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#26 Posted : 06 July 2021 13:53:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
in Hooky's New Order book.... He...mentions that from Republic onwards, the group agreed to Bernard receiving a bigger share of New Order publishing as he was taking on the lyric writing himself.

I suspect he took on more than the lyric writing. We know that Crystal and Unlearn This Hatred were originaly written for (or given to) other projects by Bernard, then re-tooled as NO songs. The credits on the NO recordings will list the whole band as writers, but in truth the whole band didn't write those songs. I suspect even back in the days when the "fab four" split royaties 25% each, Bernard was probably the chief songwriter. (U2 work a bit like this I beleive. Sometimes when Bono & Edge release a U2 song not recorded by the whole band -eg a session version/acoustic version- the songwriters will just be Bono/Edge, but on the band version they'll give a writing credit to the other 2 as well) .

Bear in mind also that when Hooky "went legal" it was against Bernard Sumner & others.


Originally Posted by: NotAMod Go to Quoted Post

The Factory stuff maybe not, but I imagine the band (inc. Hooky?) get some sort of percentage of the JD/NO related items on sale here.


Am inclined to agree with this. Officially licenced NO stuff always has the New Order copyright thing.

Incidentally when Hooky was doing his Instagram chats last summer he mentioned an officially licenced Hacienda T-shirt avilable form BooHoo.com.
I guess since he bought the name at the liquidation of the club he gets any £ from licenced Haci stuff.
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ROCKET MICK on 11/07/2021(UTC)
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#27 Posted : 06 July 2021 22:05:01(UTC)
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They really are beyond deluded if they think they're worth that kinda money. Some good singles, nearly all in the 80s, and a refreshingly fuck you stance, which they haven't actually exhibited since 1897, but we're hardly talking a Lennon manuscript or a Hendrix plectrum. Pricks.
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ROCKET MICK on 11/07/2021(UTC)
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#28 Posted : 07 July 2021 07:11:38(UTC)
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Hey, at least we don't have to put up with Hooky/Barney pies and hot sauce, like Killing Joke fans do:

https://allabouttherock....ies-the-joker-hot-sauce/

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ROCKET MICK on 11/07/2021(UTC)
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#29 Posted : 22 July 2021 08:51:45(UTC)
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I heard they lose 2p on every £100 cushion they sell

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#30 Posted : 23 July 2021 09:19:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post


Some great bargains to be had there.

I'm in.

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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#31 Posted : 23 July 2021 10:19:15(UTC)
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Mind you, pop stars earn far too much. Paul McCartney makes 275,000 a day. I don't even make that in a week. (Copyright Paul Merton)
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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#32 Posted : 23 July 2021 11:21:20(UTC)
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#33 Posted : 24 July 2021 05:09:36(UTC)
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Selfridges and who ever else is behind this lark have calculated that there are people out there who will buy any old bit of tat once it's got a Factory or NO logo stamped on it.

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ROCKET MICK on 09/08/2021(UTC)
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#34 Posted : 24 July 2021 05:46:06(UTC)
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Yes. These people are gullible fucking cunts. What the fuck did factory do apart from the occasional hit and a bit of personality? I actually loled when i Read Tony Wlison's 'We made HISTORY, not money'... Yeah, the Declaration of Independence, the Second World War and Crispy fucking Ambulance. Don't fucking fall for it.
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