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#1 Posted : 29 August 2014 11:52:11(UTC)
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In some blatant linkwhoring, you might like going here : http://www.mixcloud.com/mrmarkreed/

Over the past year or so, rather than do nothing on endless train journeys to and from work, I have been busy with old New Order singles : using remastered versions from a defunct blog, I have fed them into my computer, and attempt to create 'Full Length' versions of most of their old A sides, using - as much as possible - every alternate musical part from the A and B sides, to create really long (and occasionally boring) 10-16 minute versions. Almost every edit is a 'hard' cut, and the idea is to create a long Master version of each track using all the separate parts possible from the two sides of the original release, removing any redundant and identical bars and sections, in a way that sounds, as much as possible, like a genuine New Order track from the time stretched out to epic lengths. I know there's a sloppy splice or two, but given what I had, I did the best I could.

Here they are on Mixcloud for streaming :

http://www.mixcloud.com/...983-full-length-re-edit/ - 11 minutes 50seconds of "Blue Monday/The Beach"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...-fully-confused-re-edit/ - 15 minutes 15seconds of "Confusion"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...t-x-full-length-re-edit/ - 12 minutes 23 seconds of "The Perfect Kiss/The Kiss Of Death"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...ngth-subvulture-re-edit/ - 11 minutes 42 seconds of "Subculture/Dubvulture"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...ugh-full-length-re-edit/ : 16 minutes 7 seconds of "Shellshock / Shellcock"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...gle-full-length-re-edit/ : 10 minutes 2 seconds of "Bizarre Love Triangle / Dub"*

http://www.mixcloud.com/...ull-morning-sunrise-mix/ : 14 minutes 48 seconds of "True Faith / True Dub" (Morning Sun Mixes)

http://www.mixcloud.com/...god-full-length-re-edit/ : 11 minutes 20 seconds of "Touched By The Hand Of God / Dub"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...n-1987-extended-version/ : 9 minutes 7 seconds of "Confusion 1987 / Dub"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...-time-fine-time-re-edit/ : 10 minutes 28 seconds of all the mixes of "Fine Time"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...und-full-length-re-edit/ : 13 minutes 9 seconds of "Round & Round / Round & Remix"

http://www.mixcloud.com/...hague-new-order-re-edit/ : 7 minutes of "Regret" (7" A & B sides)

http://www.mixcloud.com/...ion-full-length-re-edit/ : 12 minutes 21 seconds of "World (All The Remixes)"

http://www.mixcloud.com/mrmarkreed/spooky-maximix/ : 15 minutes 47 seconds of "Spooky" (Using all 40,000 remixes)

http://www.mixcloud.com/...ation-full-length-remix/ : 12 minutes 50 seconds of "Krafty"


What has become fascinating is how much NO material they squirreled away on B-sides, 12" mixes, and alternate versions. "Round & Round" was particularly good, as I realised that huge chunks of the single were re-recorded including all the bass, drums, most of the keyboards, guitar lines, and lots of new vocals. Also "Subculture" and "Bizarre Love Triangle" had huge amounts of new recordings for the single, and the 12" of BLT has no Hooky bass at all, even though Hooky bass is splattered all over the 7" mix. "World" has some slightly different vocal arrangements on the various mixes.

Also, there's lots of little fragments that are only on various remixes of "Krafty", and the Japanese language version on the Asian CD also appears to be differently mastered to the English language version on the same CD (bizarre). Every remix of "Krafty" and "Round And Round" also seems to have a different set of bass parts (!).

Finally, there are some tracks that aren't in here, for a number of reasons.

The 7" and 12" of "Temptation (1982)" are different recordings in every sense.

Not sure about "Hurt", but the 7" and 12" of "Hurt" are not different enough to warrant bothering with.

There is a fan mix of "Thieves Like Us" (Stolen Mix, I think) that does the job, so no point me doing so.

"State Of The Nation" and "Shame Of The Nation" are too similar structurally, and too different sonically, to make work. Same with "Vanishing Point".

"Angel Dust" I forgot about and don't like too much, but might play with in future.

"Run 2" all the remixes sound so similar there's no point.

"World In Motion..." all the remixes are cheesy Italian house piano and thus, boring.

Finally, I'm not touching the ridiculous Sly & Robbie mixes of "Ruined In A Day."

After 1993, all the mixes become so numerous, with so little original N.O. music in them, they become practically pointless in most cases.

*if* the mods are OK, I could provide download links to 320kbps MP3's. Anyway, enjoy 184 minutes of Factory fun.

Edited by user 29 August 2014 12:25:49(UTC)  | Reason: typo

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#2 Posted : 01 September 2014 08:26:46(UTC)
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Thank you. Would love to have them. Mods, will you please allow - perhaps for a limited time?
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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2014(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 01 September 2014 14:38:52(UTC)
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Well hypothetically, I imagine if these personal re-edits were quietly plonked on to somewhere like Mediafire with a password, and DM's were exchanged without public discussion, then the Mods wouldn't really be aware of it. Just thinking out loud.


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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2014(UTC)
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#4 Posted : 02 September 2014 02:11:42(UTC)
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What Debaser said, really.

Mark's obviously not doing it for profit and it is a fan type project.

But still, keeping copyrighted stuff off here is probably wise.
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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2014(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 02 September 2014 10:59:31(UTC)
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If anyone wants to send me a message in the inbox... go ahead!
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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2014(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 04 September 2014 02:17:07(UTC)
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For some reason, the 'send' button on my PM window won't work.

Curses!

Thanks anyway Mark.

:-)
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ROCKET MICK on 21/09/2014(UTC)
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