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negative1		#351 Posted : 04 June 2021 15:40:01(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		here are my middle era singles (a few duplicates in there): there are some interesting things to note : 4 different color inner sleeves for UK the perfect kiss the US promo perfect kiss video edit: https://www.discogs.com/...fect-Kiss/release/458200 New Order ‎– The Perfect Kiss Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2342 Format: Vinyl, 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Promo Country: US Released: 1985 Genre: Electronic Style: Synth-pop Tracklist A The Perfect Kiss (Single Edit) 4:23 B The Perfect Kiss (Live Version From The Perfect Kiss Video) 5:18 Total Time: 9:41 there's also a US 7 inch promo with that on it. 2 different US bizarre love triangle promos: https://www.discogs.com/...-Triangle/release/349673 New Order ‎– Bizarre Love Triangle Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2636 Format: Vinyl, 12", Promo, 33 ⅓ RPM Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic Style: Synth-pop Tracklist A Bizarre Love Triangle (7" Edit) 3:23 B Bizarre Love Triangle (Extended Edit) 4:58 Total Time: 8:21 the exteneded edit hasnt been on anything else i think https://www.discogs.com/...-Triangle/release/330203 New Order ‎– Bizarre Love Triangle Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2600 Format: Vinyl, 12", Promo, 33 ⅓ RPM Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic Style: Synth-pop Tracklist A Bizarre Love Triangle (LP Version) 4:19 B Bizarre Love Triangle (Edit) 3:44 Total Time: 8:03 the 'way of life' us promo, maybe it was going to be a release: https://www.discogs.com/...y-Of-Life/release/503261 New Order ‎– Way Of Life Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2644 Format: Vinyl, 12", Promo, 33 ⅓ RPM Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, Synth-pop Tracklist A Way Of Life (LP Version) 3:45 B Way Of Life (LP Version) 3:45 Total Time: 7:30 also, i like the typography on the 'subculture' UK 12 inch, even though theres no artwork. and finally, the UK shellshock had an inner which extended the artwork of the cover, which we didn't get in the US. also there was a US promo 12 inch, which had shellshock (DUB) on the b-side, as opposed to the normal release which just had the 'thieves like us' on it. https://www.discogs.com/...hellshock/release/956472 New Order ‎– Shellshock Label: A&M Records ‎– SP-12174 Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Promo Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, New Wave, Synth-pop Tracklist A Shell-Shock (Extended Version) 9:41 B Shell-Shock (Dub Version) 7:35 Total Time: 17:16 later -1

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Andy		#352 Posted : 06 June 2021 08:37:56(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1652 times Was thanked: 3333 time(s) in 2238 post(s)		Way of Life is indeed the LP version, although the time listing is incorrect. It was sent to radio to try to generate continued interest in Brotherhood. Maybe the shorter duration is a typo, or perhaps it was intentional to make the track seem more radio friendly. I seriously doubt it was considered for release. Qwest had declined to release State of the Nation as a single, instead using it as an extra track on the Bizarre Love Triangle release. This had meant BLT was the only single released in the LP campaign. They'd done something similar with Touched by the Hand of God, passing on the release only for it to turn up as a b-side to Blue Monday 1988 a few months later. Stupid Americans. Years later, the Electronic track Tighten Up had promos sent to radio. Like Way of Life, it wasn't meant to be a single, just a way to promote the LP via radio play to stations/people that might be more receptive to its more guitar based sound.
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depthcharge		#353 Posted : 06 June 2021 22:00:03(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2013(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Australia Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 325 time(s) in 195 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Andy Years later, the Electronic track Tighten Up had promos sent to radio. Like Way of Life, it wasn't meant to be a single, just a way to promote the LP via radio play to stations/people that might be more receptive to its more guitar based sound. I have this promo - my Electronic collection is Second To None. Well not quite, but it's decent. Tighten Up is one of their harder promos to find, and contains a unique Single Edit. If I recall, it's just an abbreviated intro and fade out finish.

