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The NME rag has the news we already knew:Did the important moments of JD only occur in Cars and Vans? What about other forms of transport? |
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Must say I am really looking forward to reading this. |
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Tim wrote:Must say I am really looking forward to reading this. Yeah me too. |
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poorshakes wrote:Did the important moments of JD only occur in Cars and Vans? What about other forms of transport?
Trains are for lazy cunts.
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Coops wrote:poorshakes wrote:Did the important moments of JD only occur in Cars and Vans? What about other forms of transport?
Trains are for lazy cunts. LOL
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Hopefully will enlighten the world, but in how many limited edition formats will it come in and at what cost.
Also, nice to see Hooky mention Barney first and by name. |
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Hook slags off professional writers who 'weren't in the room' for releasing accounts of the JD history, so here's everyone's chance to learn the real truth about the band from a primary witness. Or is it?. Well he'd love us to fall for that but all Hook's confused ramblings over the last few years make him the least reliable source of the lot.
An unhealthy vested interest in bigging up his involvement together with a major axe to grind all coated in the bitterness with which he's become renowned will make it tricky for retailers to decide whether to file this under fact or fiction.
Caveat Emptor.
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JG wrote:Hook slags off professional writers who 'weren't in the room' for releasing accounts of the JD history, so here's everyone's chance to learn the real truth about the band from a primary witness. Or is it?. Well he'd love us to fall for that but all Hook's confused ramblings over the last few years make him the least reliable source of the lot.
An unhealthy vested interest in bigging up his involvement together with a major axe to grind all coated in the bitterness with which he's become renowned will make it tricky for retailers to decide whether to file this under fact or fiction.
Caveat Emptor.
If he wants to tell his perspective, all right, but I don't really believe one person (or book) is wrong and another is right. It's just that there are different POVs, no matter the writer; whether a journalist, or Ian's wife, or Hooky, or whoever else. That said, I'm not really interested.Edited by user 05 July 2012 05:44:13(UTC)
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JG wrote:Hook slags off professional writers who 'weren't in the room' for releasing accounts of the JD history, so here's everyone's chance to learn the real truth about the band from a primary witness. Or is it?. Well he'd love us to fall for that but all Hook's confused ramblings over the last few years make him the least reliable source of the lot.
An unhealthy vested interest in bigging up his involvement together with a major axe to grind all coated in the bitterness with which he's become renowned will make it tricky for retailers to decide whether to file this under fact or fiction.
Caveat Emptor.
in so long as it is genuinely written in "uberrima fidea" otherwise I concur. |
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Bernard Sumner on Joy Division Book: "One Day The Truth Will Come Out"Quote:He was in Joy Division so he has a right to write the book. But he's a very opinionated person and quite a lot of the time his opinions are wrong – so I'd be very wary of that book. Quote:Eventually the truth always comes out doesn't it? One day the truth will come out. Xfm LondonEdited by user 05 July 2012 12:36:45(UTC)
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confusion wrote:Bernard Sumner on Joy Division Book: "One Day The Truth Will Come Out"Quote:He was in Joy Division so he has a right to write the book. But he's a very opinionated person and quite a lot of the time his opinions are wrong – so I'd be very wary of that book. Quote:Eventually the truth always comes out doesn't it? One day the truth will come out. Xfm London Interesting...Edited by user 05 July 2012 12:50:04(UTC)
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leather-girl wrote:JG wrote:Hook slags off professional writers who 'weren't in the room' for releasing accounts of the JD history, so here's everyone's chance to learn the real truth about the band from a primary witness. Or is it?. Well he'd love us to fall for that but all Hook's confused ramblings over the last few years make him the least reliable source of the lot.
An unhealthy vested interest in bigging up his involvement together with a major axe to grind all coated in the bitterness with which he's become renowned will make it tricky for retailers to decide whether to file this under fact or fiction.
Caveat Emptor.
If he wants to tell his perspective, all right, but I don't really believe one person (or book) is wrong and another is right. It's just that there are different POVs, no matter the writer; whether a journalist, or Ian's wife, or Hooky, or whoever else. That said, I'm not really interested. Actually, writers have no POV at all, since none of them lived the thing. Not that films or books can't depict most of what happened correctly, at least the public stuff, but take Control, for instance, several of its scenes were taken out of the Jon Savage interview with Barney.
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Writers can create or present a point of view through how they tell the story though. Yes I know Hooky lived through it but it's not a case of Hooky being right and the journos wrong, or vice versa.
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New Order slam Peter Hook: 'Be wary of that book' Bernard Sumner warns fans off Joy Division memoirs link |
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Wouldn't have expected anything other from Bernard. Bottom line is whether all the recollections are 100% accurate, it'll still be entertaining and enlightening. And after all, it wouldn't be Factory related if it was totally accurate, would it? Really looking forward to reading it. |
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I'm guessing anything Hooky related in this book will have to be taken with a load of salt. Could be a while before I read it though - I'll get it when Lost Sirens comes out. 
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seals wrote:I'm guessing anything Hooky related in this book will have to be taken with a load of salt. Could be a while before I read it though - I'll get it when Lost Sirens comes out. There's an idea, could Hooky be delaying the Lost Sirens to coincide with the release of the JD book? |
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I doubt it, but boycotting the book until Lost Sirens comes out is an interesting idea...
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Debaser wrote:I doubt it, but boycotting the book until Lost Sirens comes out is an interesting idea...  lol Edited by user 15 July 2012 06:27:03(UTC)
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MemberD wrote:New Order slam Peter Hook: 'Be wary of that book' Bernard Sumner warns fans off Joy Division memoirs link That's hardly slamming Peter Hook or the book, stupid bastards.
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It's on the WHSmith website - LINKHe is also down to do a book signing on 4th Oct at WHSmith in Birmingham. Also Liverpool and Glasgow at Waterstones - LINKEdited by user 13 August 2012 14:34:18(UTC)
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Hooky's Book gets a mention amongst a list of upcoming rock biographies expected in the coming months....  Link
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Atmosphere isn't Hook's favourite JD song? thought he'd said on many occasions it was.
Not keen on the book's cover but i'm coming round more now to reading it
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johnny wrote:Atmosphere isn't Hook's favourite JD song? thought No, it's The Eternal. |
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