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Cranelane  
#1 Posted : 10 January 2021 13:17:39(UTC)
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He is bringing the music of Joy Division to a new audience I guess.



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#2 Posted : 10 January 2021 14:13:11(UTC)
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Hmm, not for me I'm afraid: I'm not a fan of James Blake and listening to that, beyond the lyrics I can't hear much there that would make one of his fans decide they must investigate further and buy loads of Joy Division material (and maybe even New Order after that), He's basically wiped any resemblance of the original music and done a basic sort of plink plonk backing track and dumped his 'soulful' vocals on top (the 'people like you' bit is laughable): I'll file this along with Paul Youngs version of LWTUA and George Michaels TF (ie in the bin)
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#3 Posted : 10 January 2021 15:18:36(UTC)
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It’s not for me either.

But nothing, nothing is in the same league as Young’s cover of LWTUA. It’s so terrible, it’s almost brilliant. Sunshine and daisies.
Every time I hear it, I end up pissing myself laughing.
How can one artist just so completely ‘miss’ the message of a song?
Bless.

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#4 Posted : 10 January 2021 18:38:23(UTC)
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Not a patch on Russ Abbot’s version.
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#5 Posted : 10 January 2021 22:51:45(UTC)
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The Last opportunity I had to see New Order live was at the Music Tastes Good festival in Long Beach, CA (a combination music and food fest). New Order headlined the first night, James Blake the second. The primary reason I attended the 2nd night was for The Church, but hung around to check out Blake as I was surprised that he was a headliner. His set was so tedious, I left after 3 tracks. I actually found the co-headliner, Janelle Monae, at the opposite end of the park, far more talented and compelling.
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#6 Posted : 11 January 2021 01:00:08(UTC)
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Oh, I’ve only just realised it’s James Blake not James Blunt.I had James Blunt in my head after listening to it. I don’t know, what’s the difference between James Blake and James Blunt? Sound the same to me.
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#7 Posted : 11 January 2021 01:58:43(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 11 January 2021 11:44:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
The primary reason I attended the 2nd night was for The Church..


Great band. Would like to see them.

My only hesitation is that they're firmly in 'Kraftwerk' territory now, with only one original member remaining in the band.
It kind of puts me off a little.



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#9 Posted : 11 January 2021 18:53:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
The primary reason I attended the 2nd night was for The Church..


Great band. Would like to see them.

My only hesitation is that they're firmly in 'Kraftwerk' territory now, with only one original member remaining in the band.
It kind of puts me off a little.





True enough but I don't know of any working musician as prolific, and with such a high level of quality control as Steve Kilbey. His work as 'Kilbey Kennedy' I rate as highly as his best work in The Church.


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#10 Posted : 11 January 2021 22:36:52(UTC)
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The primary reason I attended the 2nd night was for The Church..


Great band. Would like to see them.

My only hesitation is that they're firmly in 'Kraftwerk' territory now, with only one original member remaining in the band.
It kind of puts me off a little.





True enough but I don't know of any working musician as prolific, and with such a high level of quality control as Steve Kilbey. His work as 'Kilbey Kennedy' I rate as highly as his best work in The Church.




Have grown to appreciate Kilbey's work outside The Church lately. His latest solo LP, Eleven Women, is really good. I was very disappointed when Marty Wilson-Piper left, the first Church LP without him was hit and miss. But their latest album, Man Woman Life Death Infinity (back in 2017, wow!) is their best in decades. Check out Another Century, For King Knife, Undersea, Something Out There is Wrong...great stuff.

Their set at that 2018 festival I mentioned was mostly the 1988 Starfish LP, for its 30th anniversary.

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#11 Posted : 12 January 2021 08:52:13(UTC)
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I think James Blake would generally be seen to be more credible than Blunt.

I wonder how many people on the forum like any cover of a JD/NO track as much the original.

I don't care whether or not this cover gets people into JD.

I think it's alright.

Then again I quite like Nezzer's version of Disorder. Which will hopefully annoy one or two people reading this.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/01/2021(UTC)
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#12 Posted : 12 January 2021 12:33:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
I think James Blake would generally be seen to be more credible than Blunt.

I wonder how many people on the forum like any cover of a JD/NO track as much the original.

I don't care whether or not this cover gets people into JD.

I think it's alright.

Then again I quite like Nezzer's version of Disorder. Which will hopefully annoy one or two people reading this.





I really like the Nezzer's version and over couple of last months being home I discovered some really nice JD covers which I like

Decades by Horrible Andy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmHmwmBLfUw

Dead Souls by Pins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsAUL7ZqH8o

This last one most people will want to kick me out of this group but I kind of Like this version also

Isolation (feat. Corinna Jane)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXsZjO4U0c


Over the last months i made a nice playlist of NO & JD covers playlist, so many great songs on it



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#13 Posted : 12 January 2021 12:44:36(UTC)
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The only cover I think even comes close is Nine Inch Nails' version of Dead Souls.

