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#1 Posted : 11 August 2018 08:36:05(UTC)
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Many thanks to perspexorange who kindly sent me this recently.

Um, am i the only person who'd never seen this? I'd never seen it til perspexorange sent me it.It's not the version that is on the 'Best Of' VHS.The version (the 94 one) on there that's clips of all the other New Order videos.This version was, i think, only available if you bought the International compilation on iTunes? Or the U.S. release of International.

It's bloody ace.IMHO much better than the original True Faith video.Much more footage from Glastonbury 87.Hooky actually features a lot in it (not just his left leg), more shots of the crowd and great clips of Barney going bonkers throwing his guitar across the stage and then an amp (i'm guessing that footage was at the end of the set when they did Sister Ray?)


I tried to upload to YouTube but, predictably and unsurprisingly, it was removed immediately because of copyright.Ah well, you can but try.


Anyway, if you've never seen it send me a pm with an email address and i can send it you using WeTransfer (you don't have to have a WeTransfer account).


It's well worth seeing.
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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2018(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 11 August 2018 08:48:13(UTC)
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Yes, it's on the International comp that came with a bonus DVD. Also includes the official short edit of The Perfect Kiss.
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#3 Posted : 11 August 2018 17:24:57(UTC)
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Am I the only one who thinks Fine Young Cannibals' video for She Drives Me Crazy (from 1989) may have borrowed an idea from True Faith?



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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2018(UTC)
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#4 Posted : 11 August 2018 21:15:01(UTC)
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Am I the only one who thinks Fine Young Cannibals' video for She Drives Me Crazy (from 1989) may have borrowed an idea from True Faith?






... same director(Philippe Decouflé) and choreographer for both videos, that's why.
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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2018(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 12 August 2018 10:47:25(UTC)
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Yeah, I remember when that FYC video was released, it was heralded as being the new video by the director of the True Faith video.
When I saw it, I remember thinking ‘well that was a bit of a rip-off’.

Glad you liked the ‘alternate’ video, Fotz. It is certainly even better than the original video. I think even Hooky would be pleased with it (he reportedly wasn’t very pleased that pleased only his knee featured in the original one).
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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2018(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 12 August 2018 12:46:37(UTC)
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Yes, definitely some new Glasto footage there compared to the other videos. Not all from TF though (as you've already pointed out). The Shergold Marathon 6 bit looks like it is from Subculture (in the audience vid you can see the camera team zooming in on Hooky during the Subculture solo)
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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2018(UTC)
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#7 Posted : 13 August 2018 12:51:58(UTC)
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Am I the only one who thinks Fine Young Cannibals' video for She Drives Me Crazy (from 1989) may have borrowed an idea from True Faith?





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ROCKET MICK on 15/08/2018(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 15 August 2018 10:52:06(UTC)
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i remember stumbling across that alternative true faith video on youtube years aqo and have never found it since
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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#9 Posted : 17 August 2018 15:04:31(UTC)
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... well if anyone stumbles across this video again, please post a link. never knew about this alternate version, until this thread.
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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#10 Posted : 17 August 2018 15:36:00(UTC)
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Well, i tried putting it on Vimeo.

https://vimeo.com/285574646
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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#11 Posted : 17 August 2018 15:57:45(UTC)
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Also of interest, indiearchivist pointed me in the direction of this.Someone has very cleverly synced the Radio 1 Glastonbury 87 New Order In Concert with the audience recorded video of the gig and for True Faith edited in the bits where Barney is seen singing in the True Faith video.Go to 18 mins 38 seconds in.I did watch the audience recorded video years ago but at the end of the gig after Sister Ray it's the part seen in the alternate True Faith video that has footage of Barney throwing his guitar and then an amp across the stage.
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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#12 Posted : 17 August 2018 17:30:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
Well, i tried putting it on Vimeo.

https://vimeo.com/285574646


... that worked, thanks! only took me 31 years to see it!


now that i've seen the added concert footage, how often did Barney get angry on stage(in the 80's) to the point where he would throw physical tantrums(throwing/destroying gear, etc)? i saw NO a few times in the 80's, and he never did this at any of the shows i was at.

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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#13 Posted : 18 August 2018 02:32:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
Also of interest, indiearchivist pointed me in the direction of this.Someone has very cleverly synced the Radio 1 Glastonbury 87 New Order In Concert with the audience recorded video of the gig and for True Faith edited in the bits where Barney is seen singing in the True Faith video.Go to 18 mins 38 seconds in.I did watch the audience recorded video years ago but at the end of the gig after Sister Ray it's the part seen in the alternate True Faith video that has footage of Barney throwing his guitar and then an amp across the stage.


This is great! Never seen it before. A very nice job, indeed.

You know, watching that video makes you remember just how bloody brilliant and unique the band was in the 80s.
Not that they aren't great now - it's just that with those 80s gigs, they seemed so exciting and unpredictable.

Watching that alternate True Faith video and looking at the additional 'clown' bits that were added, they seem quite similar to some of the bits used in the '? (the best of) New Order' VHS; the bits used to link the videos.

I've decided to put these clips on youtube, just in case anyone is interested. Here they are:

http://www.youtube.com/w...h?v=D0KJfhHVAxA&t=1s

Edited by user 19 August 2018 05:08:13(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#14 Posted : 18 August 2018 02:34:23(UTC)
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Damn. Tried to do a link like Fotz did above (with the video able to be played within the forum) but I failed.
This is obviously beyond my technical ability...

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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#15 Posted : 18 August 2018 02:58:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Damn. Tried to do a link like Fotz did above (with the video able to be played within the forum) but I failed.
This is obviously beyond my technical ability...


Remove the s from https. Debaser informed me of this sometime back. Dunno how it makes the difference but it just does.
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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#16 Posted : 18 August 2018 03:35:16(UTC)
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Cheers.

The board won't let me edit the link for some reason (detected as spam).

Will try to post a decent link here:

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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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#17 Posted : 20 August 2018 02:55:15(UTC)
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I remember those from the Best Of vid, cos I was getting sick of shelling out for the same story again and again, so at least here was something 'new'.
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ROCKET MICK on 22/08/2018(UTC)
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