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50poundnote  
#1 Posted : 31 March 2013 04:51:50(UTC)
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I was a huge fan of Razormaid during their golden period of the late '80s, having bought many of the original monthly issues on vinyl, and picking up all three of the CD box sets in 1992. I bought the first In Hindsight collection when it was compiled in 1997.

Yesterday I listened to In Hindsight II for the first time. Holy cow, what a load of CRAP. The classic Razormaid sound was generally a re-edit with some additional EQ, and sometimes a reworking from the master tapes. It always retained the feel of the original song, with more emphasis on the beat, and DJ-friendly intros, outros, and breaks.

In Hindsight II was Joseph Watt discovering how to digitally adjust the tempo of a track without shifting the key, and going crazy. No one wants to dance to a s l o w e r Confusion. He abandoned his keen ear for editing in favor of a kitchen sink approach, grabbing 4 bars here and 4 bars there, jamming them together where they don't make sense, instead of carefully restructuring the track in a way that maintained a consistent feel. The original idea behind Razormaid was to streamline tracks that were forward-thinking, and this was him going in the complete opposite direction, making tracks more complicated.

He was always a greedy a-hole (I've had very unpleasant, personal dealings with the man), but he at least put out a quality product. In Hindsight II sounds like it was thrown together in a single afternoon as a blatant cash-grab from the fans, banking on New Order's name and Razormaid's past reputation.

(And don't get me started on his claims of copyright. His original deal with the labels was no more than 1000 copies of any track pressed, but 20-plus years later he's now selling CD-Rs through his website. He's never paid any royalties.)


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In Hindsight II is a very unsatisfying listening experience.

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#2 Posted : 31 March 2013 10:35:40(UTC)
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not your favoutite then?

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ROCKET MICK on 01/04/2013(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 31 March 2013 19:54:36(UTC)
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Hope you were breathing while letting that out?

Feel better now? Good.

Eek
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ROCKET MICK on 01/04/2013(UTC)
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#4 Posted : 08 April 2013 11:43:25(UTC)
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At last, I thought, I can get the Razormaid mixes.

They were atrocious. My ex, who caught me listening to them whilst doing the housework, voiced the opinion that IH2 was "Shit". She was right.
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ROCKET MICK on 08/04/2013(UTC)
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Does anyone have a copy of the razor maid remix of "Mr. Disco"? If so could you contact me and send it to me? Thanks
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ROCKET MICK on 16/05/2017(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 16 May 2017 09:56:15(UTC)
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Razorshite are fucking shit. Splice and repeat and throw five pounds away.
586 was the first I heard, on a bootleg double album 'Decadence'. I remember thinking, What a pointless waste of time - I could've done that meself with basic equipment and a free mo(u)rning. Subsequent mixes haven't changed my opinion.
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ROCKET MICK on 16/05/2017(UTC)
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#7 Posted : 16 May 2017 10:21:51(UTC)
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The razormaid mixes of subculture blow away the official ones, and are much better,
and some of the other ones are good too, and better than the official ones.


Don't let people just give their opinions, actually go out and listen to them.

later
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#8 Posted : 16 May 2017 10:54:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
I was a huge fan of Razormaid ...


So to do strikethrough you use an (s) and an (/s) in square brackets. Is that a dropdown option or do you just have to know it from somewhere?

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#9 Posted : 17 May 2017 00:23:26(UTC)
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The Razormaid mix of Subculture (aka Record Mirror Mix) is the only one version I listen to & has been for several years.
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#10 Posted : 17 May 2017 03:22:18(UTC)
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I bought a Razormaid mix of Depeche Mode a good, oooh...25 years or so ago. It was shite and has remained stuck at the bottom of a mountain of vinyl ever since. Good to hear the Razormaid mark of quality has been applied to other bands -
reading this has brought all those shitty memories crashing back into my brain for the first time in decades Dead
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ROCKET MICK on 17/05/2017(UTC)
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#11 Posted : 17 May 2017 08:59:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ken Doherty Go to Quoted Post
I bought a Razormaid mix of Depeche Mode a good, oooh...25 years or so ago. It was sh*te and has remained stuck at the bottom of a mountain of vinyl ever since. Good to hear the Razormaid mark of quality has been applied to other bands -
reading this has brought all those shitty memories crashing back into my brain for the first time in decades Dead


you guys just have bad luck, ok, some of the early ones were rough (putting it nicely), but later ones eclipsed most of the official mixes.
- erasure
- cabaret voltaire
- kraftwerk

in fact some bands even used the rezormaids on their official releases
- red flag

again, your mileage varies... i personally like, and own a lot of razormaid releases, hot tracks, DMC and many other DJ service remixes.

later
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