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negative1		#354 Posted : 15 June 2021 22:17:14(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		well, i'm going through a japanese phase right now, and i have some gaps in my collection. so i was seeing what i had. i do have brotherhood CD on order. for some there are multiple japanese copies, remasters, and reissues, not to mention promos. most are rather expensive too. i don't have too many singles either, so will have to look out for those also: later -1

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Mr. Disco		#355 Posted : 17 June 2021 14:36:41(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1452 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm?
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Occidental		#356 Posted : 21 June 2021 23:13:23(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 16/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 8 Was thanked: 19 time(s) in 8 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm? Japan had long since shifted to CD-only by the time of Regret (for pretty much ALL artists, not only NO). The last New Order vinyl release was Technique, and even that one was pretty limited. None of the Technique-era singles got a vinyl release. Last 12" in Japan was BM 1988.

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negative1		#357 Posted : 22 June 2021 18:22:27(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Occidental Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm? Japan had long since shifted to CD-only by the time of Regret (for pretty much ALL artists, not only NO). The last New Order vinyl release was Technique, and even that one was pretty limited. None of the Technique-era singles got a vinyl release. Last 12" in Japan was BM 1988. what about the japanese tutti frutti 12 inch. https://www.discogs.com/...i-Frutti/release/8352223 New Order ‎– Tutti Frutti Label:Mute ‎– 12JMUTE542 Format:Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Limited Edition Country: Japan Electro, House, Synth-pop TracklistShow Credits A Tutti Frutti (Extended 12" Mix) 7:27 B Tutti Frutti (Takkyu Ishino Remix) 7:54 Total Time: 15:21 later -1 Edited by user 22 June 2021 18:25:42(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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negative1		#358 Posted : 22 June 2021 21:43:33(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		ok, almost 2 months later, i finally got it. the first seller, said they had it, but then they couldn't find it, and was going to get back to me in july when they were back in the country. so i had to find a 2nd seller, and they did have it. there were 2 copies on ebay, 1 for $300, and 1 for $600, so i wasn't getting those. a week ago, another seller had it for $100+ which is about right. (although that one sold also) anyways, comparisons pics part 1: the us lp, upper left, the uk lp upper right the metallic sleeve bottom center: the uk and us sleeve match up pretty well (discounting the plastic wrap). the metallic sleeve is definitely shinier and has real texture to it. here is a comparison, with the metallic cd cover: the cd metallic texture is also slightly different, but the same size, when placed on the LP. but it was definitely a different run, and a slightly different texture, and printing method. later -1 Edited by user 22 June 2021 21:44:55(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Occidental		#359 Posted : 24 June 2021 04:23:45(UTC)
Rank: Candidate Groups: Registered Joined: 16/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 8 Was thanked: 19 time(s) in 8 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 Originally Posted by: Occidental Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm? Japan had long since shifted to CD-only by the time of Regret (for pretty much ALL artists, not only NO). The last New Order vinyl release was Technique, and even that one was pretty limited. None of the Technique-era singles got a vinyl release. Last 12" in Japan was BM 1988. what about the japanese tutti frutti 12 inch. https://www.discogs.com/...i-Frutti/release/8352223 New Order ‎– Tutti Frutti Label:Mute ‎– 12JMUTE542 Format:Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Limited Edition Country: Japan Electro, House, Synth-pop TracklistShow Credits A Tutti Frutti (Extended 12" Mix) 7:27 B Tutti Frutti (Takkyu Ishino Remix) 7:54 Total Time: 15:21 later -1 I was referring more to the end of the vinyl era as a viable mainstream physical medium, competing with cassettes and CDs. Of course there's been a vinyl resurgence recently capitalizing on the recent worldwide trend, but that's more of a collectors/DJ/nostalgia thing.

