Did he? Wow!
I had downloaded it for later consumption but haven't had chance to listen to it yet.

That live boxset has been on the cards for several years now (think Hooky mention it in one of his lockdown Covid chats with his son).
Would be nice if this finally materialises.

Considering Heart & Soul did a pretty good job of compiling the studio stuff, it does seem likely that any box-set would probably be based on live material.
I've mentioned this many times, but really hope any box-set contains a DVD of the complete live stuff (inc. Plan K and the Apollo stuff that wasn't featured on HATYM).

Is it actually on YouTube at all, or have they completely fooked it up?

Weirdly the other links work, so you can listen on Spotify etc.

State Of The Nation HD Upgrade:

Not as far as I know. Will be really interested to hear the Japan Demo on the new boxset, to see how different it is.

When I first got into the band, there was a handful of songs I really didn't like; State Of The Nation, Face Up & Every Little Counts specifically spring to mind. I think I always felt they were all a little chaotic (ELC specifically because of the vocal performance).

But time is a great healer and, by the time that the really bad songs came out (Liar, Chemical, Slow Jam, Rock The Shack, Jetstream etc.), the above tracks seemed golden in comparison.

To be honest now, even if I don't compare them to worse tracks, I still really like them.


What I think is curious about State Of The Nation is that they pretty much reused the bass-line for Mr. Disco. Wonder why.

PS 'Shame' Of The Nation is a pretty decent remix, IMHO.

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F***ing Superb!

Is it possible to fall in love with this band any more than I already have?
Yes. Yes it is.


“I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!”

Is this worth starting a thread for? Maybe not. Is it worth a watch? Yes. Bernard on amusing form.

Oh and congrats to New Order on the award.

Old man makes a nuisance of himself in WH Smiths.

I did wonder about this when the band received the award, as there was no mention of Hooky and photos and appearances at ceremonies were made without him.

To be fair, Rolling Stone might not have been at fault here. It could be that the band's management slipped up.
Presumably RS contacted the 'New Order management' (as they presumably always do, rather than go direct to band members) and it's up to these agents to communicate with affected parties.

It appears that no one contacted Hooky, which is pretty bad, IMHO. Unless, Hooky's management was contacted by either RS or New Order's management and they didn't pass the message on. That seems unlikely though, as I'm sure they're looking out for specific instances of things like this.

Oh dear.
This is the sort of thing that just prolongs the sorry mess that this has devolved into.

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I bought No's 1 & 3 "back in the day". No 2 passed me by at the time as I was living in a part of the world that didn't play much western pop music (and I was very young).

In the case of Kraftwerk, it was the '84 release with the Francois K remix, "AS FEATURED IN THE FILM 'BREAKDANCE'".