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Michael Monkhouse  
#51 Posted : 15 October 2016 23:51:21(UTC)
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Interesting to get a positive take on SOTN. I remember Select 93 considering the period a mid-term burn-out. But who cares what they think. The bassline is exactly the same as on Mr Disco and the rhymes are pretty cringeworthy.
I always thought Mr Disco and Vanishing Point went on too long anyway.
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#52 Posted : 25 October 2016 18:59:54(UTC)
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Paradise and Weirdo reviews now up.
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#53 Posted : 26 October 2016 04:12:16(UTC)
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Great summation of Weirdo. I have always loved this tune. It is in my all-time New Order top-10. Amazing guitar from Bernard and he and Hooky really seem to be in sync on this track. It moves along at a good clip too. It sounds like Steve was a blur of flailing arms on this one. The last minute and 20 seconds sans lyrics is sublime. It is a sound they recaptured a little on Everyone Everywhere later. Brilliant.

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#54 Posted : 26 October 2016 08:55:46(UTC)
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Dennis you are doing a brilliant job with these reviews. I have been listening to all these again on my 24 year old Technics stack system and the tracks seem so refreshing after the way I have been listening to music in recent years.I never got round to getting an iPod! Still had minidiscs..laptops and tablets.
PS shrink wrapping is killing music! I have the last Music Complete albums and all the related singles still sealed for the vinyl editions.Getting the CD singles open was an experience too!
Regards Rocket Mick Confused
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#55 Posted : 14 November 2016 20:10:34(UTC)
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#56 Posted : 27 November 2016 18:51:27(UTC)
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#57 Posted : 05 December 2016 19:20:04(UTC)
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All Day Long review now up.

Wanted this one to stand alone...
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#58 Posted : 06 December 2016 05:45:50(UTC)
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Don't exaggerate.
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#59 Posted : 06 December 2016 07:18:45(UTC)
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Don't exaggerate.


I promise.
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#60 Posted : 01 January 2017 18:53:57(UTC)
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Angel Dust and Every Little Counts reviews now up. Brotherhood complete.

Happy New Year everyone.
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#61 Posted : 02 January 2017 04:43:16(UTC)
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Angel Dust and Every Little Counts reviews now up. Brotherhood complete.

Happy New Year everyone.



Haha that was actually mooted as an idea Factory had for Brotherhood? To add to the vinyl version where there's the needle across the grooves sound at the end of Every Little Counts, the cassette version would have the sound of the tape squealing at the end of Every Little Counts and the CD version would have the sound of a CD glitch at the end? I'd never heard that story before and it'd of been well funny had Factory managed to go through with itLaugh


Happy new year.

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#62 Posted : 02 January 2017 05:01:10(UTC)
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Yeah I read about that in ClaudeFlowers' book, which was a welcome change to the usual crap you read, but it feels like I've been here before (see what I did there?). I also remember Smash Gits (so it must be true) saying the track is brilliant and even features singer Peter Hooke (SIC) laughing. Part of the fun of the band which went out the window alongside inner groove messages.
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#63 Posted : 02 January 2017 05:18:52(UTC)
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All Day Long review now up.

Wanted this one to stand alone...


Agree that it's one of their best, but no mention of Das Rheingold?


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#64 Posted : 02 January 2017 14:52:12(UTC)
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Yeah I read about that in ClaudeFlowers' book, which was a welcome change to the usual crap you read, but it feels like I've been here before (see what I did there?). I also remember Smash Gits (so it must be true) saying the track is brilliant and even features singer Peter Hooke (SIC) laughing. Part of the fun of the band which went out the window alongside inner groove messages.



You and that bloody Claude Flowers book haha. If I had a pound for every time you mention it and the Melody Maker ( or NME?) review of Raise The Pressure I'd be, well, I'd have a lot more money and time having more fun than reading this forum . Or something.Never read that book but vaguely recall the Smash Hits review of Brotherhood and the writer thinking Peter Hooke was the singer.

New Order did eventually 25+ years later achieve their ambition of having a CD glitch sound on one of their songs at 37 seconds into I've Got A Feeling on Lost Sirens. Though you could argue they'd already got many a glitch sound on various reissues or remastered before that.
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#65 Posted : 03 January 2017 02:35:54(UTC)
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10.20 - 27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYMkHtoRUbw
9.14 - 9.22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7UNLfljUF0

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#66 Posted : 17 January 2017 19:18:59(UTC)
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True Faith and 1963 reviews now up.
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Sorry Dennis what's all this about Substance 2 in the TF review?
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Sorry Dennis what's all this about Substance 2 in the TF review?

Yeah, huh? Source?


