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#1 Posted : 02 August 2017 15:44:42(UTC)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gWoGCQJDeI

Never seen this before, thought I'd post here.

Sorry if it's been posted in another thread
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#2 Posted : 03 August 2017 00:20:18(UTC)
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A rare opportunity to hear Blue Monday. Is that a new song?
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A rare opportunity to hear Blue Monday. Is that a new song?


Jesus Christ, Michael - what is your problem? Decided to become the resident troll of these boards?

*sigh* I guess it just wouldn't be an internet forum without someone who wants to shit all over everything.
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#4 Posted : 03 August 2017 14:31:02(UTC)
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This version of the 'Countdown' appearance is a bit of an oddity.

Back in 1983, an interview with the band and a performance of BM was broadcast on 'Countdown' / 'Veronica's Countdown'. However, the clip you linked to isn't this 'broadcast' version.
Instead, this one appears to be an alternate take of both the performance and the interview. Same interviewer, almost the same questions asked, similar but slightly different witty responses from Steve etc. The BM performance might be the same actual performance but, IIRC, the camera editing is different.

Check YouTube for the other version if you're interested; its on there but not in as good a quality, sadly.

Not sure why there's two versions. Even if they did do multiple takes, I'm not sure why the channel would've now uploaded this alternate take. Surely they'd use the broadcast version. All a little odd.

Still a great (fun) interview. Thanks for posting.
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#5 Posted : 04 August 2017 00:43:31(UTC)
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This version of the 'Countdown' appearance is a bit of an oddity.

Back in 1983, an interview with the band and a performance of BM was broadcast on 'Countdown' / 'Veronica's Countdown'. However, the clip you linked to isn't this 'broadcast' version.
Instead, this one appears to be an alternate take of both the performance and the interview. Same interviewer, almost the same questions asked, similar but slightly different witty responses from Steve etc. The BM performance might be the same actual performance but, IIRC, the camera editing is different.

Check YouTube for the other version if you're interested; its on there but not in as good a quality, sadly.

Not sure why there's two versions. Even if they did do multiple takes, I'm not sure why the channel would've now uploaded this alternate take. Surely they'd use the broadcast version. All a little odd.

Still a great (fun) interview. Thanks for posting.


I found it by accident, was looking for the TOTP's performance to show my nephew. I like this as NO looked quite relaxed (except Hooky) before they played and joking round.

Thanks for the information will take a look later.

I posted it here as I thought some might be interested in it.

If you go to the "owners" page there are some good stuff on there, all mostly out-takes.
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#6 Posted : 04 August 2017 01:21:51(UTC)
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I saw this years ago (with subtitles) on a dodgy 5-disc 'set' of NO TV appearances. They have every right to take the piss out of the presenter as I'm sure their grasp of Dutch far outstrips his English. Steve is a silly little arse.
As you probably know, they didn't play BM too much in the 80s cos they didn't want to be considered the band that did BM and nowt else (actually...). It's strange how some bands get lumped with one track and it's rarely the best. Should I Stay... is the Clash's only number one but possibly their limpest track ever, and Imagine isn't really typical of Lennon (recent evidence suggests Yoko had a lot to do with it, but Lennon didn't want to share credits. Mature fellow.) That Clash number always makes me think of 14-year-olds in their first band at school, 'Right, this is an old Clash song and it's Should I fucking Stay or Should I fucking Go.' Makes Green Day sound like Led Zeppelin.

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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
This version of the 'Countdown' appearance is a bit of an oddity. Not sure why there's two versions. Even if they did do multiple takes, I'm not sure why the channel would've now uploaded this alternate take. Surely they'd use the broadcast version. All a little odd.


They did three Blue Monday takes and two of Confusion, plus a couple of goes at an interview. The US licensees bought the rights to all this stuff but are probably unaware what was actually used back in 1983, hence a rare glimpse into the outtakes.

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This version of the 'Countdown' appearance is a bit of an oddity. Not sure why there's two versions. Even if they did do multiple takes, I'm not sure why the channel would've now uploaded this alternate take. Surely they'd use the broadcast version. All a little odd.


They did three Blue Monday takes and two of Confusion, plus a couple of goes at an interview. The US licensees bought the rights to all this stuff but are probably unaware what was actually used back in 1983, hence a rare glimpse into the outtakes.



Really? Wow!
Would love to see the other footage. Especially Confusion.
Is it out there on the 'net?
If you don't mind me asking, how do you know the details of this? Were you involved somehow?