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negative1		#360 Posted : 25 June 2021 02:03:00(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		here are 5 of the main promo cd-singles from music complete. (theres 2 more japanese ones that are impossible to find, and a german one for tutti frutti thats also expensive) : i'm good with these: us, uk restless, german tutti frutti, uk singularity, uk people on the highline: some of the edits are unique i think. later -1

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Mr. Disco		#361 Posted : 28 June 2021 06:27:25(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1452 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		Got a few promos from that era... I still think the radio edits of Restless and Tutti Frutti are the best "structured" versions There were also digital promos, mostly of instrumentals of the album tracks and remixes from the singles. Most of them unreleased physically
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perspexorange		#362 Posted : 29 August 2021 06:12:49(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: negative1 colored confusion german 7 inch releases, If you get chance to rip one of these, I’d be interested to hear it again (I have at least one of them but it’s in storage and I don’t have a turntable anymore). Looks like I had a copy of this hidden away in a folder on one of my hard-drives. I had literally no idea it was there. Not sure who ripped it, but it wasn't me. I've uploaded both a FLAC and m4a version of this rarity, if anyone is interested. Grab it quickly, as the link will expire in a week or so. There's some crackling from the vinyl but it sounds like a pretty decent rip: https://we.tl/t-d41lBhTYFa Not sure what the differences between this and the UK promo 7" are, or why a separate edit was deemed necessary by Rough Trade.

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Mr. Disco		#363 Posted : 29 August 2021 14:31:39(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1452 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Looks like I had a copy of this hidden away in a folder on one of my hard-drives. I had literally no idea it was there. Not sure who ripped it, but it wasn't me. I've uploaded both a FLAC and m4a version of this rarity, if anyone is interested. Grab it quickly, as the link will expire in a week or so. There's some crackling from the vinyl but it sounds like a pretty decent rip: https://we.tl/t-d41lBhTYFa Not sure what the differences between this and the UK promo 7" are, or why a separate edit was deemed necessary by Rough Trade. That's a very nice rip, thanx for sharing.
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perspexorange		#364 Posted : 29 August 2021 23:15:09(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		No problem. Glad to help. :-) I was pleased to have found it. I hadn't heard that mix for over quarter of a century (which is kind of crazy!).

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Mr. Disco		#365 Posted : 02 September 2021 08:48:41(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1452 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		Just remembered I used to have this CD but couldn't find it anywhere; featuring the Dave Clarke EGG remix but the vocals aren't backwards https://www.discogs.com/...992-2005/release/5143124
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Mr Discography		#366 Posted : 02 September 2021 11:04:14(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Brotherhood Groups: Registered Joined: 20/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 390 Thanks: 11 times Was thanked: 749 time(s) in 391 post(s)		Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: perspexorange Originally Posted by: negative1 colored confusion german 7 inch releases, If you get chance to rip one of these, I’d be interested to hear it again (I have at least one of them but it’s in storage and I don’t have a turntable anymore). Looks like I had a copy of this hidden away in a folder on one of my hard-drives. I had literally no idea it was there. Not sure who ripped it, but it wasn't me. I've uploaded both a FLAC and m4a version of this rarity, if anyone is interested. Grab it quickly, as the link will expire in a week or so. There's some crackling from the vinyl but it sounds like a pretty decent rip: https://we.tl/t-d41lBhTYFa Not sure what the differences between this and the UK promo 7" are, or why a separate edit was deemed necessary by Rough Trade. It just fades out about 30 seconds earlier on the Rough Trade 7". As you suggest, makes you wonder why they went to the bother of shortening it.

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Andy		#367 Posted : 02 September 2021 23:08:15(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1652 times Was thanked: 3333 time(s) in 2238 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Just remembered I used to have this CD but couldn't find it anywhere; featuring the Dave Clarke EGG remix but the vocals aren't backwards https://www.discogs.com/...992-2005/release/5143124 Apparently it's the mix he first submitted for The Rest of... but Bernard felt the vocals were "too upfront". So Dave did another mix and reversed them. Bernard was amused enough to include that mix on the double vinyl version. I'd actually forgot about it but I still have my copy of the Dave Clarke collection.
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negative1		#368 Posted : 14 October 2021 00:54:14(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		will be getting a few items later this month: french - procession (7 inch) always wanted this - love 10 inchers New Order - Waiting For The Siren's Call (Mash Up) (10", S/Sided, Promo, W/Lbl) nothing fancy on this one New Order - New Order (CDr, Promo) New Order – New Order Label: London Records – none Format: CDr, Promo Country: UK Released: 2002 Genre: Electronic, Rock, Pop Style: Alternative Rock, Electro, Synth-pop Tracklist Show Credits 1 Blue Monday (Original 12" Mix) 7:28 2 True Faith (Original 12" Mix) 5:51 3 Crystal (Lee Coombs Vocal Mix) 8:45 not sure what this is about New Order - I'll Stay With You (CDr, Promo) Label: Warner Music Denmark – none Format: CDr, Promo Country: Denmark Released: 2013 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Synth-pop, Indie Rock Tracklist 1 I'll Stay With You (Original) 4:24 Total Time: 4:24 Companies, etc. Record Company – Warner Music Group Record Company – Warner Music Denmark A/S Notes Professionally manufactured CDr in a slim PVC sleeve. The colour sticker on the sleeve reads: "Taget fra albummet "Lost Sirens" som udkom 14. januar 2013." later -1