Also where you say...
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Oakenfold and Osbourne remained true to the source whilst adding value; with new drum, bass and glassy synth sounds, excellent glitchy patterns and modified sequences. To this day the band uses the Perfecto version at the heart of their live performances of TF
...I would have mentioned the house-y piano. That's the Perfecto bit I always notice, live.


And Pettibone's True Dub better than his vocal mix on the A side? No way Jose!
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#69 Posted : 18 January 2017 17:10:23(UTC)
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And Pettibone's True Dub better than his vocal mix on the A side? No way Jose!


You should add your comments on the blog page. I welcome them - each to their own preference, particularly when it comes to mixes.

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#70 Posted : 18 January 2017 17:17:24(UTC)
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what's all this about Substance 2 in the TF review?


Nothing to see here, move on... Cool
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1963 really was/is a fantastic song.Great lyrics by Bernard and one of his best ever vocals.Hague and the band achieved a marvellous sound with the recording, a really lovely production.Also, Hooky's bass near the end just tops off the song brilliantly.The original on the 1987 b side to TF is THE version.That 1994 version was vastly inferior from what i can remember but i haven't listened to it for years.Recall the best and most vital lyrics were cut out of that version as i think Dennis mentions and it had a shittier sound overall.I mean , why edit out the best lyrics of the fricking song????!!!!! FFS.The 1963-95 version was a little better than the 94 one but haven't listened to that for years either, wasn't it a little more guitary than the original and the 94 one? The dance remixes were all pretty pointless.


1963 is better than True Faith IMHO but you can see why they chose TF as the a side, it's faster and more radio friendly and catchy than 1963.But 1963 is the better song. A shame 1963, like certain other songs like Run or Dream Attack never worked very well live though.


I was obsessed with True Faith and 1963 in summer 1987 but rarely play the former now.The Pettibone mixes were really strong and of the 94 mixes the TWA one is pretty good.That King Roc one from the 12x12 campaign is worth a spin still now and then too.
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#72 Posted : 20 January 2017 03:25:56(UTC)
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Recall the best and most vital lyrics were cut out of that version as i think Dennis mentions and it had a shittier sound overall.I mean , why edit out the best lyrics of the fricking song????!!!!! FFS.The 1963-95 version was a little better than the 94 one but haven't listened to that for years either, wasn't it a little more guitary than the original and the 94 one? The dance remixes were all pretty pointless.
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They sure were. Why? Marketing bollocks. The 95 mix was a real rarity in that it sounded more NOy than the original. The Liarcock remixes set a record: 608587348233900 hours and not one millibilliwillisecond of the original. Well done, Sir.
In 94 Fooky told Radio 1 (so it must be true) ''''''''''they'''''''''' were planning Substance 2 to update the original (and make wads without doing Fairground Attraction of course) - no new stuff but some mixes on the CD, and Rob Gretton had forced them to rerecord LWTUA for it. Sounded a bit pie in the sky and we got crappy Best Of instead, but I've been through this 34904568390 times before.
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#73 Posted : 01 February 2017 18:06:33(UTC)
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#74 Posted : 03 February 2017 04:26:31(UTC)
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I much preferred the Cranberries' Salvation for its innovative and influential solution to drugs: To all those people doing lines, Don't do it. Don't do it... Heroin addicts everywhere, avid listeners to the Top 40 and the Cranberries in particular, took her advice and are now just awesome and dandy. Dolores now plans to end all wars, put a damn full stop on all those nastry terrorist fellows, and find a cure for every known disease in time for supper. Keep it up, Miss!
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#75 Posted : 05 February 2017 12:42:03(UTC)
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Touched By The Hand Of God has its moments but like Dennis says some of Bernard's vocals on it are rather grating on the ear.I remember hearing first the live version of it on the bootleg of the April 87 Woolwich gig before even True Faith came out and it reminding me at first of Blondie's Heart Of Glass ( in the bassline) .It seemed an eternity back in 1987 waiting for TBTHOG to be released.It finally made it out in December 1987 around the time of the Wembley Arena gig which i attended but which was my worst ever experience at a New Order gig as we were stuck in seats at the back, ugh.In its favour at least TBTHOG was massively different from their previous single in 1987 True Faith.It highlighted the fact New Order could do a lot of different sounding singles.


Salvation Theme was ok, maybe one of the better ones they did on the Salvation soundtrack.I bought the soundtrack on vinyl pretty much the day it was released in Feb 1988 though i've still never seen the film- from the impressions i can gather of the film it's one of the most forgettable and awful movies ever released, right? Of the soundtrack the 2 Cabaret Voltaire tracks on it are, to be honest, better than New Order's contributions.
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