Really cool information. Thanks.
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This version of the 'Countdown' appearance is a bit of an oddity. Not sure why there's two versions. Even if they did do multiple takes, I'm not sure why the channel would've now uploaded this alternate take. Surely they'd use the broadcast version. All a little odd.


They did three Blue Monday takes and two of Confusion, plus a couple of goes at an interview. The US licensees bought the rights to all this stuff but are probably unaware what was actually used back in 1983, hence a rare glimpse into the outtakes.



Really? Wow!
Would love to see the other footage. Especially Confusion.
Is it out there on the 'net?
If you don't mind me asking, how do you know the details of this? Were you involved somehow?

Really cool information. Thanks.


You can search the Reelin' In The Years database: http://reelinintheyears.com/

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#10 Posted : 04 August 2017 07:15:42(UTC)
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This version of the 'Countdown' appearance is a bit of an oddity. Not sure why there's two versions. Even if they did do multiple takes, I'm not sure why the channel would've now uploaded this alternate take. Surely they'd use the broadcast version. All a little odd.


They did three Blue Monday takes and two of Confusion, plus a couple of goes at an interview. The US licensees bought the rights to all this stuff but are probably unaware what was actually used back in 1983, hence a rare glimpse into the outtakes.



Really? Wow!
Would love to see the other footage. Especially Confusion.
Is it out there on the 'net?
If you don't mind me asking, how do you know the details of this? Were you involved somehow?

Really cool information. Thanks.


You can search the Reelin' In The Years database: http://reelinintheyears.com/



Thanks.
Just searched their database and it does mention they did Confusion. Never knew that. Hooky's book only lists that they appeared on the show, not the tracks performed. Can only assume that they performed both tracks but they only broadcast Blue Monday.

Looking at the shows that they have footage of, I've matched these to known broadcasts on the dates provided and they appear to be:

Celebration, June 1981 (Ceremony, Chosen Time, Denial, Dreams Never End, ICB, Truth)
Countdown, May 1983 (Blue Monday x3, Confusion x2, 6 mins of interviews)
The Tube, March 1986 (Broken Promise, State Of The Nation)
Countdown (presumably), May 1993 (Regret x2)
???, 13/05/05 (Jetstream)

The date for the last one looks like the Jonathan Ross programme, but knowing the BBC, it seems unlikely that ReelinInTheYears would have access to this footage. Based on the other programmes being commercial TV, it seems likely that this one is the appearance on either CD:UK or Popworld which were both broadcast very close to the Ross appearance.

Interesting, anyway. Would be nice if they released all of this.


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All a bit bizarre but i did notice Hooky's "Tell 'im yer from Macclesfield, Steve" was missing from this version.

Would be good to see the Confusion clip one day.
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Apologies, this was the interview I saw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gdeAaZevts - followed by BM. As I said, I remember thinking how arse they were to take the mick out of the presenter when their own Dutch must've been far fabber than his English... Ain't we Brits abroad AWESOME? Guy makes an effort to communicate in your language, remains as polite and friendly as possible, not only lets you publicise your '''''work''''' but pays you for it - and you take the piss. Rock 'n' roll, eh? Steve is an embarrassment - 'Yeah, yer can only get one note out of that, 'sall you can get out of it, just one note, that's all yer can get out of it, just one note, yer can only get one note out oif it, just one note.' The Dutch guy is more articulate than him.
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These guys are using all antiquated equipment - I use mostly virtual instruments...
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These guys are using all antiquated equipment - I use mostly virtual instruments...


It's almost as though they're from the 80's!!

Got a soundcloud/YT link to your stuff?
Maybe there should be a "share your music" thread for people on here who make their own music (and not just Fruity Loops cover versions).
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It's almost as though they're from the 80's!!

Got a soundcloud/YT link to your stuff?
Maybe there should be a "share your music" thread for people on here who make their own music (and not just Fruity Loops cover versions).


Thank you for your interest, Debaser. I expect the typical reaction on a forum would be, "Fuck off, mate, no-one's interested in your shit!" Sadly, I have nothing to show yet. Even though I've written quite a few songs in my time, they mostly languish on tape cassettes from the 1990s. I'm kind of doing a *Hooky* by going through all my songs - but instead of playing the tracks live - I'm re-recording them. I'm currently on the first wave. I certainly hope these will be finished by the end of the year at the very latest - hold me to it!!

Yes, I think we should have NO fans own music forum. Do you record your own stuff?


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