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#1 Posted : 03 September 2015 13:46:18(UTC)
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You may have already seen this on NO's Facebook/Twitter.
Noisey: Rank Your Records

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#2 Posted : 04 September 2015 01:20:49(UTC)
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Good read. Cheers. R.
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#3 Posted : 04 September 2015 01:25:06(UTC)
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Hot off the press: 'Following the tragic death of Ian Curtis, the remaining members of Joy Division picked up the pieces and formed New Order.'
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#4 Posted : 04 September 2015 03:44:12(UTC)
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Great article
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#5 Posted : 04 September 2015 15:00:13(UTC)
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Lost Sirens is not on that list (which I agree with, it feels incomplete, probably b/c of the appending of a mix of I told you so).

I think we know Peter Hook would rank Republic last. I wonder where Bernard would put it. I, personally, love that album.
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#6 Posted : 04 September 2015 16:00:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LostSiren Go to Quoted Post

I think we know Peter Hook would rank Republic last. I wonder where Bernard would put it. I, personally, love that album.


Same. I get why the band might not think too fondly of it and Steve explains that really well. And personal taste dictates that some will love it and some not, I get that.
What I don't get is the strength of the feeling against it from some quarters.
To me, every phase of NO has merit and I reckon Republic fits perfectly in their canon.
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#7 Posted : 04 September 2015 16:06:54(UTC)
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Interesting to read about the mastering of Low-Life...I've never had it as one of my favourites due to what I thought was its hit-and-miss production (and Perfect Kiss sticking out like a sore thumb).
Maybe I just have one of the crap pressings?
Ah well, at least it's signed by Hooky ;)
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#8 Posted : 04 September 2015 22:28:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: M1 Go to Quoted Post
Interesting to read about the mastering of Low-Life...I've never had it as one of my favourites


Most over-rated album by our most over-rated band.
It's cool that whenever you say they would Never Be The Same Again after the 80's, people go, 'Fuck off, there was that great single or album traxk or...' Looks like you've got Steve's backing now.
I'm a sucker for this kind of stuff... Reverse order and may change tomorrow...
Technique
PCL
Get Ready
Low-Life
Brotherhood
WFTSC
Movement
Republic
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#9 Posted : 05 September 2015 01:10:10(UTC)
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I agree with Steve re Dream Attack favourite song on Technique. Vague and quite faded memories now of how that song used to make me feel back in 1989.The most optimistic song on Technique.Quite melancholic yeah but at the same time somehow really optimistic and inspiring vibe between the lines.Frustratingly though, much like Run, it never really worked live.
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#10 Posted : 07 September 2015 07:59:16(UTC)
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I read the list, I couldn't agree more.

Sometimes I think I like "Technique" more than PCL, but then I realize I'm wrong, haha.

"Perfect Kiss" does stick out on "Low-life", but I still love that album absolutely the most.
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#11 Posted : 10 October 2015 01:14:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LostSiren Go to Quoted Post
Lost Sirens is not on that list.


Interesting too that he includes 'Substance' but not that truckload of London rehashes.
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#12 Posted : 10 October 2015 12:41:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: M1 Go to Quoted Post
Interesting to read about the mastering of Low-Life...I've never had it as one of my favourites due to what I thought was its hit-and-miss production (and Perfect Kiss sticking out like a sore thumb).
Maybe I just have one of the crap pressings?
Ah well, at least it's signed by Hooky ;)


Yeah! It sounds like FACD 100 might have CD pre-emphasis marker on, which most ripping/playing software until relatively recently didn't know how to handle. I've also always thought it sounded a little "off"... I'll have to compare some other versions now!
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ROCKET MICK on 11/10/2015(UTC)
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#13 Posted : 10 October 2015 18:04:52(UTC)
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For me Low Life tops the pile. Not only was the initial mastering cocked up, but the running order too. Try this:

Elegia
Sooner Than You Think
Sub-culture
Face Up
Love Vaginas
This Time Of Night
Sunrise
The Perfect Kiss (FAC 123).... Full length version. Bin the album version.


............ and turn it up!






:smoking:
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#14 Posted : 11 October 2015 04:35:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: muffy Go to Quoted Post
For me Low Life tops the pile. Not only was the initial mastering cocked up, but the running order too. Try this:

Elegia
Sooner Than You Think
Sub-culture
Face Up
Love Vaginas
This Time Of Night
Sunrise
The Perfect Kiss (FAC 123).... Full length version. Bin the album version.


............ and turn it up!

:smoking:


You might like the new remastered version: here

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ROCKET MICK on 11/10/2015(UTC)
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#15 Posted : 13 October 2015 02:44:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post

You might like the new remastered version: here



Has anyone got this and has anyone published any review or listening test? Very curious if there's much discernible improvement. Thanks!
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