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#26 Posted : 25 November 2025 11:18:58(UTC)
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Think i posted earlier in thread that i'd read somewhere online that the multi tracks for As It Is When It Was and Broken Promise are lost. I guess that means those 2 sonngs could not have the Dolby Atmos mix and are thus just " Upscale" mixes. And it affects other mixes of those 2 also, so no instrumental mixes ?
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#27 Posted : 26 November 2025 08:36:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Think i posted earlier in thread that i'd read somewhere online that the multi tracks for As It Is When It Was and Broken Promise are lost. I guess that means those 2 sonngs could not have the Dolby Atmos mix and are thus just " Upscale" mixes. And it affects other mixes of those 2 also, so no instrumental mixes ?


Yes you did. Sorry Fotz. My memory, I swear, is getting worse by the week. No joke.
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#28 Posted : 26 November 2025 14:38:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Think i posted earlier in thread that i'd read somewhere online that the multi tracks for As It Is When It Was and Broken Promise are lost. I guess that means those 2 sonngs could not have the Dolby Atmos mix and are thus just " Upscale" mixes. And it affects other mixes of those 2 also, so no instrumental mixes ?

Yet there was an original studio stereo instrumental mix of 'Broken Promise' on the 'Brotherhood' Definitive Edition that could've been reused for this.

Wonder if there's an original instrumental of 'As It Is....' kicking round anywhere as well?
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#29 Posted : 26 November 2025 21:08:55(UTC)
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^ Oh yeah there was , wasn't the! Good point, Mr D.
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#30 Posted : 04 December 2025 05:19:43(UTC)
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Release date for these is tomorrow. I've had no shipping confirmation yet. Anyone else got one?
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#31 Posted : 04 December 2025 07:51:31(UTC)
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Ordered on Monday (Amazon). No confirmation yet.
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#32 Posted : 04 December 2025 10:00:58(UTC)
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My copies (from Amazon UK) still say 'arriving tomorrow'.

Weirdly though, I had an email this morning telling me to update my payment method, else they wouldn't be able to fulfil my order.
Not sure what the problem was, as my saved card was in date and information was correctly entered.

I think I've fixed it, but I'm half expecting to wake up to an email saying that couldn't dispatch due to the same issue.

Incidentally, when I ordered these a couple of weeks back, they were more expensive on Amazon than the NewOrder Store. I ordered them anyway, expecting the price to drop.
Checking today, the price has dropped to a much better £16.55 price point.
If anyone was holding off for them to get cheaper, now might be the time to take the plunge.
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#33 Posted : 04 December 2025 13:12:50(UTC)
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Well i haven't taken plunge and ordered yet. Can't make up my mind whether to bother with these or not. I can and have listened to the Dolby Atmos mixed of Movement and Low Life a number of times in recent months on Apple Music. Played over WiFi from my phone or tablet to the Sonos speaker set up i have ( 2 Sonos Era 100 speakers and a Sonos Beam soundbar) and hear mixed results. Listening to This Time Of Night recently there's fabulous detail with the synths but i could hardly hear the drums . Really odd .Played about with EQ settings through the Sonos app but still didn't make a difference. Still. the cowbell on TPK certainly flew around clearly from speaker to speaker. And the Movement album takes on a whole new experience in Dolby Atmos. I do have a Blu Ray player which supports Dolby Atmos and it'd play through my Sonos speaker set up and i guess i'd be interested to ser if the drums on This Time Of Night are clearer playing the Low Life Dolby Atmos Blu Ray disc rather than streaming on Apple Music.
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#34 Posted : 04 December 2025 16:59:52(UTC)
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The blu rays don't appear to me on Amazon UK... only the expanded 2CD editions. Really strange

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#35 Posted : 05 December 2025 02:26:50(UTC)
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If you have Apple Music - Brotherhood is now available in Dolby Atmos.
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#36 Posted : 05 December 2025 11:33:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnny77 Go to Quoted Post
If you have Apple Music - Brotherhood is now available in Dolby Atmos.



Thanks but i can't find it on Apple Music. For the Dolby Atmos mixes of Movement and Low Life they're hidden away on the streamimg of the Definitive Editions but seemingly not so for Brotherhood.

Edit: Ah i've now found it on the stream for the 2024 dgital master. Ok, will give it a listen tonight

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#37 Posted : 05 December 2025 12:13:22(UTC)
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BLT sounds nice but at times it's not much more than sounds swirling or panning around. Still, i will probably go ahead and buy the physical discs as i have a feeling the Dolby Atmos will be superior on Blu Ray than on Apple Music, would that be correct? And also on Apple Music you just get the standard album tracklist, you don't get the instrumentals that Steven Wilson also did.
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#38 Posted : 05 December 2025 12:29:23(UTC)
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Ooh, State Of The Nation does benefit, sounds good. Steven Wilson has really brought out that funky bass sequencer.Beefy.Lots of other details brought out too.

As It Is When It Was and Broken Promise, Apple Music states as Dolby Atmos though technically they're not , no? Thought these 2 were 'Upscale' mixes because the original master tapes were lost? Anyway
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#39 Posted : 06 December 2025 01:48:00(UTC)
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New delivery date, 10-12/12/25. New rule on Amazon : CDs are always delayed now. Frown
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#40 Posted : 06 December 2025 01:53:22(UTC)
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I’m not seeing any of them on Apple Music. Checked the Definitive Editions but can’t see anything labelled as Dolby Atmos.
I must be missing something.

Or are they not labelled in this way?
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#41 Posted : 06 December 2025 03:59:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
I’m not seeing any of them on Apple Music. Checked the Definitive Editions but can’t see anything labelled as Dolby Atmos.
I must be missing something.

Or are they not labelled in this way?




You should find the Movement and Low Life ones on Apple Music in the Definitive Editions of each. Should look like this 'Dolby Atmos' stated in middle like this

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Brotherhood for some reason they haven't put it in the Definitive Edition stream of that one, so look for Brotherhood 2024 Digital Master. It will look like this, 'Dolby Atmos' again can be seen in middle


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But yeah, they are bloody hard to find!

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