist Go to Quoted Post
True Faith 94 perfecto video does exist, it was shown on MTV at the time. I might have a tape of it somewhere...not labelled up and easy to find, unfortunately.


Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post
Both seem to exist in the Warner tape list, if that helps. I haven't got transfers of either though.


Great. Thanks both. Proves I'm not imagining things.

indiearchivist - if you ever find the tape, please look me up.
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#9 Posted : 19 August 2019 04:10:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Thanks. So a Perfecto Video of World does exist?

What’s it look like? Is it just a rehash of the standard video (i.e. the one shot in Cannes)?


The video is exactly the same (b&w Cannes thing).
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#10 Posted : 19 August 2019 05:05:56(UTC)
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Ah, OK. Ta.
Presumably, the Perfecto 'Edit' then? Else they'd need to have lengthen the video to match the 7:36 of the full-length 'Mix'.
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#11 Posted : 19 August 2019 05:40:00(UTC)
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Yep as the poster further up stated, it's the same vid (Cannes) for World Perfecto and yes it's the edit.Maybe clipped the video or repeated a scene to fit to length? Can't recall how timing for Perfecto Edit compares with the edit for the original version used on the video.Maybe the Perfecto edit is shorter than the original video edit so possibly it starts closer to shore and doesn't start further out in the sea? I'm sure i've seen it quite a few times but where i can't remember.Must have been on some music channel on tv.
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#12 Posted : 19 August 2019 06:58:43(UTC)
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The official video is 4:22, and the music doesn't kick in for 21 seconds, until the lady waves with her scarf. It then loops the opening measure of the song several times, and goes into the radio edit, which is 3:41.

The Perfecto Edit is 4:05, so the video doesn't require any editing. They just swapped out the music.
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#13 Posted : 19 August 2019 07:46:07(UTC)
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Thanks both. That makes sense.

I’m guessing that the main reason it isn’t on YouTube is down to the fact that the automatic filters recognise the video as copyright and stops the upload.
Bit of a shame.

I guess I’m not missing too much by not seeing it.

Would really like to see the True Faith one again. Just to confirm whether it does have any extra bits to it.
I thought that there were extra ‘previously unseen’ bits but, as I said previously, maybe I’m confusing it with the joining bits on ‘best of’ vid.
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#14 Posted : 19 August 2019 09:27:19(UTC)
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You could make your own video.As the video is exactly the same just rip it from YouTube if you don't already have it, mute the original soundtrack and add in the Perfecto Edit at the required point.Hell, even a technological luddite like me could do that in Windows Movie Maker.I might have a go when i get time.

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I clearly remember there was a Perfecto remix of True Faith shown once on MTV as I was into manically taping anything JD/NO related at the time as I had only gotten MTV (cable of any sort really) in '93. Of course I missed taping that particular version of the video.
It had some extra scenes of the guys in costumes and something looking like filming outtakes. Definitely not identical to the standard video which I had on a copy's copy of Substance for a while. No NO members in any scenes.
I think it was during a chart show or something and it was interrupted by some kind of a MTV novelty clip; however the repeat of the show when I had my video at the ready showed the usual TF.
Hope this helps although it probably doesn't.
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ROCKET MICK on 18/10/2019(UTC)
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#16 Posted : 19 August 2019 14:08:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
You could make your own video.As the video is exactly the same just rip it from YouTube if you don't already have it, mute the original soundtrack and add in the Perfecto Edit at the required point.Hell, even a technological luddite like me could do that in Windows Movie Maker.I might have a go when i get time.


Yep. I could do that. Pretty good plan.
I’m not sure I have the technical wizardry though. Also, I guess, if the video isn’t any different, there probably isn’t much point in me either trying to hunt it down or make a version.
I guess I could just play the video with the sound turned down on the telly, with the CD turned up. Big Grin

Originally Posted by: Jul Go to Quoted Post
I clearly remember there was a Perfecto remix of True Faith shown once on MTV as I was into manically taping anything JD/NO related at the time as I had only gotten MTV (cable of any sort really) in '93. Of course I missed taping that particular version of the video.
It had some extra scenes of the guys in costumes and something looking like filming outtakes. Definitely not identical to the standard video which I had on a copy's copy of Substance for a while. No NO members in any scenes.
I think it was during a chart show or something and it was interrupted by some kind of a MTV novelty clip; however the repeat of the show when I had my video at the ready showed the usual TF.
Hope this helps although it probably doesn't.


It really does help. Confirms to me what I always thought I remembered (i.e. additional footage featured).
Makes me want to see it all the more now. Frown

I only saw it once (I think it was late at night and I was probably drunk) and was shocked that there was a different video.
Pity I didn’t have a tape loaded in the recorder at the time. Seem to think I only caught it halfway through anyway.

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#17 Posted : 21 August 2019 00:41:22(UTC)
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Maybe of interest http://forums.neworderon...sts&t=3939#post26106
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