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#1 Posted : 24 November 2013 13:09:40(UTC)
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there were some interesting techno mixes of crystal
that came out before the official versions.

i remember reading about corvin dalek releasing it,
and some other groups.

all of them became unofficial versions..and there
were even some exclusive lyrics in them..
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Words from Corvin Dalek:

"Crystal was originally planned as a track exclusively for mfs (Mastermind For Success, Corvin Dalek's label) which bernard gave to mfs label manager, Mark Reeder. He wrote the song for Mark and also sang it and i and a couple of other MFS artists made the music for our versions (not remixes). But after Pete Tong (BBC Radio 1 DJ) heard them, he thought it was the best New Order single he´d heard since Blue Monday (not knowing that Bernard had given the song to Mark as a present) and the project was then rearranged to become a New Order record.

What that meant was that MFS were not actually allowed to release it as originally planned - in june 2000 - until New Order knew what they were going to do with it.

So much time has gone by without it getting released. Pete let me put it on my wet&hard compilation album Hotkunst and in the meantime we have now finally been granted permission to release it in Germany. The vocals have been used on the New Order version of the song (theirs is more guitar sounding) and the track sounds nothing like the mfs versions. Their track was produced by Steve Osborne and mixed by Mark Stent."
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http://www.neworderonlin...usic/Song.aspx?SongID=16



mixes can be heard here:
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http://www.neworderonlin...1&MediaCategoryID=11


Crystal (Shatterproof Mix) (6:27)
Performed by Cybersecrecy
This is a version of Crystal done with the early vocals Bernard Sumner did before it became a New Order song, it does feature extra lyrics. This is the B-Side of the Cybersecrecy 12".
Listen via: Real Media | Windows Media
Published on May 23, 2004

Crystal (All Kleer Mix) (0:56)
Performed by Flater & Igram Project
Trace remix of Crystal with the pre-Get Ready vocals.
Listen via: Real Media
Published on Dec 08, 2002

Crystal (Kleer Mix) (0:52)
Performed by Flater & Igram Project
Trace remix of Crystal with the pre-Get Ready vocals.
Listen via: Real Media
Published on Dec 08, 2002

Crystal (3:04)
Performed by CyberSecrecy
Early (pre-Get Ready) remix of Crystal done by CyberSecrecy, released on MFS-Berlin 2001. Available on the Trace Extasy 2002 compilation.
Listen via: Real Media
Published on Dec 07, 2002


further discussion:

http://www.neworderonlin...List.aspx?ThreadID=11203


new lyrics:

Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:09:39 +0100
From: "N21" <n21@pictime.fr>
Subject: (Fac33) Sumner 4 Dalek

It looks like Corvin Dalek was given a different pack of lyrics for
Crystal - the chorus as originally sung by Sumner goes like this :

"The closer that I get to you
The more you run away from me
Just tells me what I've got to do
You don't have to be afraid of me
I want your love, I need your love
I want the things that [others] must have
Whenever you're here with me
That's where I want to be..."

N21

http://www.monkey.org/~l...digests/_2001/v2001.n170

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i'll be including some of these mixes on the recycle 2 project.


later
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ROCKET MICK on 24/11/2013(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 24 November 2013 14:57:32(UTC)
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Crystal has roots in the Electronic b-side "Radiation" from the Vivid single back in 1999:


At around 00:25 amongst the keyboards and guitar effects a sampled voice speaks "We're like Crystal, we break easy".

It was obviously a lyric idea Barney had been playing around with since the Twisted Tenderness sessions.

As for the Corvin Dalek mixes, I'm familiar with the Porno Club and the Shatterproof Mixes; they're average at best.

New Order as a band made the most of the concept as a song.
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ROCKET MICK on 25/11/2013(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 25 November 2013 05:09:18(UTC)
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You've got ears like a shithouse rat NaM!

Not listened to it all, am at work, but the step up at 1.25 is mighty familiar too.
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ROCKET MICK on 25/11/2013(UTC)
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#4 Posted : 25 November 2013 15:00:19(UTC)
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Quote:

"The closer that I get to you
The more you run away from me
Just tells me what I've got to do
You don't have to be afraid of me
I want your love, I need your love
I want the things that [others] must have
Whenever you're here with me
That's where I want to be..."


If you listen closely, some of these lyrics are in NO's version too.... but sung by Dawn Zee
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ROCKET MICK on 25/11/2013(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 26 November 2013 08:19:12(UTC)
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NotAMod wrote:
Crystal has roots in the Electronic b-side "Radiation" from the Vivid single back in 1999:


At around 00:25 amongst the keyboards and guitar effects a sampled voice speaks "We're like Crystal, we break easy".

It was obviously a lyric idea Barney had been playing around with since the Twisted Tenderness sessions.

As for the Corvin Dalek mixes, I'm familiar with the Porno Club and the Shatterproof Mixes; they're average at best.

New Order as a band made the most of the concept as a song.


Holy hell you are right, sampled voice says "We're like crystal, we break easy."

I always wondered if Radiation was some kind of precursor to Crystal.

I'd love to hear Bernard's original demo for Crystal..not the Corvin Dalek Mix, but the actual demo Sumner did originally, which was said by Bernard and Steve to be quite "Housey" before guitars were added.

I'd like to hear the Get Ready Premix version of Crystal too, but I cannot find it on the net aside from a brief clip on NOOL. It looks about 50 seconds longer than what was released...
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ROCKET MICK on 26/11/2013(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 26 November 2013 10:50:15(UTC)
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ZASmusic wrote:
I'd like to hear the Get Ready Premix version of Crystal too, but I cannot find it on the net aside from a brief clip on NOOL. It looks about 50 seconds longer than what was released...


There's nothing noteworthy about it. I have the complete pre-mix CD-R.
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ROCKET MICK on 26/11/2013(UTC)
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#7 Posted : 26 November 2013 11:46:24(UTC)
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50 Pound Note wrote:
ZASmusic wrote:
I'd like to hear the Get Ready Premix version of Crystal too, but I cannot find it on the net aside from a brief clip on NOOL. It looks about 50 seconds longer than what was released...


There's nothing noteworthy about it. I have the complete pre-mix CD-R.


No major differences then, I take it? Crystal is the only GR premix I haven't heard...it was interesting to to hear the other premixes as there were differences, albeit minute ones, to the released versions.
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ROCKET MICK on 26/11/2013(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 26 November 2013 11:48:01(UTC)
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50 Pound Note wrote:
ZASmusic wrote:
I'd like to hear the Get Ready Premix version of Crystal too, but I cannot find it on the net aside from a brief clip on NOOL. It looks about 50 seconds longer than what was released...


There's nothing noteworthy about it. I have the complete pre-mix CD-R.


Is the pre-mix version the one on the Here to Stay 12"? It's essentially a longer version of the LP mix.
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ROCKET MICK on 26/11/2013(UTC)
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