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Mr. Disco		#369 Posted : 20 October 2021 04:52:41(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1452 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		This BLT promo came to my attention: https://www.discogs.com/...er-Bizarre-Love-Triangle According to Discogs, it's an official test pressing from 1995. After the '94 US CD-single re-release in order to promote (the best of?) NewOrder, which US edition only came out in '95? A mate sent me a very good rip of the Shep's 12" alternate mix, which is pretty bad. Kind of a sloppy Razormaid re-edit of the regular remix. PM me if you're interested.
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negative1		#370 Posted : 20 October 2021 05:14:07(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco This BLT promo came to my attention: https://www.discogs.com/...er-Bizarre-Love-Triangle According to Discogs, it's an official test pressing from 1995. After the '94 US CD-single re-release in order to promote (the best of?) NewOrder, which US edition only came out in '95? A mate sent me a very good rip of the Shep's 12" alternate mix, which is pretty bad. Kind of a sloppy Razormaid re-edit of the regular remix. PM me if you're interested. i have that on this cheaper 12 inch: https://www.discogs.com/...er-Bizarre-Love-Triangle later -1

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Mr. Disco		#371 Posted : 20 October 2021 05:45:22(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1452 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		Originally Posted by: negative1 i have that on this cheaper 12 inch: https://www.discogs.com/...er-Bizarre-Love-Triangle later -1 Oh... I've missed it due to the "alternate" mix names.
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Michael Monkhouse		#372 Posted : 20 October 2021 06:29:55(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		Razormaid is horrible and Shep's 12" loses Hooky, so maybe not. I know I've said this before, but Stephen Hague's take would be purrfick if he hadn't cut out half the second instrumental break. Duh!

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negative1		#373 Posted : 31 October 2021 19:24:08(UTC)
Rank: Member with Substance Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,184 Thanks: 926 times Was thanked: 1772 time(s) in 1186 post(s)		just got the Australian Perfect Kiss, the cover has different ink color for the text, and the opening is on the left side for some reason: https://www.discogs.com/...w-Order-The-Perfect-Kiss New Order – The Perfect Kiss Label: Factory Records Australasia – FAC 123 Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM Country: Australia Released: May 1985 Genre: Electronic Style: Synth-pop Tracklist A The Perfect Kiss 8:46 B1 The Kiss Of Death 7:00 B2 Perfect Pit 1:24 Total Time: 17:10 later -1 Edited by user 31 October 2021 19:25:44(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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Mr. Disco		#374 Posted : 22 November 2021 12:56:03(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Republic Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Brazil Thanks: 1452 times Was thanked: 506 time(s) in 240 post(s)		Regarding TPK, I've had this promo for many years now... tried to rip it like 18+ years ago, and the results were beyond embarrassing. If anyone has a decent rip of this edit of Kiss of Death, I'd appreciate it a lot
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perspexorange		#375 Posted : 22 November 2021 14:44:07(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,376 Location: Salop Thanks: 504 times Was thanked: 3827 time(s) in 2375 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mr. Disco Regarding TPK, I've had this promo for many years now... tried to rip it like 18+ years ago, and the results were beyond embarrassing. If anyone has a decent rip of this edit of Kiss of Death, I'd appreciate it a lot PM sent.

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