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#14 Posted : 12 January 2021 13:55:32(UTC)
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I liked Paul Haig’s cover of Atmosphere. Maybe in a minority on that one!
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#15 Posted : 12 January 2021 14:11:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post
I think James Blake would generally be seen to be more credible than Blunt.

I wonder how many people on the forum like any cover of a JD/NO track as much the original.

I don't care whether or not this cover gets people into JD.

I think it's alright.

Then again I quite like Nezzer's version of Disorder. Which will hopefully annoy one or two people reading this.


That version of Disorder isn't bad. The Blake cover is no disgrace but it adds nothing to the song, when his voice goes up an octave I just have to turn it off, it's bearable up to that point.

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#16 Posted : 12 January 2021 19:18:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
I liked Paul Haig’s cover of Atmosphere. Maybe in a minority on that one!


I love that version also. I have been listening to that for years. He did a great job with it.

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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
The only cover I think even comes close is Nine Inch Nails' version of Dead Souls.



"Comes close(r)" is an apt choice of words, it a pretty (hate machine) faithful cover.

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#18 Posted : 23 January 2021 07:03:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Linus Solanki Go to Quoted Post

most people will want to kick me out of this group but I kind of Like this version also

Isolation (feat. Corinna Jane)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXsZjO4U0c


GET OUT!


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Ok, this is quite nice you can come back now. Big Grin
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
I liked Paul Haig’s cover of Atmosphere. Maybe in a minority on that one!



Well this is odd.Hadn't listened to that cover in a long time and instead of looking for the file on my pc i just searched on YouTube.The version that started playing however isn't the one from back in around 2006 and which i think i downloaded from a link in a post on this forum.That 2006 version was from i think a radio interview with Peter Hook in which he chose it .It was more of an uptempo beat and sounded of all people like Rozalla (early 90s UK chart rave female singer) but in a good way.

This version on YouTube appears to be Paul Haig with Outernationale or something? It has some of the sounds of the version i first heard in 2006 but a slower vibe.Still pretty good though. There's also a dub version on YouTube.I can't find on YouTube the 2006 version i've had as a file on my pc for years.

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#20 Posted : 23 January 2021 12:19:58(UTC)
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It just struck me (like a bolt from the blue) that it would be amazing to hear Liz Fraser cover a Joy Division song, perhaps The Eternal or Atmosphere.
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Originally Posted by: Cranelane Go to Quoted Post
It just struck me (like a bolt from the blue) that it would be amazing to hear Liz Fraser cover a Joy Division song, perhaps The Eternal or Atmosphere.


My first reaction to that idea was nah, Liz wouldn’t suit singing a conventional lyric but then, duh, I forgot of course she did the incredible and magical cover of Song To The Siren. Also on This Mortal Coil’s first album she sang a cover of Roy Harper’s song Another Day.
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#22 Posted : 24 January 2021 05:12:25(UTC)
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I liked Paul Haig’s cover of Atmosphere. Maybe in a minority on that one!



Well this is odd.Hadn't listened to that cover in a long time and instead of looking for the file on my pc i just searched on YouTube.The version that started playing however isn't the one from back in around 2006 and which i think i downloaded from a link in a post on this forum.That 2006 version was from i think a radio interview with Peter Hook in which he chose it .It was more of an uptempo beat and sounded of all people like Rozalla (early 90s UK chart rave female singer) but in a good way.

This version on YouTube appears to be Paul Haig with Outernationale or something? It has some of the sounds of the version i first heard in 2006 but a slower vibe.Still pretty good though. There's also a dub version on YouTube.I can't find on YouTube the 2006 version i've had as a file on my pc for years.



I like Paul Haig but not a fan of cover versions in general. Think this was done with Finitribe and PH later said he regretted it. Also Haig could possibly be responsible for for influencing the Sumner 80s haircut (Sandys in Edinburgh!) as I know they worked together with Bemusic.

Any barbers on the forum with a photographic memory? Wink



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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post

I wonder how many people on the forum like any cover of a JD/NO track as much the original.

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State Shirt's cover of The Him I may like even more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7utFuJflS8o
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Originally Posted by: LostSiren Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post

I wonder how many people on the forum like any cover of a JD/NO track as much the original.

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State Shirt's cover of The Him I may like even more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7utFuJflS8o


I really liked this, so thanks for posting.

If I had one criticism though, is that it doesn’t stray too far from the original.
I always feel with covers that I would prefer them to be different, but still capture the essence of the song in question.

When you have a cover that’s so close to the original, I always find myself asking ‘why am I listening to this, when I could be listening to the original?’

But that’s a minor ‘personal’ gripe. The cover in question sounds pretty great.

I also loved the visuals. Not sure if they are the band’s or something they appropriated from elsewhere, but they suited the song and were slightly unsettling (in a good way).
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Go to Quoted Post

I wonder how many people on the forum like any cover of a JD/NO track as much the original.

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State Shirt's cover of The Him I may like even more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7utFuJflS8o


Yes, I first watched that video a few years back. Possibly the only cover of a New Order song I’d go as far as saying it’s better than the original. Great video.
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