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Debaser		#1 Posted : 24 April 2021 03:33:22(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,060 Location: here n there Thanks: 486 times Was thanked: 3024 time(s) in 2080 post(s)		No I haven't been hacked. I guess I could have just used the NO Spotting thread, but I really wanted to make the above pronouncement. In April. And if someone can start a thread about 5 Seconds of Summer's "Teeth" getting a NO writing credit, then y'know... I was looking through songs that aren't obviously by NO/JD but still give them writing credits, and I found...a unicorn! We know about Rhianna's Shut Up And Drive giving NO a credit due to the use of BM chords, and tangentially we know about the above mentioned "teeth" that appears to have no actual NO in it. But do we know about the Christmas Unicorn with these writing credits? SUMNER BERNARD (GB 2), Composer/Author Code IPI : 122127621 VID MORRIS STEPHEN PAUL DA, Composer/Author Code IPI : 46904767 Ian CURTIS, Composer/Author Code IPI : 46900387 HOOK PETER, Composer/Author Code IPI : 46902773 Sufjan STEVENS, Composer/Author Here's Sufjan How about: All We Want Baby Is Everything SUMNER BERNARD (GB 2), Composer/Author Gillian Lesley GILBERT, Composer/Author VID MORRIS STEPHEN PAUL DA, Composer/Author HOOK PETER, Composer/Author Daniel BOECKNER, Composer/Author Alexei PERRY, Composer/Author UNIVERSAL MUSIC PUBLISHING, Sub-Publisher THIRD SIDE MUSIC INC, Publisher VITALTURN CO LTD, Publisher It's The Handsome Furs Temptation is apparently(?) the track getting the partial credit. Pitchfork article Would you like to Give Yourself A Try? SUMNER BERNARD (GB 2), Composer/Author Adam Brian Thomas HANN, Composer/Author Ross Stewart MACDONALD, Composer/Author George Bedford DANIEL, Composer/Author Matthew Timothy HEALY, Composer/Author Ian CURTIS, Composer/Author HOOK PETER, Composer/Author VID MORRIS STEPHEN PAUL DA, Composer/Author UNIVERSAL MUSIC PUBLISHING, Sub-Publisher Here's The 1975 (I want to punch them) Disorder apparently. And finally, Phatt Bass 2016 Composer/Author : SUMNER BERNARD (GB 2), VID MORRIS STEPHEN PAUL DA, HOOK PETER, Gillian Lesley GILBERT DOHR JUERGEN, KRAMER GUIDO, DIECKMANN OLAF, GOEDICKE OLIVER, MONTESANO GINO, BAKER ARTHUR HENRY, BIERBRODT DENNIS Yes it's another go at the Pump Panel Reconstruction of Confusion, with zero original Confusion in it. This is, I would suggest marginally better than Operation Blade (not hard really). The Wolfpack BTW, does anyone know about these tracks credited purely to Bernard (and BTW Bernard often comes up as Dickin rather than Sumner on stuff as "recent" as the Get Ready album and WFTSC). SIDE WINDER Composer/Author : DICKIN BERNARD I CAN T QUIT YA Composer/Author : DICKIN BERNARD Performer : NEW ORDER (GROUP) 1975 Composer/Author : DICKIN BERNARD Performer : NEW ORDER (GROUP) LUCKY STRIKE Composer/Author : DICKIN BERNARD Performer : NEW ORDER (GROUP) DECLARATION OF WAR Composer/Author : DICKIN BERNARD Performer : NEW ORDER (GROUP) HOLLYWOOD HOLIDAYS Composer/Author : DICKIN BERNARD Performer : NEW ORDER (GROUP) ROCK N ROLL SOLDIERS Composer/Author : DICKIN BERNARD Performer : NEW ORDER (GROUP) Also please forgive my Joy Division ignorance: AUX LAGUEURS D APOLLON Composer/Author : VID MORRIS STEPHEN PAUL DA, Ian CURTIS, HOOK PETER, DICKIN BERNARD

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50poundnote		#2 Posted : 24 April 2021 07:23:40(UTC)
Rank: Member of the Movement Groups: Registered Joined: 29/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 516 Thanks: 31 times Was thanked: 935 time(s) in 517 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Debaser BTW, does anyone know about these tracks credited purely to Bernard (and BTW Bernard often comes up as Dickin rather than Sumner Dicken? If those are actual credits, that's now how he spelled his name at the time. There's an "E" in it (har har).
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Andy		#3 Posted : 24 April 2021 09:35:14(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,126 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1439 times Was thanked: 3074 time(s) in 2145 post(s)		Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Originally Posted by: Debaser BTW, does anyone know about these tracks credited purely to Bernard (and BTW Bernard often comes up as Dickin rather than Sumner Dicken? If those are actual credits, that's now how he spelled his name at the time. There's an "E" in it (har har). I believe Dickin is actually correct. He went by his mother's name Sumner originally but switched to his stepfather's name when his mother married Jimmy Dickin.
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Andy		#4 Posted : 24 April 2021 09:44:38(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 24/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,126 Location: Seaside, California Thanks: 1439 times Was thanked: 3074 time(s) in 2145 post(s)		There's a similar situation with Hooky: He was born Peter Woodhead but took Hook from his stepfather when his mom remarried. Imagine if that hadn't happened - we might be referring to him as Woody! Edited by user 24 April 2021 09:45:17(UTC) \| Reason: typo
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Debaser		#5 Posted : 24 April 2021 12:31:06(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,060 Location: here n there Thanks: 486 times Was thanked: 3024 time(s) in 2080 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Andy I believe Dickin is actually correct. Me too Originally Posted by: Andy There's a similar situation with Hooky: He was born Peter Woodhead but took Hook from his stepfather when his mom remarried. Imagine if that hadn't happened - we might be referring to him as Woody! Early New Order: Woody Dick in Morris.

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perspexorange		#6 Posted : 25 April 2021 00:45:59(UTC)
Rank: Dead Soul Groups: Registered Joined: 20/10/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,254 Location: Salop Thanks: 458 times Was thanked: 3458 time(s) in 2253 post(s)		I’ve read somewhere that his school friends took the piss out of him for the name ‘Dickin’ so decided to spell it ‘Dicken’, which he considered less comical. I can’t really see much difference myself, and I guess he didn’t in the end, with him changing it completely to ‘Albrecht’.

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Michael Monkhouse		#7 Posted : 25 April 2021 02:25:25(UTC)
Rank: Guilty Partner Groups: Registered Joined: 03/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,998 Location: Rome Thanks: 61 times Was thanked: 2410 time(s) in 2004 post(s)		I guess he could have had a double barrelled name, like Monkhouse-Chisholm. I've seen him credited as Summer, Albrecht and Dickin. According to Smash Hits, so it must be true, it's cos he is a tad batty about the brain. What do you call an American who bonks his kid? Dickinson. Slightly off topic, but I remember when my ex Betty Boo sampled Lady Madonna in On My Way and included Lennon-McCartney in the credits. What an honour. Edited by user 25 April 2021 02:27:18(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

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