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#101 Posted : 25 November 2020 02:14:14(UTC)
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I was on the fan Facebook page simply called "New Order" a while ago, and True Faith's lyrics were being discussed.
A lot of people were agreeing that the lyric is "see delight in the shade of the morning sun".
I didn't join in the convo as I started to wonder if I had been getting it wrong all these years. I checked the lyrics websites which also have "delight" in there.

But of course those lyric websites are basically Bots that copy from the same source (or each other?), and a lot of the people on that FB page don't have a clue.
So, following the above post on NO's twitter, I'm reverting back to my belief that it's actually "the light in the shade of the morning sun", and never again shall I allow people from that FB page to influence me. Some of them don't even know who Maradona is!


I’ve always thought it was "see the light in the shade of the morning sun", as well.

Having now thought about this for more than two seconds I now look forward to seeing Peter Hook and his band at a (very) early festival slot.
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#102 Posted : 26 November 2020 12:58:27(UTC)
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Caught and captured the Gorilla tv thing tonight.Pretty good and nice to see the 80s gig footage and Ibiza studio stuff.
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#103 Posted : 26 November 2020 13:51:58(UTC)
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It was excellent!

Great interview. Again, Steve's personality shines throughout. I love the man.

And the footage was absolutely wonderful to see.

The segue from Everything's Gone Green to Temptation at Luneberg was magnificent. Steve seemed to be thoroughly enjoying himself during that performance.
And what was with the awkward way he was playing drums in Copenhagen? Very strange!



I just hope that more footage like this gets released.

I think it would be a great idea for one-off tracks that weren't included in the Definitive box sets to be made available online. You know, after each box has been released, so as not to damage potential sales.
Perhaps a track a month on the band's YouTube page. Could help to brighten up our fairly dismal 'lockdown lives'.
Hey - I'd even pay for a download of them.

Maybe 'Johnny James' could perhaps suggest this sort of 'mopping up exercise' to Steve and the band. Hint, Hint. ;-)

It would just be a terrible shame if absolute gold like we saw tonight stayed in the vaults, never to be seen!

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#104 Posted : 27 November 2020 08:19:05(UTC)
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Confusion video as an HD upgrade:


https://www.youtube.com/...44&etsubid=152193876
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#105 Posted : 27 November 2020 10:30:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Go to Quoted Post

Re KJ, there was a little talk in the Press on late 93; Hooky was half-way into the next Revenge album but temporarily shelving it for Killing Joke. Neither project really took off, but Revenge and Monaco used Pumpkin (Microbes), Under The Stars (Porn To Kill) and Tender, and Hooky and Coleman ''''''''''worked'''''''''' on Freispiel. I like helping.


I seem to remember a radio show that Hooky was hosting, around Christmas / New Year, probably 1993/4. He mentioned the KJ project then and played 'Love Like Blood', IIRC.

Born To Kill / Under The Stars was also the Mrs Merton theme, I think.


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#106 Posted : 27 November 2020 12:52:09(UTC)
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Thanks for the link, Debaser.

No mention of a CD or download version, which is a bit annoying.

I'm also a little wary of ordering annoying KJ related, especially in advance.
They still owe me for an album that I helped to fund on PledgeMusic (Jaz jetting off to Russia to record symphonies with some orchestra).
Pledge went tits up; KJ still ended up releasing the LP anyway, but didn't honour any of the pledges made. Not just CDs at £20 a pop, but 'big money' items, such as signed 'scores' etc.

Also, I think there was a concurrent pledge for a huge vinyl box set, which never materialised, although notes were handed over by fans. Seems the band are now trying to release something similar again. Presumably, the new sets won't be given away to the previous Pledgers either.

Sadly, this isn't the first time something like this happened, with fans being ripped off for a 'giant box set' years previously.

Up until that point, I had pretty much every LP (studio, live etc.) that they'd ever released. I haven't bought anything by them since.

If I did get this, it would be purely for the NO connection, and I'm not going to be putting money down before there's a product available.
Fool me once... etc.

Shame to feel like this about a group of musicians you once respected. :-(

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#107 Posted : 27 November 2020 13:21:36(UTC)
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Confusion video as an HD upgrade:


https://www.youtube.com/...44&etsubid=152193876


Great upgrade.Nice.
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#108 Posted : 27 November 2020 13:46:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Confusion video as an HD upgrade:


https://www.youtube.com/...44&etsubid=152193876


Great upgrade.Nice.


Yep. It’s quite noticeable on this one. More so than the others they’ve upgraded, IMHO.
Nice to see everything with improved clarity.

They should do this for all of the videos.
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