You can't have an either/or between Subculture and Vanishing Point. That's just wrong!

Meanwhile Gillian is happier with the rider.

Setlists are always a ripe topic of conversation for fans. If there was a clear, correct way of deciding what should be played, that wouldn't be the case.

The three Pet Shop Boys shows on this tour had identical setlists. I'm happy that New Order are mixing up theirs (even just a little bit) from show to show. There's always the compromise between what the feel they have to play, want to play and what's worth putting in the effort to also rehearse and program (not forgetting the visuals) to add variety.

One development I'm happy with is that there's fewer Joy Division tracks in the set. Whether this is down to their touring partners or not remains to be seen.

I totally agree, and I'm a massive JD fan.

It was great back in 1998 when they started routinely playing them again. However, I'm a bit sick of the band's version of LWTUA etc. these days.

Bernard has never been a particularly great vocalist (although I obviously love his vocals), but his voice is totally shot these days. It was always going to be a big ask for him to do JD songs justice back in the 80s/90s. There's zero chance of him being able to do that these days.

Besides, if I go and see New Order, that's the band I want to see. JD ended on 18/05/80 and I don't really feel that anything more needs to be said, concert-wise.

That being said, the occasional playing of Decades, NDF or Disorder would be appreciated by me.
I just get really bored of the encore being the usual rolling out of Transmission, Atmosphere and LWTUA.
Let the encore be a heady mix of the band's best numbers: Temptation and TPK, for instance.

I don’t mind them playing JD songs (2 max) as long as it’s not LWTUA! I always leave when that plays now, good way to beat the crush.

I love JD as well but Hooky is far better doing JD than current NO. I get my fix of JD seeing the light so NO should concentrate on NO.

JD tracks I’ve enjoyed in the past NO have played

Decades
Transmission
These days
Disorder (there best effort)
Isolation

Yep. Credit where credit's due. Very nice that they are mixing it up. Makes it more interesting.
If you're a Viking on tour with them, it must be nice to hear a bit of variety (obviously they also need to appeal to the masses who always want to hear BM etc.).

Do you like All Day Long? Cos there's y'know, a connection.

It all seems a little predicatable with the majority of the setlist 30 years old. I know we'll never get back to the 80s days of different sets every night but...I could do without Plastic, Restless, BM, Subculture, Shellcock!, and any JD, thats all.

That comment's a little condescending don't you think?

But for the record yes i do like all day long and i'm well aware of the connection...i am a long term fan you know

I just find it a very drab way to start a concert...it doesn't work the way they stand there waiting for it to come to a sudden end before acknowledging the crowd

The manchester/times change intro worked far better at Heaton park...especially the way new order came onto the screen at the end

My opinion of coarse...if i'm allowed one

Yes maybe it was condescending. Back in the days (long) before they used that intro, someone here -I forget who- argued that "there are only so many notes you know" when I mentioned that All Day Long borrowed from Wagner. In other words they were saying that the similarity was a coincidence rather than acknowledging that...it wasn't. I coudn't prove he was wrong at the time, athough I think the use of the intro since then has done so (along with the tweet below from Hooky). As we sadly never get All Day Long live (this century), then for me this feels like this is as close as we're gonna get, so it's better than nothing. I may be a bit touchy about All Day Long because (a) we never get it live and (b) whoever argued with me (X number of years ago!) was wrong and I want it acknowledged!!

My understanding is that Andy's list was an alphabetical list of all the songs played on this tour so far, rather than a specific gig setlist. LWTUA still finishes things off each night, assuming Setlist FM is correct.

All Day Long was performed in 2020.

Setlist.fm

Edited by user 25 September 2022 16:21:18(UTC)  | Reason: typo

...and also the 3 ∑ gigs in Austria and Italy in 2018: Setlist.fm

Edited by user 25 September 2022 10:16:17(UTC)  | Reason: typo in quote!

SEP 25 2022 at TD Pavilion at the Mann, Philadelphia, PA, USA

Setlist.fm

Another tour debut: Decades.

That brings the Unity Tour song pool to 21 tracks:

1963
Academic
Age of Consent
Be a Rebel
Bizarre Love Triangle
Blue Monday
Ceremony
Decades
Guilt is a Useless Emotion
Love Will Tear Us Apart
The Perfect Kiss
Plastic
Regret
Restless
Sub-Culture
Temptation
Transmission
True Faith
Tutti Frutti
Vanishing Point
Your Silent Face